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A06555 The English iarreĀ· or disagreement amongst the ministers of great Brittaine, concerning the Kinges supremacy. VVritten in Latin by the Reuerend Father, F. Martinus Becanus of the Society of Iesus, and professour in diuinity. And translated into English by I.W. P.; Dissidium Anglicarum de primatu Regis. English Becanus, Martinus, 1563-1624.; Wilson, John, ca. 1575-ca. 1645? 1612 (1612) STC 1702; ESTC S121050 28,588 66

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primatemque_fw-la confingas_fw-la it_o may_v see●e_v to_o ●avour_n of_o malice_n and_o cry_v out_o upon_o your_o sausines_n when_o as_o you_o feign_v the_o king_n head_n and_o primate_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o m._n burhill_n pag._n 133._o nec_fw-la primatem_fw-la quidem_fw-la omnino_fw-la regem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la dicimus_fw-la multò_fw-la u●rò_fw-la minù●_n primatem_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la neither_o do_v we_o at_o all_o call_v our_o king_n primate_n and_o much_o less_o ecclesiastical_a primate_n etc._n etc._n 3._o ●eere_o hence_o do_v i_o frame_v a_o twofold_a argument_n one_o out_o of_o m._n tookers_n word_n in_o this_o manner_n he_o that_o affirm_v the_o king_n to_o be_v primate_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o sausy_n and_o malicious_a fellow_n but_o m._n salcl●bridge_n affirm_v the_o king_n to_o be_v primate_n of_o the_o church_n ergo_fw-la he_o be_v a_o sausy_n and_o malicious_a fellow_n the_o other_o argument_n i_o frame_v out_o of_o m._n salclebridges_n word_n 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potestatis_fw-la nullis_fw-la antè_fw-la temporibus_fw-la visam_fw-la induit_fw-la henricus_fw-la enim_fw-la rex_fw-la caput_fw-la ipsius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la constituitur_fw-la in_o the_o mean_a while_n to_o wit_n after_o his_o foresaid_a divorce_n a_o council_n be_v hold_v at_o london_n wherein_o the_o church_n of_o ●ngland_n take_v to_o itself_o a_o form_n of_o power_n never_o hear_v of_o before_o for_o that_o king_n henry_n be_v appoint_v head_n of_o the_o same_o church_n etc._n etc._n genebrard_n also_o in_o the_o four_o book_n of_o his_o chronology_n have_v these_o word_n henricus_fw-la anno_fw-la 1534._o in_fw-la publicis_fw-la comitijs_fw-la se_fw-la caput_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la anglicanae_n appellavit_fw-la king_n henry_n in_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 1534._o in_o public_a parliament_n call_v himself_o head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n etc._n etc._n also_o doctor_n sanders_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o schism_n of_o england_n say_v exit_fw-la qua_fw-la dicendi_fw-la formula_fw-la primam_fw-la occasionem_fw-la sumptam_fw-la aiunt_fw-la ut_fw-la rex_fw-la supremum_fw-la caput_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la anglicanae_n diceretur_fw-la by_o which_o manner_n of_o speech_n it_o be_v say_v the_o first_o occasion_n be_v take_v of_o call_v the_o king_n supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o in_o the_o same_o book_n proponebantur_fw-la cis_fw-la nova_fw-la comitiorum_fw-la decreta_fw-la &_o iu●●bantur_fw-la iurciurando_fw-la affirmare_fw-la regim_fw-la supremum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la esse_fw-la caput_fw-la the_o new_a law_n or_o statute_n of_o the_o parliament_n be_v propound_v unto_o they_o to_o wit_n to_o the_o king_n subject_n and_o they_o be_v command_v to_o swear_v that_o the_o king_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n john_n calvin_n in_o like_a manner_n upon_o the_o 7._o chapter_n of_o the_o prophet_n amos_n write_v thus_o qui_fw-la tantopere_fw-la extu●erunt_fw-la h●nricum_fw-la regem_fw-la angliae_fw-la certè_fw-la fucrunt_fw-la homines_fw-la in●en●●derati_fw-la ded●runt_fw-la enim_fw-la illi_fw-la summam_fw-la rerum_fw-la omnium_fw-la petestatem_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la i_o graviter_fw-la semper_fw-la vulneravit_fw-la erant_fw-la en●m_fw-la blasphemi_fw-la cum_fw-la vocarent_fw-la cum_fw-la summum_fw-la caput_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sub_fw-la ●hristo_fw-la those_o who_o so_o great_o do_v extol_v k._n h●n●y_n of_o en●land_n be_v man_n void_a of_o consideration_n for_o they_o give_v unto_o he_o the_o chief_a power_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o this_o point_n do_v ever_o gall_v i_o grievous_o for_o that_o they_o be_v blasphemer_n when_o they_o call_v he_o the_o chief_a head_n of_o the_o church_n under_o christ_n etc._n etc._n 2._o the_o same_o title_n do_v k._n edward_n son_n to_o k._n henry_n and_o his_o successor_n usurp_v as_o it_o may_v be_v see_v by_o his_o letter_n to_o thomas_n cranmer_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n which_o begin_v thus_o edovardus_n dei_fw-la gratia_fw-la angliae_fw-la francia_fw-la &_o hyberniae_fw-la rex_fw-la supremum_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la anglicanae_n &_o hybernicae_n tam_fw-la in_o causis_fw-la spiritalibus_fw-la quam_fw-la temporalibus_fw-la caput_fw-la reverendo_fw-la thomae_fw-la cantuariensi_fw-la archiepiscopo_fw-la salutem_fw-la edward_n by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n king_n of_o england_n france_n and_o ireland_n supreme_a head_n on_o earth_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o ireland_n as_o well_o in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a as_o temporal_a to_o the_o reverend_a thomas_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n greeting_n etc._n etc._n the_o same_o title_n also_o do_v bishop_n cranmer_n give_v unto_o the_o say_a king_n as_o appear_z by_o his_o letter_n write_v to_o other_o bishop_n subject_n unto_o he_o thus_o thomas_n permissione_n divina_fw-la cantuariensis_n archiepiscopus_fw-la per_fw-la illustrissimum_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la principem_fw-la edovardum_fw-la regem_fw-la sextum_fw-la supremum_fw-la in_o 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etc._n and_o doctor_n sanders_n also_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o schism_n of_o england_n say_v thus_o quamprimùm_fw-la visum_fw-la est_fw-la henrici_fw-la octavi_fw-la mortem_fw-la diwlgare_fw-la statim_fw-la edovardus_n henrici_fw-la filius_fw-la nonum_fw-la aetatis_fw-la annum_fw-la agens_fw-la rex_fw-la angliae_fw-la proclamatur_fw-la &_o summum_fw-la ●cclesiae_fw-la anglicanae_n in_fw-la terris_fw-la caput_fw-la proximè_fw-la secundum_fw-la christum_fw-la constituitur_fw-la etc._n
dispute_v of_o the_o first_o be_v of_o assemble_v or_o call_v together_o of_o synod_n the_o second_o of_o enact_v of_o ecclesiastical_a law_n the_o three_o of_o confer_v or_o bestow_v of_o benefice_n the_o four_o of_o create_v &_o depose_v of_o bishop_n the_o five_o be_v about_o excommunication_n the_o six_o and_o last_o be_v about_o the_o decision_n and_o determine_v of_o controversy_n the_o question_n than_o be_v whether_o these_o office_n belong_v to_o the_o king_n primacy_n i_o will_v speak_v a_o word_n of_o each_o in_o order_n 2._o first_o it_o may_v be_v demand_v whether_o the_o king_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o primacy_n may_v of_o his_o own_o authority_n call_v or_o assemble_v together_o synod_n and_o therein_o sit_v as_o chief_a and_o head_n this_o be_v certain_o persuade_v that_o it_o may_v be_v do_v in_o the_o time_n of_o king_n henry_n k._n edward_n and_o queen_n elizabeth_n but_o now_o under_o king_n james_n the_o matter_n be_v call_v into_o question_n m._n salclebridge_n pag._n 121._o affirm_v that_o he_o can_v do_v it_o in_o these_o word_n christiani_n principes_fw-la in_o regnis_fw-la suis_fw-la cum_fw-la laud_fw-la propria_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la synodos_fw-la convocarunt_fw-la constitutiones_fw-la condiderunt_fw-la causas_fw-la audierunt_fw-la &_o cognoverunt_fw-la christian_n prince_n have_v with_o great_a praise_n assemble_v synod_n by_o their_o own_o authority_n in_o their_o kingdom_n have_v make_v constitution_n hear_v and_o examine_v cause_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o pag._n 146._o rex_fw-la angliae_fw-la potest_fw-la synodos_fw-la indi●●re_fw-la omnium_fw-la ordinum_fw-la oecumeni●as_fw-la &_o in_o ijsdem_fw-la praesidere_fw-la the_o king_n of_o ●ngland_n say_v he_o may_v assemble_v general_n counsel_n of_o all_o order_n or_o degree_n and_o therein_o sit_v as_o precedent_n or_o chief_a etc._n etc._n and_o pag._n 155._o he_o say_v in_o like_a manner_n reges_fw-la angliae_fw-la suprema_fw-la sua_fw-la authoritate_fw-la de_fw-la jure_fw-la synodos_fw-la convocarunt_fw-la the_o king_n of_o ●ngland_n have_v by_o th●ir_n own_o supreme_a authority_n and_o by_o ●●ght_n assemble_v synod_n etc._n etc._n 3_o now_o m_n to●ker_n in_o this_o point_n be_v very_o variable_a one_o while_o contradict_v himself_o another_o while_o other_o and_o this_o be_v manifest_a out_o of_o the_o diverse_a testimony_n he_o produce_v the_o first_o be_v pag._n 37._o where_o he_o have_v these_o word_n a_o quibus_fw-la magis_fw-la aequum_fw-la est_fw-la indici_fw-la conciliar_a quam_fw-la ab_fw-la illish_a penes_fw-la quos_fw-la semper_fw-la ●uit_fw-la authoritas_fw-la ●a_n congregandi_fw-la cum_fw-la autem_fw-la communit●r_fw-la triplex_fw-la pon●_n soleat_fw-la concilium_fw-la generale_fw-mi provinciale_a &_o dioec●sanum_n concilium_fw-la g●n●rale_fw-la solius_fw-la papae_fw-la iussu_fw-la celebrari_fw-la vultis_fw-la sed_fw-la neque_fw-la illud_fw-la nisi_fw-la ab_fw-la imp●ratoribus_fw-la &_o regibus_fw-la simul_fw-la consentient●bus_fw-la hodie_fw-la indici_fw-la debet_fw-la provinciale_a à_fw-fr metropolita●o_n cum_fw-la suis_fw-la suffragancis_n dioecesanum_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la cum_fw-la curatis●_n r●ctoribus_fw-la &_o clericis_fw-la dioeceseos_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o who_o be_v it_o more_o fit_a that_o counsel_n shall_v be_v assemble_v then_o by_o those_o in_o who_o power_n have_v always_o authority_n be_v to_o call_v they_o together_o for_o whereas_o common_o there_o be_v 3._o sort_n of_o counsel_n general_n provincial_a &_o of_o a_o particular_a diocese_n the_o general_n council_n you_o will_v have_v to_o be_v celebrate_v only_o by_o commandment_n of_o the_o pope_n but_o yet_o not_o so_o neither_o now_o a_o day_n unless_o emperor_n &_o king_n do_v agree_v thereunto_o also_o a_o provincial_a coun●ell_n be_v to_o be_v assemble_v by_o the_o metropolitan_a and_o his_o suffragans_n th●t_o of_o the_o diocese_n by_o the_o bishop_n thereof_o together_o with_o the_o curate_n recto●s_n and_o clerk_n of_o ●he_n same_o bishopric_n etc._n etc._n out_o of_o which_o testimony_n we_o may_v gat●er_v that_o the_o k._n of_o england_n can_v assemble_v a_o council_n of_o his_o own_o authority_n not_o a_o general_n because_o that_o belong_v to_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o king_n and_o emperor_n not_o a_o provincial_n because_o that_o pertain_v to_o the_o metropolitan_a not_o of_o the_o diocese_n because_o that_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n thereof_o what_o then_o i_o pray_v you_o be_v leave_v unto_o the_o king_n 4._o another_o testimony_n hereof_o be_v out_o of_o the_o same_o m._n ●ooker_o pag._n 41._o in_o these_o wor●s_n abundè_fw-la liquet_fw-la ex_fw-la concilijs_fw-la ipsis_fw-la &_o historia_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la ●r●uincial●a_fw-la concilia_fw-la &_o nationalia_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatoribus_fw-la a●_n regibus_fw-la fuisse_fw-la congregata_fw-la it_o be_v abundant_o manifest_a out_o of_o the_o counsel'_v themselves_o and_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n that_o provincial_a and_o national_n counsel_n have_v be_v assemble_v by_o emperor_n and_o king_n etc._n etc._n this_o now_o be_v plain_o repugnant_a to_o his_o former_a testimony_n for_o there_o he_o affirm_v that_o provincial_a counsel_n be_v to_o be_v assemble_v by_o the_o metropolitan_o thereof_o here_o he_o say_v ●hat_n they_o must_v be_v assemble_v by_o king_n and_o emperor_n there_o be_v distinguish_v o●ly_o a_o threefould_a councell●_n to_o wit_n general_n provinciall●●_n ●_z and_o that_o of_o the_o diocese_n here_o now_o be_v add_v a_o four●h_n to_o wit_n national_n 5._o his_o three_o testimony_n be_v set_v down_o pag._n 42._o where_o he_o propo●eth_v this_o question_n quo_fw-la igitur_fw-la jure_fw-la tantam_fw-la sibi_fw-la potestat●m_fw-la arrogat_fw-la pontif●x_fw-la solus_fw-la num_fw-la divino_fw-la ●y_a what_o right_o then_o i_o pray_v you_o do_v the_o pope_n challenge_v unto_o himself_o alone_o so_o great_a power_n do_v he_o do_v it_o by_o divine_a right_n etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o add_v erat_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la omnium_fw-la non_fw-la unius_fw-la tant●mmodo_fw-la &_o indicere_fw-la concilium_fw-la &_o statuere_fw-la cum_fw-la verborum_fw-la solennitate_fw-la visum_fw-la est_fw-la spiritui_fw-la sancto_fw-la &_o nobis_fw-la &c._n &c._n it_o belong_v to_o all_o the_o apostle_n not_o to_o one_o alone_a to_o assemble_v a_o council_n and_o with_o solemnity_n of_o word_n to_o ordain_v it_o seem_v good_a unto_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o we_o etc._n etc._n as_o if_o he_o will_v say_v that_o as_o by_o divine_a right_n not_o s._n pet●r_o alone_o but_o all_o the_o apostle_n together_o with_o equal_a power_n do_v assemble_v the_o fi●st_a council_n at_o jerusalem_n &_o therein_o decree_v that_o law_n about_o eat_v of_o blood_n and_o strangle_a meat_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n by_o divine_a right_n not_o the_o pope_n alone_o but_o all_o bishop_n with_o equal_a power_n must_v assemble_v counsel_n and_o decree_v ecclesiastical_a law_n sure_o if_o it_o be_v so_o then_o without_o doubt_n it_o follow_v that_o the_o power_n to_o call_v or_o assemble_v counsel_n do_v not_o belong_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n to_o secular_a king_n and_o prince_n but_o to_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n etc._n etc._n 6._o his_o four_o testimony_n be_v pag._n 63._o where_o he_o say_v mixtum_fw-la aut●m_fw-la ius_fw-la &_o r●suit●ns_fw-la ●x_fw-la ut●oque_fw-la &_o jure_fw-la regio_fw-la &_o episcopali_fw-la est_fw-la legum_n sanctio_fw-la &_o synodorum_n indictio_fw-la &_o praes●dendi_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la praer●gatiu●_n &_o controu●rs●arun_v decisio_fw-la aliorumque_fw-la actuum_fw-la qui_fw-la his_fw-la finitimi_fw-la sunt_fw-la ex●rcitium_fw-la quae_fw-la f●rè_fw-la ab_fw-la origine_fw-la prima●us_fw-la r●gij_fw-la desc●ndunt_fw-la &_o communicantur_fw-la sac●r●oti●u_fw-la &c_n &c_n the_o decre_v or_o enact_v of_o law_n the_o assemble_v of_o synod_n &_o prerogative_n of_o ●it●ing_v therein_o as_o chief_a or_o head_n as_o also_o the_o exercise_n of_o all_o other_o office_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v a_o certain_a mix_v right_o proceed_v from_o both_o kingly_a and_o episcopal_a power_n which_o thing_n do_v in_o a_o manner_n come_v down_o or_o descend_v from_o the_o origin_n of_o the_o king_n primacy_n and_o be_v communicate_v or_o in_o part_v unto_o priest_n etc._n etc._n this_o now_o again_o as_o you_o see_v be_v contrary_a to_o that_o which_o he_o say_v next_o before_o for_o there_o he_o will_v needs_o have_v the_o assembly_n of_o synod_n or_o counsel_n to_o belong_v by_o divine_a right_n to_o the_o apostle_n here_o forsooth_o he_o will_v have_v the_o same_o chief_o to_o belong_v to_o king_n and_o from_o they_o to_o be_v derive_v unto_o bishop_n these_o thing_n do_v not_o agree_v one_o with_o another_o vii_o question_n whether_o the_o king_n can_v enact_v ecclesiastical_a law_n or_o no_o 1._o it_o be_v clear_a that_o k._n henry_n the_o 8._o do_v aswell_o by_o himself_o as_o by_o his_o vicar_n general_n cromwell_n enact_v ecclesiastical_a law_n for_o so_o say_v doctor_n sanders_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o schism_n of_o england_n his_o di●bus_fw-la vigilantissimus_fw-la hic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la pastor_n henri●us_fw-la quo_fw-la in_o posterum_fw-la sciretur_fw-la quae_fw-la cui_fw-la rite_n nupta_fw-la esset_fw-la legem_fw-la ediderat_fw-la perpetuam_fw-la de_fw-la nuptijs_fw-la comitior●m_fw-la etiam_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la ●onfirmatam_fw-la qua_fw-la
2._o the_o late_a part_n of_o the_o former_a point_n affirm_v m●_n burhill_n pag._n 137._o when_o he_o say_v quod_fw-la ambrosio_n licuit_fw-la in_o theodosium_n idem_fw-la &_o alijs_fw-la in_o regem_fw-la simili_fw-la de_fw-la causa_fw-la liceat_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o ambrose_n to_o proceed_v against_o theodosius_n so_o be_v it_o lawful_a also_o for_o other_o to_o proceed_v against_o the_o king_n in_o the_o like_a cause_n etc._n etc._n to_o wit_n he_o will_v say_v as_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o s._n ambrose_n be_v a_o bishop_n to_o excommunicate_a theodosius_n the_o emperor_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n be_v it_o lawful_a for_o our_o bishop_n of_o england_n to_o excomunicate_v king_n james_n if_o he_o offend_v in_o like_a manner_n and_o then_o again_o pag._n 242._o supremus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernator_fw-la potest_fw-la eijci_fw-la ex_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la the_o supreme_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n the_o king_n may_v be_v cast_v forth_o of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o pag._n 267._o rex_fw-la etsi_fw-la iustissimè_fw-la excommunicatus_fw-la non_fw-la amittit_fw-la primatum_fw-la the_o king_n although_o he_o shall_v be_v most_o just_o excommunicate_v yet_o he_o do_v not_o loose_v his_o primacy_n etc._n etc._n 3._o now_o i_o do_v not_o see_v how_o these_o thing_n can_v possible_o hang_v together_o or_o agree_v with_o those_o which_o hitherto_o before_o have_v be_v attribute_v to_o the_o king_n for_o unto_o he_o be_v attribute_v that_o he_o be_v primate_n and_o the_o supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o he_o be_v above_o all_o person_n aswell_o ecclesiastical_a as_o temporal_a in_o his_o kingdom_n that_o he_o have_v supreme_a most_o ample_a and_o full_a jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a no_o less_o than_o political_a and_o temporal_a and_o notwithstanding_o all_o this_o be_v so_o great_a a_o person_n yet_o can_v he_o not_o excommunicate_v any_o one_o of_o his_o subject_n either_o laicke_n or_o churchman_n although_o never_o so_o rebellious_a and_o obstinate_a nay_o although_o he_o be_v so_o great_a as_o he_o be_v he_o may_v nevertheless_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o his_o subject_n &_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n whereof_o he_o be_v supreme_a head_n i_o can_v understand_v this_o mystery_n 4._o hereunto_o will_v i_o add_v 3._o argument_n more_o which_o will_v increase_v the_o difficulty_n the_o first_o be_v he_o that_o have_v supreme_a most_o ample_a and_o most_o full_a jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a in_o any_o kingdom_n may_v exercise_v all_o the_o action_n &_o office_n that_o belong_v unto_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a of_o that_o kingdom_n but_o now_o the_o king_n have_v supreme_a most_o ample_a and_o most_o full_a jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n as_o m._n tooker_n and_o m._n salclebridg_n do_v confess_v ergo_fw-la he_o may_v exerci●e_v all_o office_n belong_v jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n ergo_fw-la he_o may_v also_o excommunicate_v for_o that_o excommunication_n which_o be_v denounce_v by_o sentence_n be_v a_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n or_o else_o contrariwise_o if_o you_o will_v thus_o he_o that_o can_v exercise_v all_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o any_o kingdom_n have_v not_o supreme_a most_o ample_a &_o most_o full_a jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a in_o that_o kingdom_n but_o the_o king_n of_o england_n can_v exercise_v 〈…〉_z of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o his_o kingdo●e_n because_o he_o can_v excommunicate_v any_o man_n 〈…〉_z not_o supreme_a most_o ample_a and_o most_o 〈…〉_z ●●●l●siasticall_a in_o his_o kingdom_n 5._o the_o second_o argument_n be_v this_o he_o that_o give_v to_o another_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v without_o doubt_n have_v power_n himself_o to_o excommunicate_v b●cause_fw-mi no_o man_n can_v give_v to_o another_o that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o himself_o but_o the_o king_n of_o england_n give_v power_n to_o his_o bishop_n to_o excommunicate_v ergo_fw-la h●_n have_v power_n to_o excommunicate_v the_o minor_a be_v prove_v out_o of_o m._n tooker_n pag._n 304._o where_o he_o affirm_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o england_n do_v receive_v all_o their_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o exterior_a court_n from_o the_o king_n but_o now_o power_n to_o excommunicate_a belong_v to_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o exterior_a court_n a●_n the_o chaplain_n pag._n 41._o and_o m._n tooker_n pag._n 305._o express_o teach_v we_o say_v rex_fw-la habet_fw-la omnem_fw-la iurisdictionem_fw-la spiritualem_fw-la in_o foro_fw-la exteriori_fw-la exceptis_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la censuris_fw-la the_o king_n have_v all_o jurisdiction_n spiritual_a in_o the_o exterior_a court_n except_v certain_a censure_n but_o now_o h●_n except_v excommunication_n wherein_o you_o see_v be_v to_o be_v note_v again_o a_o contradiction_n in_o m._n tooker_n for_o that_o he_o refer_v censure_n among_o which_o excommunication_n be_v one_o to_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o exterior_a court_n true_a indeed_o bu●_n yet_o he_o adjoin_v two_o other_o thing_n that_o be_v contradictory_n the_o first_o that_o the_o king_n can_v give_v unto_o bishop_n all_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o exterior_a court_n and_o th●_n second_o that_o the_o king_n have_v not_o all_o jurisdiction_n o●_n the_o exterior_a court_n 6._o the_o three_o argument_n be_v that_o whosoever_o be_v subject_a to_o another_o in_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o exterior_a court_n have_v not_o supreme_a mo●t_o ample_a and_o full_a jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a of_o the_o exterior_a court●_n but_o the_o king_n be_v subject_a to_o some_o other_o body_n in_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o exterior_a court_n to_o wit_n to_o the_o bishop_n because_o he_o may_v by_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o sentence_n and_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n as_o m._n burhill_n do_v confess_v ergo_fw-la he_o have_v not_o supreme_a most_o ample_a and_o most_o full_a jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a in_o the_o exterior_a court_n etc._n etc._n or_o if_o you_o will_v contrariwise_o thus_o he_o that_o be_v subject_a to_o no_o other_o in_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n can_v by_o any_o man_n be_v excommunicate_v by_o sentence_n but_o the_o king_n now_o if_o he_o have_v supreme_a ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v subject_a to_o no_o other_o in_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a ergo_fw-la he_o can_v by_o any_o other_o be_v excommunicate_v etc._n etc._n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o you_o ma●ke_v well_o that_o these_o thing_n do_v not_o agree_v xi_o question_n whether_o the_o king_n may_v be_v judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n in_o the_o church_n 1._o controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o the_o church_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n some_o be_v about_o faith_n and_o religion_n other_o be_v concern_v ecclesiastical_a affair_n the_o former_a of_o these_o question_n then_o be_v whether_o the_o king_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o primacy_n be_v supreme_a judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n which_o pertain_v unto_o faith_n and_o religion_n m._n salclebridge_n say_v he_o be_v pag._n 163._o in_o these_o word_n sic_fw-la luce_fw-fr clarius_fw-la ●st_fw-la christianos_n principes_fw-la cum_fw-la laud_fw-la controvers●as_fw-la fid●i_fw-la dijudicasse_fw-la &_o dir●misse_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o universalibus_fw-la oct●_n concilijs_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o as_o it_o be_v more_o clear_a than_o the_o sun_n that_o christian_a prince_n with_o praise_n have_v judge_v of_o and_o decide_v controversy_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o in_o eight_o general_n counsel_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v in_o the_o first_o of_o nice_a the_o first_o of_o constantinople_n that_o of_o ephesus_n chalcedon_n the_o second_o three_o &_o four_o of_o constantinople_n and_o the_o second_o of_o nice_a wherein_o diverse_a controversy_n concern_v matter_n of_o faith_n be_v judge_v of_o and_o decide_v especial_o concern_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n against_o the_o heretic_n arius_n of_o the_o divinity_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n against_o macedonius_n of_o one_o person_n of_o christ_n against_o nestorius_n of_o two_o nature_n in_o christ_n against_o eutyches_n and_o dioscorus_n &_o so_o of_o other_o all_o these_o controversy_n say_v m._n salclebrigde_v be_v judge_v of_o and_o decide_v by_o king_n and_o emperor_n 2._o m._n tooker_n now_o he_o affirm_v the_o quite_o contrary_a who_o by_o no_o mean_n will_v have_v king_n or_o emperor_n to_o be_v judge_n of_o controversy_n of_o faith_n for_o thus_o he_o write_v pag._n 3_o of_o his_o book_n olere_fw-la autem_fw-la malitiam_fw-la ac_fw-la clamitare_fw-la audaciam_fw-la tuam_fw-la illud_fw-la vid●tur_fw-la cum_fw-la regem_fw-la caput_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la primatemque_fw-la confingas_fw-la omniumque_fw-la causarum_fw-la &_o controversiarum_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la &_o r●ligionem_fw-la pertinent_a iudicem_fw-la tribuas_fw-la it_o may_v seem_v to_o savour_n of_o malice_n &_o cry_v out_o upon_o you_o sauciness_n when_o as_o you_o feign_v the_o king_n to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o judge_n of_o all_o cause_n and_o controversy_n which_o pertain_v unto_o faith_n and_o religion_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o pag._n 50●●_n rex_n in_o
svo_fw-la regno_fw-la omnibus_fw-la superior_a sit_fw-la nulli_fw-la subditus_fw-la fidei_fw-la iudex_fw-la ne_fw-la appelletur_fw-la quidem_fw-la although_o the_o king_n in_o his_o own_o kingdom_n be_v above_o all_o and_o subject_a to_o none_o yet_o he_o may_v not_o be_v call_v in_o any_o case_n the_o judge_n of_o our_o faith_n etc._n etc._n and_o pag._n 313._o reges_fw-la christiani_n non_fw-la sunt_fw-la ●idei_fw-la ac_fw-la religionis_fw-la judices_fw-la christian_n king_n be_v not_o judge_n of_o faith_n &_o religion_n 3._o so_o as_o if_o now_o in_o england_n there_o shall_v chance_v to_o arise_v a_o dissension_n or_o debate_n concern_v any_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o religion_n as_o for_o example_n concern_v the_o r●all_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n what_o shall_v your_o academic_n here_o do_v to_o who_o shall_v your_o citizen_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o subject_n have_v recourse_n shall_v they_o go_v unto_o the_o king_n as_o judge_v in_o this_o point_n and_o ask_v his_o sentence_n and_o determination_n m._n took●r_n you_o see_v will_v not_o go_v to_o the_o king_n what_o shall_v they_o go_v to_o some_o other_o judge_n then_o but_o m._n salclebridge_n he_o will_v admit_v no_o other_o what_o then_o be_v best_a to_o be_v do_v in_o this_o case_n true_o even_o that_o which_o hitherto_o have_v be_v do_v in_o the_o debate_n of_o the_o king_n supremacy_n to_o wit_n always_o to_o brawl_v and_o jar_n thereabout_o &_o never_o end_v the_o controversy_n and_o what_o be_v the_o cause_n in_o very_a deed_n no_o other_o but_o for_o that_o some_o think_v one_o thing_n some_o another_o and_o they_o can_v or_o rather_o will_v not_o find_v out_o the_o certain_a &_o true_a judge_n who_o can_v decide_v the_o matter_n and_o this_o be_v the_o property_n of_o heretic_n 4._o the_o other_o question_n be_v whether_o the_o king_n be_v judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n that_o concern_v other_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n m._n salclebridge_n say_v that_o he_o be_v pag._n 165._o in_o these_o word_n audin_n controversias_fw-la episcopales_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n dir●mptas_fw-la do_v you_o not_o hear_v sir_n that_o episcopal_a controversy_n have_v be_v decide_v by_o emperor_n etc._n etc._n what_o m._n tooker_n think_v of_o this_o point_n be_v not_o well_o know_v for_o s●me_v time_n he_o affirm_v it_o as_o for_o example_n pag_n 24._o thus_o n●mini_fw-la dubium_fw-la est_fw-la quin_fw-la in_o primitiva_fw-la eccl●sia_n d●_n r●bus_fw-la &_o p●rs●nis_fw-la eccl●siasticis_fw-la ius_fw-la dic●r●nt_fw-la imperator●s_fw-la no_o man_n can_v doubt_v but_o that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n emperor_n judge_v of_o matter_n and_o person_n ecclesiastical_a etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o pag._n 23._o he_o seem_v to_o deny_v it_o non_fw-la est_fw-la princeps_fw-la supra_fw-la res_fw-la sed_fw-la supra_fw-la personas_fw-la the_o prince_n say_v he_o be_v not_o above_o the_o matter_n but_o above_o the_o person_n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o again_o pag._n 49._o rex_fw-la in_o svo_fw-la regno_fw-la supremus_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la supra_fw-la res_fw-la sed_fw-la supra_fw-la homines_fw-la the_o king_n in_o his_o own_o kingdom_n be_v the_o chief_a or_o principal_n but_o yet_o not_o chief_a over_o thing_n but_o over_o man_n and_o thus_o you_o see_v every_o where_o nothing_o but_o jar_v and_o disagreement_n xii_o question_n whence_o &_o by_o what_o title_n have_v the_o king_n his_o primacy_n in_o the_o church_n 1._o the_o sense_n hereof_o be_v whether_o the_o king_n precise_o in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o king_n or_o rather_o in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o christian_a king_n have_v the_o primacy_n of_o the_o church_n the_o former_a part_n of_o this_o point_n m._n tompson_n seem_v to_o approve_v pag._n 78._o where_o he_o say_v omnes_fw-la principes_fw-la ●tiam_fw-la pagani_n obiectiuè_fw-fr habent_fw-la supremam_fw-la potestat●m_fw-la in_o omnes_fw-la omnino_fw-la personas_fw-la suorum_fw-la subditorum_fw-la &_o generatim_fw-la in_o res_fw-la ipsas_fw-la sive_fw-la civiles_fw-la sint_fw-la sive_fw-la sacrae_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o cultu_fw-la divino_fw-la &_o religione_fw-la procuranda_fw-la saltem_fw-la quoad_fw-la modum_fw-la &_o exercitium_fw-la all_o prince_n yea_o even_o those_o that_o be_v pagan_n have_v for_o the_o object_n of_o their_o supreme_a power_n all_o manner_n of_o person_n that_o be_v their_o subject_n and_o general_o all_o thing_n whether_o civil_a or_o sacred_a as_o in_o advance_v god_n honour_n and_o religion_n at_o leastwise_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o belong_v to_o the_o manner_n and_o exercise_n thereof_o etc._n etc._n and_o then_o again_o pag._n 94._o primatus_fw-la est_fw-la regium_fw-la honum_fw-la quod_fw-la censurâ_fw-la tolli_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la nec_fw-la est_fw-la absurdum_fw-la regem_fw-la u●lut_fw-la ethnicum_fw-la esse_fw-la primatem_fw-la e●cl●siae_fw-la primacy_n be_v a_o certain_a kingly_a right_n that_o can_v be_v take_v away_o by_o censure_n nor_o be_v it_o absurd_a that_o a_o king_n as_o he_o be_v a_o ethnic_n be_v primate_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o further_o in_o the_o same_o place_n rex_fw-la ethnicus_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la initiatur_fw-la non_fw-la acquirit_fw-la primatum_fw-la de_fw-la novo_fw-la a_o ethnic_n king_n say_v he_o when_o as_o he_o be_v instruct_v in_o christ_n or_o the_o christian_a faith_n do_v not_o purchase_v thereby_o any_o new_a primacy_n etc._n etc._n to_o who_o consent_v m._n burhill_n pag._n 251._o thus_o rex_fw-la titulo_fw-la r●gis_fw-la temporalis_fw-la potest_fw-la sibi_fw-la vindicare_fw-la &_o assumere_fw-la primatum_fw-la eccl●siae_fw-la a_o king_n by_o the_o title_n of_o a_o temporal_a king_n may_v claim_v unto_o himself_o and_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o pag._n 267._o rex_fw-la etsi_fw-la iustissimè_fw-la excommunicatus_fw-la non_fw-la amittit_fw-la primatum_fw-la in_o rebus_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la a_o king_n although_o he_o be_v most_o just_o excommunicate_v yet_o do_v he_o not_o loose_v his_o primacy_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n etc._n etc._n 2._o my_o lord_n of_o fly_n now_o he_o teach_v we_o a_o quite_o contrary_a lesson_n in_o his_o tortura_fw-la torti_n ●ag_n 39_o where_o he_o aver_v that_o the_o prima●y_n of_o the_o church_n do_v belong_v to_o the_o king_n not_o because_o he_o be_v a_o king_n but_o because_o he_o be_v a_o christian_a king_n and_o therefore_o ethnic_n king_n have_v not_o primacy_n in_o the_o church_n so_o long_o as_o they_o remain_v ethnic_n but_o do_v then_o receive_v the_o say_a primacy_n when_o they_o be_v make_v christian_n and_o loose_v the_o same_o again_o also_o when_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v his_o word_n be_v these_o an_fw-mi non_fw-la regi_fw-la ethnico_fw-la praestare_fw-la fidem_fw-la fas_fw-la imo_fw-la nefas_fw-la non_fw-la praestare_fw-la in_o ethnico_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la vera_fw-la potestas_fw-la temporalis_fw-la idque_fw-la s●ne_fw-la ordine_fw-la ad_fw-la potestatem_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la be_v it_o not_o lawful_a then_o to_o yield_v allegiance_n to_o a_o ethnic_n king_n nay_o rather_o not_o to_o yield_v i●_n be_v a_o wickedness_n for_o in_o a_o ethnic_a there_o be_v true_a temporal_a power_n and_o that_o without_o respect_n to_o ecclesiastical_a powe●_n etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o rex_fw-la quivis_fw-la cum_fw-la de_fw-la ●thnico_fw-la christianus_n fit_a non_fw-la perdit_fw-la terrenum_fw-la ius_fw-la sed_fw-la acquirit_fw-la ius_fw-la nowm_fw-la itid●m_fw-la cum_fw-la de_fw-fr christiano_n fit_a s●cut_fw-la ethnicus_fw-la vigore_fw-la sententiae_fw-la amittit_fw-la nowm_fw-la ius_fw-la quod_fw-la acquisierat_fw-la sed_fw-la retinet_fw-la terrenum_fw-la ius_fw-la in_o temporalibus_fw-la quod_fw-la fuerat_fw-la illi_fw-la proprium_fw-la priusquam_fw-la christianus_n fieret_fw-la etc._n etc._n every_o king_n when_o as_o of_o a_o ethnic_n he_o become_v a_o christian_n do_v not_o loose_v his_o earthly_a right_n but_o get_v a_o new_a right_n and_o so_o in_o like_a manner_n when_o as_o of_o a_o christi●n_n he_o become_v as_o a_o ethnic_n to_o wit_n by_o excommunication_n then_o by_o vigour_n of_o the_o sentence_n he_o lose_v that_o new_a right_n which_o he_o have_v get_v but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o he_o still_o retain_v his_o earthly_a right_n in_o temporal_a thing_n which_o be_v proper_a unto_o he_o before_o he_o become_v a_o christian_a etc._n etc._n 3._o so_o as_o according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o m._n tompson_n and_o m._n burhill_n it_o follow_v that_o all_o king_n whether_o christian_n or_o ethnic_n or_o of_o whatsoever_o other_o sect_n or_o religion_n they_o be_v be_v primate_fw-la of_o the_o church_n in_o their_o own_o kingdom_n therefore_o all_o englishman_n and_o scot_n who_o live_v at_o constantinople_n be_v by_o their_o sentence_n subject_a to_o the_o turk_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n as_o also_o they_o that_o live_v in_o spain_n be_v subject_a to_o king_n philip_n and_o they_o at_o rome_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o so_o to_o other_o in_o other_o place_n what_o now_o shall_v those_o man_n do_v if_o the_o turk_n shall_v command_v they_o to_o follow_v the_o alcoran_n the_o king_n of_o spain_n force_v they_o to_o he●re_a mass_n the_o pope_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o some_o heathen_a king_n perhaps_o compel_v