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B21030 A rejoynder to Mr. Wills, his Vindiciæ wherein the antiquity for believers and novelty of infant baptism is further confirmed : as also his groundless appeal distinctly answer'd, and the forgeries and mistakes boasted of, still found to be his own : with an appeal to his conscience about the same / by H. Danvers. Danvers, Henry, d. 1687. 1675 (1675) Wing D227 48,348 89

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pretend it to be necessary none to have been a Precept of the Gospel as Dr. Taylor Treat p. 105. Whereas the Baptizing of Believers after the Profession of Faith was the general practise of the Age and which appears from the Three Substantial Instances given by me in my Treatise especially in the Reply viz. From 1. the Sayings of Fathers 1st From the Sayings of the Fathers 2. Decrees of Councils 3. Children of Believers unbaptized till aged p. 4 c. 1. From the Sayings of the Fathers and greatest Men of this Century both in (a) Athanasius and Arnobius Affrica (b) Basil Nazianzen Eph. Syrus Epiphanius Asiae and (c) Hillarii Ambrose Jerom Marius Victorinus Europe asserting the necessity of Confession of Faith before Baptism both from Christs Commission Apostles Practise and ends of the Ordinance Which Mr. Wills little opposeth only saith That some of these Doctors were corrupt in other things and so they were all That some of them 3 or 4 asserted Infants Baptism which I deny not to save Dying Children saith one of them viz. Arnobius was spurious from Perkins what then the rest are genuine and that Arnobius on the Psalms was ever Doubted is more than I heard before but if he was it signifies nothing he also Doubts Basils Proof urged by me contra Eunomium which he calls for and which he 'l find l. 2. p 24. viz. Baptism is the Seal of Faith but Faith is the confession of the Diety for First he ought to believe and after to be Sealed with Baptism Doubts whether Athanasius is rightly rendred for which I give you my Authority That what is urged for the necessity of Faith to precede Baptism respected the Adult very true And that some were for the Baptism of Infants who were not capable to make Confession very true also Si aliquid periculi immineat If any danger happned otherwise the necessity thereof from any precept of Christ was not yet enjoyed 2. As to the 3 Councils 2. Decrees of Council viz. the Carthaginian Laodicean and Neocesarian so positively decreeing That Teaching Confession of Faith and free choice ought to precede Baptism He saith That these Decrees respected the Adult very true therefore not Infants That the Council of Carthage and Laodicea Decreed also for Exorcism and giving the Eucharist to dying Persons and Penance c. What then if they were corrupt in other things were they not right here Most of the Fathers were for these Corruptions also And that as to the Neocesarean Council he saith He had as much cause to question whether there was any such Council as I had to question Cyprians Council But herein he will find himself much mistaken whilst the Magdeburghs Cent. 4 c. 9. p 615. give the Bishops Names who sat in this Council the time when it sat viz. Immediately after that of Anoyranus which Helvicus makes to be about the 10 or 12 of Constantine Together with the 14 Canons of which this is one exprest at large and which Dr. Taylor gives us in the Original Greek Determining as he saith that none ought to be Baptized without giving an account of their Faith and desiring the same Whilst Mr. VVills can neither produce from any Ancient and Authentick Authority when or where Cyprians Council sat or what they decreed or determined in that Council but what is pretended from that Epistle which for its corruption is so much questioned whereof more hereafter The 3d. Instance viz. from 10 of the most eminent Men of the Age who were not Baptized till aged 3. From 10 of the most eminent men not Baptized till aged though the Children of Christian Parents viz. Bazel Gregory Nazianzen Ambrose Chrysostom Jerom Austin Nectarius Constantine Valentinian and Theodosius Concerning whom excepting Two of them viz. Constantine and Austin he tells me he will not contend with me but for them he doubts whether their Parents were Christian yet denies not but that Dr. Taylor and Mr. Baxter may have been of my mind whilst some others wirh himself have denyed it which will be of great force with any considering persons for if they had judged it an Ordinance of Christ so many of the Chief of the Age would not so have neglected it In the next place Mr. VVills quarrels with some of my modern Authors who speak the same thing viz. That in these fi●st times none were Baptized without prefession of Faith viz. Strabo Rhevanus Rupertus Boemus Dr. Hammond Mr. Baxter especially questions Rhenanus and Rupertus for Forgery the first I grant you is not proper to prove only such were Baptized that tearm only being not in it as in all the rest but is no Forgery As for Rupertus 't is no Forgery the Treat saith They administred Baptism only to the Children of the Church at Easter the Reply saith only the Cathechumens which as I take it is one and the same as it respects the Children of the Church who it seems were not Baptized till aged But concerning Mr. B. and my abusing him respecting his witness that Adult Baptism was the only necessary Baptism in these times take his own words so lately given us in his More Proofs p. 279. viz. Yet again I will confess That the words of Tertullian and Nazianzen shew Mr. B's full grant against the Antiquity of Infants Baptism that it was long before all were agreed of the very time or of the necessity of Baptizing Infants before any use of reason in case they were like to live to Maturity for I am perswaded that the Apostles and first Ministers were so taken up with the Converting of Infidels Jews and Gentiles that the case of Infant Baptism was so post-poned and taken up as an Appendix to the Baptism of the Adult as that it was thought less needful to give it a particular express mention in the Records and History of the Church Thus Mr. Baxters own Pen has given himself the lye and just rebuke for all his vain jangle about the point of Antiquity for Infants Baptism which now he is thus forc'd to confess the●e is no express mention in the Records and History of the Church for and so also at once spoil'd all Mr. Wills daubery and silly Wranglings about this Point Therefore I hope it will not now be denyed us that the Anabaptists have the Antiquity on their side not only for the first 200 but for the first 400 years there being nothing in the Records of Church History as is manifest and confest to us also to prove any Infant was Baptized as a Church Ordinance or that they ought in point of necessity so to be and therefore there is no cause to question the truth of Dr. Taylors and Dr. Barlows positive assertions in concurrence herewith and in confirmation hereof remark'd to us And it is worthy of consideration that Dr. Barlow in his Apologetical Lr. printed by Mr. Wills doth not gainsay the Reason and Truth of what he formerly