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A56750 The three grand corruptions of the Eucharist in the Church of Rome Viz. the adoration of the Host, communion in one kind, sacrifice of the Mass. In three discourses. Payne, William, 1650-1696.; Payne, William, 1650-1696. Discourse concerning the adoration of the Host. aut; Payne, William, 1650-1696. Discourse of the communion in one kind. aut; Payne, William, 1650-1696. Discourse of the sacrifice of the Mass. aut 1688 (1688) Wing P911A; ESTC R220353 239,325 320

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29._o come_v 11.26_o 27_o 28_o 29._o whosoever_o shall_v eat_v this_o bread_n and_o drink_v this_o cup_n unworthy_o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o and_o so_o let_v he_o eat_v of_o this_o bread_n and_o drink_n of_o this_o cup_n for_o he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v so_o that_o he_o must_v be_v wilful_o blind_a who_o can_v see_v from_o scripture_n what_o be_v essential_a to_o this_o sacrament_n from_o what_o be_v not_o but_o monsieur_n de_fw-fr meaux_n think_v to_o find_v more_o advantage_n in_o the_o other_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o he_o chief_o insist_o upon_o that_o under_o this_o head_n and_o his_o design_n be_v to_o make_v out_o that_o immersion_n or_o plunge_v under_o water_n be_v mean_v and_o signify_v by_o the_o word_n baptise_v in_o which_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o whole_a world_n agree_v 168._o agree_v p._n 168._o and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o only_a manner_n of_o baptise_v we_o read_v of_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o he_o can_v show_v by_o the_o act_n of_o council_n and_o by_o ancient_a ritual_n that_o for_o thirteen_o hundred_o year_n the_o whole_a church_n baptise_a after_o this_o manner_n as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v possible_a 171._o possible_a p._n 171._o if_o it_o be_v so_o than_o it_o seem_v there_o be_v not_o only_a scripture_n but_o tradition_n for_o it_o which_o be_v the_o great_a principle_n he_o take_v so_o much_o pain_n to_o establish_v and_o what_o then_o shall_v we_o have_v to_o say_v to_o the_o anabaptist_n to_o who_o the_o meaux_n seem_v to_o have_v give_v up_o that_o cause_n that_o he_o may_v defend_v the_o other_o of_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n for_o his_o aim_n in_o all_o this_o be_v to_o make_v immersion_n as_o essential_a to_o baptism_n as_o eat_v and_o drink_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o if_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n be_v both_o so_o full_o for_o it_o i_o know_v not_o what_o can_v be_v against_o it_o 299._o p._n 299._o but_o de_fw-fr meaux_n know_v some_o gentleman_n who_o answer_v thing_n 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this_o treatise_n 21._o treatise_n p._n 21._o and_o as_o all_o writer_n against_o the_o anabaptist_n do_v sufficient_o make_v out_o to_o who_o i_o shall_v refer_v the_o reader_n for_o further_a satisfaction_n in_o that_o controversy_n which_o it_o be_v not_o my_o business_n to_o consider_v at_o present_a and_o so_o much_o be_v de_fw-fr meaux_n out_o about_o tradition_n be_v so_o whole_o and_o universal_o for_o baptism_n by_o immersion_n that_o tertullian_n plain_o speak_v of_o it_o by_o intinction_n 6._o intinction_n omne_fw-la praeterea_fw-la cunctationis_fw-la &_o tergiversationis_fw-la erga_fw-la paenitentiam_fw-la vitium_fw-la praesumtio_fw-la intinctionis_fw-la importat_fw-la tertul._n de_fw-fr paenir_fw-fr cap._n 6._o and_o by_o sprinkle_v ib._n sprinkle_v quis_fw-la enim_fw-la tibi_fw-la tam_fw-la infidae_fw-la paenitentiae_fw-la