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A20188 An ansvvere to the last tempest and villanie of the League, vpon the slanders which were imprinted by the same, against the French king Intituled: A declaration of the crimes whereinto the Catholikes do fall, in taking the king of Nauarre his part. Translated out of French into English by T.H. 1593 (1593) STC 662; ESTC S108311 59,028 94

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anihilate the obedience or dutie which Christians doo owe them as it appeareth by the same text where Saint Paul doeth not permit the Corinthians to digresse from their obedience for that cause so farre off is he then from that that he commandeth in other places 1. Tim. 2. Kom 13. that praiers shoulde bee ordinarily made for them and to honor them and paie them tribute And furthermore that because the Apostle in this place doeth indeuour to take awaie the scandale which the Corinthians had giuen it should followe by the counsell of this venerable leaguer that in stead of one shoulde spring mo then one hundred But this is a knowen thing that the deciding of a particular wrong hath no communitie with the generall administration of a whole realme for wee may well for our owne right or wrong in giuing place to our selues proceede without scandale or sedition but the putting a king frō his kingdom can neuer be so done and to be short the one is permitted the other is forbidden the one is in our power the other not Consider then this sottish fashion of arguing It is lawfull for mee in respecte of my businesse to choose him that I would then is it lawfull for subiectes in renouncing theyr king to choose such a one as they thinke good because the other is not of theyr religion This is well àsimili I praie you what incongruities are there What diuine or polititian woulde reason thus Doest thou not see that besides this thy wickednes intaking a waie the seepter from him to whome the Lord hath giuen it that it is not so easie a thing as thou doest make it to rauine vp the pray from the lyon Oh how thou wouldest bite and rend in peeces if they counsell coulde attayne so much Thou sellest mans bloud good cheape Also what Paradoxe is it when as thou saiest that it were better to chuse one of the moste contemptiblest amongst the Catholickes and make him king Doest thou not perceyue that heere wee ought to reason of the naturall Frenchman beeing valiant which will neuer practise the prouerbe Ab equis ad asinos Out of the hall into the kitchin Furthermore that such a little king shoulde bee a poore vnaduised Icarus Virg. the which the heate of the sunne in a moment woulde cause to fall into the sea And not beeing therewith contente to haue called the king an Ethnicke and Hereticke but moreouer thou namest him one that is fallen a relapse and an Apostata To the which thou hast beene already sufficientlye aunswered else where besides that which by and by shall be added It behooueth thee to proue sound and examine the trueth of matters and not falsly to deface the Magistrates giuen of God by odious wordes beeing inuented at pleasure against thy conscience Behold the answere to thy first Article the which declareth thee to be a seditious slaunderer and dooth cause thee to checke thy selfe of the faulte the which thou doest falsly impute vnto thy king for that that it is heresie to wrest the holy scriptures so as thou doest in causing subiects to turne from the obedience which they owe vnto their soueraignes And as for those which do obiect that the last kinges were not admitted to the crowne of France but by the administration of the Romish ceremonies the which doe require as some say that the king that now raigneth might enter in by the same gate wee aunswere that such ceremonyes ought not anyething at all to preiudice the diuine right because the necessitie doth present it selfe to reforme the Church This beeing heere admitted of all true diuines it shall also bee admitted that it is not reasonable so bring kings in subiection to superstitions beeing forbidden of God and much lesse to take away their politike administration which God hath giuen them ouer kingdoms for not obseruing the same The second Article NOw I come to the second Article of this leagued Doctor containing the Statutes Canons of the Councels to the which to be of the same nature and dependencie I will adde the seauenth comprehending the decrees of the Pope For these two Articles by a common consent do take in hand to excommunicate the king as an heretike with the nobles others that follow him in quality of fautors adherents of the heresie Therfore it is necessary to see whether such lightnings doe fall from heauen as sent from God or whether they came out of the depth as proceeded from Satan to knowe whether the children of light ought to feare them or not Let vs also be holde from the entraunce whether this tempester throwing his tempestes against the king doth shield himselfe as in former time with the pretence of heresie which if he doth we may annswere him in like sort as before how he ought to addresse himselfe to a sicke body moreouer that the remedie which he pretēdeth to giue to thē which might be holden of such a malady is pestiferous mortall and by consequence not to be receiued wherfore he shal answere to the names of such spirituall maladies not maintaine the heresie far off is it but to shewe that the Bishop of Rome nor any other in the manner of spirituall Phisitions haue neither calling right mandate or warrant to depose infidell Princes frō their kingdoms scepters Luk. 22. crownes which God hath giuen them seeing the ecclesiastical censures ought to do nothing but in spiritual punishments concerning religion not in politike causes of the world To the which ends we wil thus argue against such abuses tyrannies All that which is done in the church for the cause right vsage of christian religiō ought to haue the worde of God for obiect foundation 1. Cor. 3. for the authority of the same is altogether argued of in diuinity But the Canons of such Bishops the decrees of such Popes haue nothing for obiecte nor foundation but only the corruptible wil inuentions of corruptible men therfore it followeth that such Canons decrees do no carrye themselues to the right vsage of christian religion The Maior is proued by this generall maxime A Bishop can neither adde nor diminish to or from the holye scripture Deut. 4 1. Cor. 3. for that it pronounceth a curse against all men that shal take in hand to doe it forbiddeth to laye any other foundation but him which is already laide that is to saye Iesus Christ And like wise it shal be said to them that do otherwise who hath required these thinges at our handes Esa 1 they are an abhomination vnto me The Minor is thus proued God commandeth to approue Rom 13. 1. Tim. ● acknowledge and respect all kings which he giueth to people of what religion soeuer they bee From whence it followeth that such decrees Canons doe oppose themselues against his commandements to the truth wherof these texts are witnesse And it shall come to passe
worlde knoweth that the king is accused of heresie by this Monke and his like forasmuch as hee sayth and holdeth for certaine that the Romish church hath need of reformation vpon the which proposition is demaunded wherefore the king raigning shall bee sooner accused of heresie than infinite others of his like others as wel in Europe Asia or Affrica Besides that which hath beene sayde else where wee faie that in our region the last King constrayned but too late to knowe this truth had giuen charge to a learned personage to set foorth certayne Articles concerning the necessitie of reforming the Church The last Duke of Sauoy sayd to an Italian named Castro Caro professing the reformed religion Thou doest wel to maintaine thy faith Afterwards he placed him as gouernor ouer the vallyes of Angrongne Apol for Herod A Duke of Florence with like purpose answered the Ambassadour of the souldan of Egypt that in Christendome the fooles were shut vp in Monasteries The Venetians haue of long time detested the persecutions of the Popes The best part of Christian kings doe confirme this truth and the noble men in deede as much for it is proued that there are a great many Gentlemen throughout Europe which do euen grone and breath after this reformation If we come to the Ecclesiasticall persons the quantitie of them swarming out of the Couents and monasteries doeth likewise preach on high the same thing vnto vs. The like also is found by the Popes being constrained to produce such a like kinde of cōsent when as one of thē vpon the abuse of the Romane Church which was obiected and proued to him sayde to the protestant Princes of Germanie that his intention was to vnderstand it Sleidan and remedie it To whom it was answered that that did not appertaine to one Bishop alone As for philosophers councellers of lawe-rights and people of the third estate knowing the same truth and necessitie will be found euerie where such a great number that they will be innumerable In Asia an infinite number of Iewes doe deferre their conuersion to the Christian religion for the great abuses and idolatries which they see in the Romish church Let vs passe into Affrica then Presbiter Iohn great gouernour ouer the Ethiopians making profession of Christianitie verifieth the same by the generall permission of holy matrimonie instituted by God by the intire distribution which the Bishops doe make of the sacred signes of the holy supper following the ordinance of Iesus Christ What will then this malecontent saie when as for this cause onely hee accuseth his king of heresie seeing that so many Monarchies Princes Lordes Prelates of the Church Councellors Philosophers and other great godly and learned personages throughout all Europe haue holden sayd reproued confessed the same truth the which hath beene confirmed by so many Doctors and so many arguments that it is impossible for the gainsaiers to answere them The which doctors and arguments durst and dare maintaine and proue that if there be anie Prince in the world clere and purged from the crime of heresie it is our king for following the greatest reformation of Christian religion as euer hath beene sithence the death of the Apostles That it is so thou shalt finde by reading and considering the profession of faith which he hath shewed towards the two last kings which is come to light a long time sithence Therefore take a little paines with patience to conferre it with the holy Scriptures Now let vs come to the examination of the first Article conteining as we haue sayde seuen texts of the Scripture with the which this ligall Monke woulde helpe himselfe for his better reiecting the king if he could The first therefore is taken out of the seuententh Chapter of Deutronomie Deut. 17.17 where it is commanded to the people of Israel to constitute ouer them the king whome the Lorde their God should chuse comprised in the couenant which he had contracted with him from the which place the aaforesayd Monke doth drawe his conclusion as aforesaid that is to saie that the king for being an heretike ought not to be admitted to the crowne of France no more then in oldettme a Pagan might to that of the Iewes Therefore saith he the lawe of Moses concerning the election of the kings of Israel is morall and by consequence doth binde all Christians to the obseruation of the same The answere to this is that seeing Phisicke must be applied to the bodie that is diseased let vs put the case whether the question was concerning a king being an Infidell or an heretike For the regard namely of such a soueraigne I denie the proposition the which I maintain to be false for foure resons to be considered in the examination and circumstance of the text Deut. 17 where Moses saith thus Thou shalt make him king ouer thee whome the Lord thy God shall choose from amongst thy brethren thou shalt not set a stranger ouer thee which is not thy brother Where first of all is to bee vnderstoode that the king which the Lorde woulde giue vnto his people called in the Scripture the annointed of the Lord should be chosen after another fashion and to another end than others were Therefore Moses sayd that God himselfe woulde choose this king differing from them of other nations for that hee woulde haue him represent and figure the Messias his sonne beeing king euerlasting and redeemer of the world and that he would haue him to raigne ouer an holy nation which priuiledge giueth vs to vnderstand that these sacred kings were holy and separated from others Wherefore Moses in this text 1. Sam. 10 and the historie of the Kings doe witnesse that theyr election proceeded from God not from the people for which respects there was a separation and a difference put betweene them and others So as is seene in the election of Saul 1. Chron 28. Iug. 9 Dauid and Salomon The cause why Abimelech being before appointed king of Sichem indured but a while was for that that hee was not so called of God the time of the kings being not yet come Where it appeareth that such proceedinges are not conuenient at this daie for other nations If thou doest replie that christian kings haue one and the selfe same holines as those of the Iewes had proceeding from one common God I answere that it sufficeth to proue that the Christian nations neuer had this particular commandement nor this speciall promise to haue power alwayes to constitute ouer thē a king of their owne religion so giuen of GOD this is a priuiledge onely which the Iewes had for the Christians haue ben and are bound by the generall commandement of God to abide subiect to their Princes which hee hath giuen them of what religion soeuer they haue ben or be as shall be more at large discussed in his place To that which remaineth thou oughtest to proue that this realme is a
princes of the earth This is no meruaile then seeing the Pope challengeth power also ouer the Angelles Let vs continue the examination of this Article The Author addeth by exclamation and parenthesis that for the cause of heresie such canons doe disgrade euen to the Pope desiring to affirme notwithstanding that hee is erected aboue all Monarkes of the earth What greate admiration is this as if it were not knowne that all men receyuing a charge of the Bishop receyueth it with condition to bee deposed If hee becommeth an heretike the word of God doth declare it manifestly and the euill is that in thy place the practise doth oppose it selfe Admit this yet it is denied that hee may take in like manner frō the kings of the earth Tit. 3. because that amongst other thinges their charge is different from the ecclesiastical because they haue receiued their politike administration without such condition But if it doth fall out that a prince should be censured touching the depriuing him of the goods honors of this world it belōgeth to a politike conuocation of estates not to ecclesiastical persons And proceeding the Monke addeth that these Canons do absolue release all subiectes from the obedience that they owe to their Lordes or kinges being heretikes Now for the answer It hath been said proued against such iniustice that God raigneth ouer kingdoms establisheth those whom he pleaseth be they faithful or infidels I haue called thee saith the lord to Cirus Isay 45. although thou hast not knowne me and I haue named thee by this name to the ende to make the nations subiect vnto thee This is here saide of Pagan princes Now let vs enter into the cōmon-welth of Israel where the church of God was and where all the kings ought to haue made profession of the true religion There were found many heretikes before and after their comming to the kingdom neuertheles not one of them was euer deposed for heresie To bee shorte neither the Prophets Iesus Christ nor his Apostles haue euer taken away Ier. 27. Luk. 20. Rom. 13. or abolished the dignities and pollicies of the world for such respects but rather haue maintained and confirmed such magistrates in commaunding to giue to Pagan Princes the things which God hath ordained assigned for them Heere thou doest reply that seeing that we ought rather to obey the creator than the creature if it commeth to passe that the seruice of the king doth detract vs from the seruice of God wee ought to leaue the lesse to obey the greater The answere is that this maxime is verefied in it selfe but very badly applyed to that which is the question beeing considered that they doe obey the creator which do obey his commaundements as concerning their dueties which they owe vnto their soueraigne Magistrate And if for the cause of religion he would draw thee from the seruice of God then the Prophets Iesus Christ and his Apostles commaund thee not to digresse from it so farre off is it that thou shouldst roote him out that contrariwise thou oughtest to pray to God for him because hee hath the hearts of Princes in his handes and otherwise Prou. 21. Math. 10. they commaund thee to endure persecution or to flie and go some where else If these be not thy proceedings thou art no disciple of Christ Let vs see how thou doest borrow the examples following The first is of the bande of wiues towardes their husbandes The second is of children towardes their fathers The third is of seruantes towardes their maisters Where thou saiest that in the case of heresie such bands do cease and from thence thou dost inferre that for the same cause the band of the subiectes towardes their Princes ought to cease Now for aunswere I say that the antecedent is false and that the consequence is not true Beginning at the first example thou doest alleadge and apply falsly for the text sayth word for word That if any woman hath married an infidell and if hee is content to dwell with her let her not depart from him 2. Cor. 7. Where it is added what knowest thou woman whether thou shalt saue thy husband or not that is to say by praiers instructions and good conuersations It is well sayd in the text that if the infidell or vnbeleeuer will departe let him departe But such a seperation commeth not from the beleeuer but from the vnbeleeuing Behold how thou doest falsly alleadge the worde of God And in respect of the second example all men know that amongst the dueties of the worlde the obedience of children towards their fathers be they beleeuers or vnbeleeuers is so generally and profoundly imprinted in the brest of mankinde that aswell the lawes diuine as humane doe commaund it alwayes without exception so clearely that to dilate these thinges by examples and textes is to sowe nothing else but wordes of wisedome in vaine Terent. A Pagan would aunswere that nature could not breake this duetie If some of your Canons haue giuen him such great authoriti● as thou talkest of it may bee aunswered that the anthors of them were worse than infidelles And as for the third example taken from slaues Mat. 5. which may in case of heresie saiest thou in like sorte abandon theyr maisters To aunswere that Saint Paule the Doctor of the Gentils doth tell thee that thou doest lye when hee commaunded seruantes in his time to obey theyr Maisters which were for the most part infidels saying Seruants Ephes 6. Gen. 14. obey them which are your Maisters according to the flesh for so Ioseph was obedient vnto Pharao and also to his first Maister and Abdias to Achab his Lorde which was an heretike 1. King 28. and moreouer an hypocrite and a persecutour of the Church If then because of religion priuate men maye not leese their right which they haue ouer their seruants much lesse then shoulde Monarkes leese the obedience and acknowledgement which is due vnto them from those whom the Lorde hath subiected vnto them by diuine and humane right otherwise I pray you what maner of arguing wold this be if a prince disobeyeth God in a pointe of religion then it is permitted to take his scepter from him Now I must enter into the great denth of the Romish excommunication by the Ministerie whereof this leaguer doth pretend to curse and roote out aswell the king as the nobles and other subiects which do take his part He saith then that if a prince be excommunicated the Canons doe forbid that any obedience should be giuen vnto him And comming from these to Hypothese he produceth the sentence of excommunication of Pope Sixtus the fifth of that name denounced against the king in the yeare 1585. the ninth of September beginning thus we do establish in the full power which the king of kinges hath giuen vs c. in the which are comprised the nobles and other Catholicks which do
the world without anie other knowing of the cause Tell me where hast thou learned this fashion of arguing It commeth not from the Apostles who in stead of commending the Ethnike religions by such examples did combat with and beate them downe by the authoritie of the word of God Ier. 2. True it is that in Ieremie God reasoning saith that his people are lesse constant in his truth than the idolaters are in their errours But the Prophet did not endeuor to the end to commend the perseuerance nor the obstinacie of the idolaters to the which in the meane time thou doest intend Thou takest then this fashion of arguing from the oracle of Apollo the which wicked creature did counsell the pagans in times past alwayes to reteine the religions receiued into theyr countrie from all antiquity without chaunging any thing Xenoph in his Com. Cicero d●●egibus lib. 2. Knowest thou not that amongst the Pagans such examples are not concluded and much lesse amongst Diuines which do argue altogether by the worde of God Finally doest thou not knowe that the Gentiles did forsake theyr false religions by the preaching of the Gospell Thou hast done very fairely then in alleadging the Persians Greeks and Romanes in their paganisme to the ende that by their example a man should not inquire after the certaintie and assurance of the true religion Iohn 5. On our side wee see agayne the disciples of Christ with the contentes of his will written within his booke which is the worde of God which doth alwayes remaine But the religions of the Pagans Isay 40. are perished with theyr authors where it appeareth that thou shewest thy religion to bee more wicked than the Pagans did theirs for they neither would nor durst serue so much wickednes and crueltie as thou doest serue thy selfe with in that which thou callest the Romish Catholicke religion Let vs see now whether thou canst profit thy selfe any better in thy fourth Article or not But it will sooner bee found out that through a hotte disease thou wilt fall from the water into the fire The fourth Article THe summe of this may be drawn to this poynt that the Catholicks which do mayntaine the kings parte doe breake the statutes and fund mentall lawe of Fraunce For the proofe of which rupture this Doctor like vnto a mouse that hath but one wretched hoale neyther knoweth how nor can alleadge any other text or reason but a violent and bloudy statute or rather the default of a statute which the last Duke of Guize did wreste by constraint against the last king imitating beggers which doe begge almes with a two handed sworde My leaguerer then the better to fill his paper layeth foorth vnto vs here at large the vnderstanding of his pretended statute which hee calleth the fundamentall lawe of the Realme and the statute of vnyon solempnly sworne vnto by all the estates of the Towne of Bloys in the yeare of our Lorde God 1588. contayning these poyntes that is to saye that the king woulde holde sayth hee for an inuiolable lawe First that hee would lyue and dye in his Catholike Romish Religion Secondly that hee woulde imploye himselfe in good earnest by all the meanes that hee could to race our the heretikes Thirdly that all his subiectes shoulde sweare and binde themselues vnto the same condition And comming to the fourth that the king dying without children no heretike should be receyued to be either king or prince Beholde nowe the substance of the Article And first of all for aunswere It is demaunded who threwe the last king downe headlong into his last troubles The house of the Guize Who caused him shamefully and in daunger of his lyfe to come out of Paris The house of Guyze Who did afterwardes chase him from his other Towne of Chartres The Guyze Who seized himselfe of the most part of his Townes The house of Lorrayne Who mooued the Frenchmen to treason rebellion and reuolting agaynst the same king The same house Finally who constrayned the poore passengers to giue that by by force which they durst not refuse to Robbers which tooke them within Bloys Euen hee himselfe beeing guiltie of high treason a traiterous and wicked vsurper of the estate of the Lord. This was in the same time and state when the last Duke of Guyze demaunded of the last king suche an infamous and detestable raunsome The which this leagued Moonke calleth the Parliament and Statutes of Bloys and the fundamentall lawe of the Realme Patience I pray you Is there any thing more impudent more falsely named and more ridiculous than to call this rauening extortion and constraynte A Statute and a solemne and a fundamentall Lawe of a Realme Doest thou not know that in the making of a Lawe the free will of the lawgiuer is requisite And for want whereof the ordinaunce which shall bee made agaynst his will shall bee rather accounted rebellion and felonye than any iust and true Lawe If thou doest heere obiecte that the swearing of the King passed betweene in suche a Statute thou shalt bee aunswered in lyke sorte That is to saye that the swearing wherein GOD is taken to witnesse in things Deut. 2● which in theyr owne nature ought to bee holye and iust requyreth likewise a free will that it maye bee thereby able wholesomely to foresee that it promiseth nothing vnto God but that which the conscience telleth vs must bee iustly promised and perfourmed For want whereof the swearing is not onely a nullitie but also ought to bee retracted as beeing made contrary to the institution and ordinaunce of God Whereupon it ensueth that hee which hath sworne rashly redoubleth his faulte if hee continueth and effecteth the same wicked swearing Then wilt thou replye that the King in suche a case ought not to sweare at all wherein I agree with thee but so that thou oughtest to consider that I detest and reprooue it in so much as the feare thereof dooth bring manie kinges to this passe for to sweare rather politikely in Greece than religiously in Iuda when matters doe concerne theyr estates and especially if they fall into anie apparaunt daunger of theyr liues But in such lamentable default why doest thou rather take an occasiō against the last king who was constrained through the feare of death than the Guyze who without any occasion did first shewe himselfe to bee periured towardes the king by his treason and rebellion And wherefore doest thou so narrowly search this faulte amongst kinges and Princes rather than amongst Popes which cal themselues the vicars of Christ Iesus which doe but sport or ieast at such oathes as this worthie saying doth testifie Heretico non est seruanda fides By and by hee will present a newe occasion to speake of an oath wherefore then wee saye for conclusion of the Article that euen as money beeing taken away by force by robbers theeues cannot bee called a gifte a present or an almes giuen
to shew himselfe chiefe of the Leaguerers nor the Leaguerers which are amongst the seditious Frenchmen to rebell agaynst theyr king The first example heereof is taken from the sodayne death of the two last Popes beeing dispatched by a letter of exchange hauing adioyned vnto it the Schisme which the same Spaniard had brought into the towne of Rome where I demand that if the king of Spaine be so affectioned vnto his religion wherefore doth hee not respect him whome hee holdeth and acknowledgeth as the lieuetenant of God and to be a spirituall Father One may see then that by such workmanships he would haue vs to vnderstand that whosoeuer shall not bee in the nature of a Spaniard shal neuer be accounted a good Romish Catholike Lastly the other example commeth from the towne of Soissons the Leaguers of the which by the ordinaunce of their superiours as they call them haue chased out the ladie Abbesse from the aforesoid Soissons being the kings Aunt where she hath alwaies beene preserued both from the one and the other notwithstanding that they knowe that she is the most ancient princesse of the bloud and reputed of all for the most zealous affectionate vnto the Catholike Romane religion which is in the world An euident token that a spirit which is the author of confusion and sedition doth vrge the furies of such Leaguers not the zeale of religion Poore Catholiks vnaduised which do affect so much that tyrannicall Spanish gouernment consider here the intention and purpose of your ecclesiasticall leaguers which do so much prise and praise the Inquisition of such a climate yea euen as of brideled calues if there bee anie perseuerance in such blindnesse Assure your selues most miserable French men that the most noble the most valiant the most vertuous the most aduised the most wise the most learned the most iust and the most rich amongst you shall euermore vnder such a schoolmaster be accounted and holden as heretikes if it commeth to passe that ye bee not found in all things agreeable vnto maister Inquisitor Then ye shall vnderstand by them that the masse shall not saue you To this purpose two examples among a thousand which came vnto my knowledge a few daies sithence shall open this text It came to passe that two marchants of Gascoigne being in Spain and going by the high waie did contemplate and beholde an Image being much polished and verie faire and shining as bright as anie of their Countrie whereuppon they tooke occasion betweene themselues to demaund whether that matter whereof it was made was either of stone or wood This was inough to be sayd in Spaine they were heard by one of the Inquisitors and presently lead vnto a miserable prison wherein they remained the space of three whole yeres after notwithstanding any protestations or prooues they could make or bring for the triall of theyr being Catholiks And the other example is this A man of Poictou a great Catholike being at Lisborne seeing a great Priest beeing graue fayre and in good habite and marching accordingly this man began to saie thinking to haue praysed the Priest Beholde a Priest saith hee and not one of the durtie Priests of Poictou This being but once spoken which was inough immediatly this Poicteuni is heard vnderstood and therevpon lead presently in dome Petri into the popes prison where he was kept safe for the space of sixe moneths without knowing wherefore about the end of which tearme he was commaunded that he should not cal Priests Durtie any more There may be a whole booke composed of these tyrannies and vniust dealings These effects of the Inquisition will be found proued true and not thy conceit of anie Catholikes to bee punished by the magistrates of that religiō either in England or in Bearne as hath beene els where said Those to whome it appertayneth knowe that such offenders were punished in the quality of the seditious not as being religious From thence thou turnest for this seuententh time to leape vpon the authoritie of the Popes saying that the king is not the son of the church because he wold not kisse his pantable To the which I say againe that it hath beene proued vnto thee that it is enough for him that the Christian church is his mother that the Romish church cannot take frō him this liberty priuilege And for that thou doestalwaies feare some ecclesiasticall reformation neuer desiring any other religion than that which feedeth the belly thou threatenest the noblemen with their going to hell if they do not helpe to maintaine thy cause Hereupon harken I pray ye to the preacher I should loue it better saiest thou that ye were Huguenits so to see you fight for vs Catholiks Marke I pray ye he holdeth that the Huguenits are damned whereupon it followeth that hee should haue nothing to do with condemning of those Catholikes of whome he speaketh seeing that they should defend the kitchin his mother Behold also how he calleth the Huguenits to the same defence Thou art in thy triumph but goe to with thy Lyntill broth to the which thou doest allude To be short thou art greeued diuersly because the Noblemen which are the principall force of the realme will not vnderstand all this Thou hast bin told that they are indifferently bound aswel to defend their king as their cuntry together with their honors liberties piuiledges yea the more because they are bearded with the Spanyard an ancient enemy vnto whom ye would willingly sell htem Therefore remember thy selfe of the answer that was giuē to the robbers which pleaded against the merchantes for carrying weapons to defend themselues Thou doest heere repeat for the 70. time the difference hapned in France for religion The which here againe I say haue been moued by your clergie els where hath beene answered in so many sortes and so often that it is more than enough And now turne again thy leafe Thou dost heap vp afterwards proud maiesticall words of thine owne deuising thinking thereby the better to gette the Noblemen on thy side but thou oughtest to serue thy selfe with concluding reasons and not with affecting wordes throwne into the aire to the abandoning of all that which might happen to come after And how doest thou torment thy selfe in vaine on this side also it is to no purpose that thou doest propose vnto the aforesaide noble men the examples of the most excellent Romane knights as that of Sceuola amongst others Thou malitious blind doest thou not see that it was for the same cause of defence that Sceuola burnt his hand and that the others imploied themselues in the defence of their Countrie It is true that thou makest great account of the Iacobin that kild the last king the which thou doest produce againe as in a triumph vsing these great wordes One that was religious hath flaine the king of France hauing giuen testimonie of his zeale vnto all France O miserable