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A67270 Baptismōn didachē, the doctrine of baptisms, or, A discourse of dipping and sprinkling wherein is shewed the lawfulness of other ways of baptization, besides that of a total immersion, and objections against it answered / by William Walker ... Walker, William, 1623-1684. 1678 (1678) Wing W417; ESTC R39415 264,191 320

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then_o hold_v unlawful_a 3._o that_o sprinkle_v be_v especial_o allow_v in_o case_n of_o necessity_n weakness_n danger_n of_o death_n or_o want_v of_o conveniency_n for_o immerge_v 4._o that_o in_o this_o case_n god_n require_v mercy_n rather_o than_o sacrifice_n 5_o that_o the_o main_a end_n of_o baptism_n be_v this_o way_n obtain_v 6._o that_o the_o mystical_a effect_n of_o it_o be_v as_o true_o represent_v this_o way_n as_o by_o dip_v though_o not_o so_o plain_o so_o grave_a a_o witness_n be_v dr._n cave_n against_o sprinkle_v in_o baptism_n §_o 5._o bishop_n jewel_n be_v the_o next_o that_o mr._n danvers_n make_v to_o appear_v in_o this_o cause_n and_o he_o as_o mr._n d._n tell_v we_o in_o his_o apology_n p._n 308._o bring_v the_o council_n of_o worm_n determine_v the_o manner_n of_o baptism_n thus_o viz._n that_o the_o dip_v into_o the_o water_n be_v the_o go_v down_o into_o hell_n or_o the_o grave_a and_o that_o the_o come_n out_o of_o the_o water_n be_v the_o resurrection_n §_o 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that_o come_v out_o of_o the_o water_n represent_v a_o come_n out_o of_o the_o grave_n or_o a_o resurrection_n the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n as_o they_o be_v in_o surius_n be_v these_o et_fw-la nè_fw-la fortè_fw-la cviquam_fw-la sit_fw-la dubium_fw-la huius_fw-la simplex_fw-la mysterium_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la 522._o vormatiense_n council_n can._n 5._o de_fw-la baptismi_fw-la sacramento_n ap_fw-mi surium_n tom._n 3._o p._n 522._o videat_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la mortem_fw-la &_o resurrectionem_fw-la christi_fw-la significari_fw-la no_o in_o aquis_fw-la mersio_fw-la quasi_fw-la in_o infernum_fw-la descensio_fw-la est_fw-la &_o rursum_fw-la ab_fw-la aquis_fw-la emersio_fw-la resurrectio_fw-la est_fw-la therefore_o so_o b._n jewel_n report_v part_n of_o they_o in_o the_o council_n of_o worm_n it_o be_v write_v thus_o in_o aquas_fw-la demersio_fw-la in_fw-la infernum_fw-la descensio_fw-la est_fw-la &_o rursus_fw-la ab_fw-la aquis_fw-la emersio_fw-la resurrectio_fw-la est_fw-la the_o dip_v 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ceremony_n in_o his_o three_o argument_n against_o mr._n blake_n in_o these_o word_n viz._n §_o 9_o quoad_fw-la modum_fw-la to_o the_o manner_n say_v he_o it_o be_v common_o confess_v by_o we_o to_o the_o anabaptist_n as_o our_o commentator_n declare_v that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o baptise_a be_v dip_v over_o head_n in_o water_n and_o that_o this_o signify_v their_o profession_n both_o of_o believe_v the_o burial_n and_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o their_o own_o present_a renounce_v the_o world_n and_o flesh_n or_o die_v to_o sin_n and_o live_v to_o christ_n or_o rise_v again_o to_o newness_n of_o life_n or_o be_v bury_v and_o rise_v again_o with_o christ_n as_o the_o apostle_n expound_v in_o the_o forecited_a text_n of_o coloss_n 2._o and_o rom._n 6._o and_o though_o say_v he_o we_o have_v think_v it_o lawful_a to_o disuse_n the_o manner_n of_o dip_v and_o to_o use_v less_o water_n yet_o we_o presume_v not_o to_o change_v the_o use_n and_o signification_n of_o it_o so_o then_o he_o that_o signal_o profess_v to_o die_v and_o rise_v again_o in_o baptism_n with_o christ_n do_v signal_o profess_v save_v faith_n and_o repentance_n but_o this_o do_v all_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o apostle_n practice_n §_o 10._o i_o answer_v that_o i_o see_v nothing_o in_o this_o testimony_n that_o merit_v so_o triumphant_a a_o remark_n to_o be_v set_v upon_o it_o for_o any_o advantage_n that_o be_v give_v to_o mr._n danvers_n cause_n by_o it_o mr._n baxter_n confess_v that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o baptize_v be_v dip_v over_o head_n in_o water_n but_o he_o do_v not_o confess_v that_o they_o be_v dip_v over_o body_n too_o plain_o that_o which_o mr._n baxter_n confess_v amount_n but_o to_o a_o partial_a mersation_n of_o the_o head_n and_o do_v not_o necessary_o imply_v a_o total_a immersion_n of_o the_o body_n unless_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o a_o man_n to_o have_v his_o head_n dip_v in_o water_n except_o his_o whole_a body_n be_v dip_v into_o it_o also_o and_o if_o that_o will_v do_v mr._n d._n any_o service_n much_o good_a d'it_v he_o with_o his_o testimony_n the_o like_a we_o have_v show_v in_o these_o paper_n from_o st._n augustin_n and_o st._n hierom_n etc._n etc._n but_o that_o will_v not_o do_v the_o dipper_n business_n who_o nothing_o will_v serve_v but_o a_o total_a judaical_a immersion_n of_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o the_o change_n mr._n baxter_n speak_v of_o i_o suppose_v to_o be_v from_o this_o partial_a dip_v into_o sprinkle_v which_o grant_v signify_v nothing_o §_o 11._o but_o suppose_v he_o mean_v what_o he_o say_v of_o a_o total_a immersion_n than_o i_o judge_v his_o sense_n be_v that_o general_o the_o baptize_v be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n dip_v over_o head_n in_o water_n not_o universal_o that_o most_o be_v so_o baptize_v not_o that_o none_o be_v baptize_v otherwise_o and_o then_o his_o confession_n will_v neither_o hurt_v himself_o nor_o we_o §_o 12._o but_o if_o he_o mean_v more_o than_o so_o then_o since_o he_o have_v at_o the_o same_o time_n declare_v himself_o to_o have_v think_v it_o lawful_a to_o difuse_v the_o i._n e._n that_o manner_n of_o dip_v and_o to_o use_v less_o water_n it_o be_v plain_a he_o think_v the_o church_n not_o to_o be_v oblige_v by_o that_o apostolical_a practice_n to_o a_o universal_a observance_n thereof_o through_o all_o succession_n of_o age_n but_o to_o have_v power_n to_o make_v alteration_n even_o in_o sacramental_n so_o they_o be_v but_o circumstantial_a and_o not_o essential_a part_n of_o worship_n and_o so_o the_o produce_v of_o his_o testimony_n seem_v to_o be_v but_o a_o wrest_n of_o his_o word_n to_o signify_v what_o be_v not_o in_o his_o mind_n which_o whether_o it_o be_v fair_a or_o no_o i_o leave_v to_o mr._n d._n himself_o to_o consider_v §_o 13._o if_o i_o have_v not_o speak_v mr._n baxter_n mind_n or_o have_v not_o speak_v it_o
lawful_a rite_n whence_o must_v follow_v that_o there_o be_v therefore_o a_o necessity_n of_o dip_v in_o baptism_n i_o be_o not_o satisfy_v nor_o shall_v be_v till_o he_o tell_v we_o so_o himself_o a_o proper_a ceremony_n and_o rite_n i_o shall_v easy_o grant_v he_o may_v affirm_v it_o to_o be_v because_o no_o body_n deny_v it_o but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o proper_a rite_n and_o ceremony_n in_o the_o sense_n new_o express_v and_o explain_v i_o be_o very_o confident_a he_o never_o say_v he_o never_o think_v partly_o because_o the_o doctor_n be_v too_o learn_v not_o to_o know_v better_a thing_n than_o so_o partly_o because_o i_o suppose_v his_o own_o practice_n as_o well_o as_o other_o man_n have_v be_v to_o baptize_v after_o another_o manner_n and_o partly_o because_o i_o be_o assure_v from_o himself_o that_o what_o he_o say_v of_o the_o apostle_n allude_v in_o those_o word_n be_v bury_v with_o he_o in_o baptism_n to_o the_o ancient_a rite_n or_o manner_n of_o baptise_v 1677._o letter_n date_v jan._n 31._o 1677._o which_o be_v immersion_n be_v without_o any_o mention_n or_o so_o much_o as_o think_v of_o any_o necessity_n thereby_o lay_v upon_o christian_n of_o observe_v punctual_o all_o the_o circumstance_n use_v in_o the_o institution_n of_o this_o sacrament_n any_o more_o than_o of_o the_o other_o which_o not_o the_o anabaptist_n themselves_o will_v say_v there_o be_v and_o therefore_o the_o reader_n may_v be_v satisfy_v that_o whatever_o mr._n d._n suggest_v to_o the_o contrary_a that_o reverend_a person_n be_v no_o more_o conformable_a in_o judgement_n than_o in_o practice_n to_o the_o anabaptist_n nor_o be_v by_o any_o thing_n that_o he_o have_v write_v or_o say_v a_o witness_n for_o they_o and_o against_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n when_o by_o the_o allowance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n they_o baptize_v otherwise_o than_o by_o a_o total_a dip_v as_o in_o several_a case_n they_o do_v and_o may_v do_v it_o by_o her_o allowance_n §_o 83._o and_o now_o the_o field_n be_v thus_o far_o clear_v i_o may_v fair_o retreat_v but_o because_o i_o discern_v two_o straggler_n behind_o and_o come_v up_o at_o a_o distance_n i_o will_v stand_v a_o while_n and_o receive_v their_o charge_n §_o 84._o the_o first_o be_v ainsworth_n who_o as_o we_o be_v tell_v by_o mr._n d._n say_v upon_o leu._n 15.5_o to_o baptize_v or_o wash_v his_o flesh_n as_o be_v express_v v._o 13.16_o mean_v his_o whole_a body_n and_o so_o the_o greek_a translate_v shall_v wash_v his_o body_n the_o hebrew_n say_v every_o place_n where_o aught_o be_v say_v in_o the_o law_n of_o bathe_v the_o flesh_n and_o wash_v the_o clothes_n of_o the_o unclean_a it_o be_v not_o mean_v but_o of_o baptise_v the_o whole_a body_n in_o water_n maim_v in_o makraoth_n c._n 1._o s_o 2._o figure_v out_o our_o sanctification_n by_o christ_n and_o his_o spirit_n by_o who_o we_o draw_v near_o to_o god_n have_v our_o heart_n sprinkle_v from_o a_o evil_a conscience_n and_o body_n wash_v with_o pure_a water_n heb._n 10.22_o v._o 11._o if_o a_o man_n be_v baptize_v all_o over_o save_v the_o tip_n of_o his_o little_a finger_n he_o be_v yet_o in_o his_o uncleanness_n and_o if_o clay_n or_o any_o such_o thing_n cleave_v to_o the_o flesh_n of_o a_o man_n it_o be_v unclean_a still_o as_o it_o be_v and_o the_o baptise_v profit_v they_o nothing_o c._n 1._o sc_fw-la 2_o 7_o 12_o etc._n etc._n §_o 85._o the_o greek_a translate_v indeed_o v._n 13._o shall_v wash_v his_o body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o v._o 16._o shall_v wash_v all_o his_o body_n but_o they_o do_v not_o translate_v it_o shall_v dip_v his_o body_n i_o hope_v a_o thing_n may_v be_v wash_v and_o wash_v all_o over_o and_o yet_o not_o dip_v so_o their_o translation_n help_v the_o cause_n nothing_o at_o all_o and_o suppose_v the_o hebrew_n say_v true_a as_o i_o be_o not_o so_o much_o a_o rabbi_n as_o to_o manage_v dispute_n on_o this_o head_n of_o discourse_n yet_o than_o this_o only_o follow_v that_o baptise_v the_o whole_a body_n be_v mean_v wherever_o bathe_v of_o the_o flesh_n be_v mention_v but_o not_o that_o it_o be_v mean_v other_o where_n and_o there_o be_v mention_v often_o enough_o of_o cleanse_v with_o wash_n where_o yet_o bathe_v be_v not_o mention_v though_o i_o be_o not_o satisfy_v that_o bathe_n do_v in_o the_o notion_n of_o it_o necessary_o imply_v dip_v again_o there_o can_v be_v no_o argue_n from_o this_o sort_n of_o wash_v but_o to_o wash_n of_o the_o same_o sort_n but_o wash_v of_o proselyte_n for_o admission_n into_o the_o covenant_n be_v another_o thing_n from_o wash_v of_o person_n from_o pollution_n by_o issue_n and_o this_o wash_n be_v of_o divine_a institution_n but_o whether_o the_o other_o be_v so_o be_v uncertain_a of_o this_o the_o institution_n clear_o appear_v in_o the_o word_n and_o so_o it_o may_v be_v better_o judge_v of_o but_o of_o the_o other_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a if_o any_o appearance_n and_o so_o of_o that_o we_o can_v be_v so_o certain_a in_o our_o judgement_n further_o though_o it_o be_v never_o so_o much_o as_o they_o say_v yet_o still_o be_v that_o no_o obligation_n unto_o we_o who_o be_v under_o another_o dispensation_n and_o have_v liberty_n confer_v on_o we_o by_o christ_n from_o that_o yoke_n of_o bondage_n which_o be_v impose_v on_o they_o by_o moses_n until_o the_o time_n of_o reformation_n see_v ch._n 8._o of_o this_o treatise_n last_o i_o argue_v thus_o if_o there_o be_v to_o be_v so_o much_o scrupulosity_n in_o the_o baptise_v of_o christian_n as_o the_o rabbi_n say_v there_o be_v in_o the_o baptise_v of_o jew_n and_o the_o same_o thing_n render_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o one_o of_o no_o effect_n which_o render_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o other_o ineffectual_a than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o though_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o a_o man_n be_v put_v under_o water_n as_o the_o dipper_n will_v have_v it_o yet_o through_o the_o adherency_n of_o clay_n or_o some_o other_o adventitious_a perhaps_o excrementitious_a matter_n to_o his_o body_n he_o may_v still_o be_v unbaptise_v and_o we_o shall_v be_v as_o uncertain_a on_o that_o account_n when_o any_o person_n be_v true_o baptize_v as_o they_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n on_o account_n of_o the_o priest_n intention_n to_o baptize_v if_o there_o be_v not_o to_o be_v that_o scrupulosity_n among_o we_o as_o be_v among_o they_o then_o why_o be_v their_o custom_n in_o that_o kind_n so_o scrupulous_o urge_v upon_o we_o this_o for_o ainsworth_n §_o 86._o then_o for_o dr._n goodwin_n to_o this_o purpose_n we_o have_v dr._n goodwin_n in_o his_o support_n of_o faith_n p._n 54._o very_o excellent_o viz._n that_o the_o eminent_a thing_n signify_v and_o represent_v in_o baptism_n be_v not_o simple_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o wash_v we_o from_o our_o sin_n but_o there_o be_v a_o further_a representation_n therein_o of_o christ_n death_n burial_n and_o resurrection_n in_o the_o baptise_a be_v first_o bury_v under_o water_n and_o then_o rise_v out_o of_o it_o and_o this_o be_v not_o in_o a_o bare_a conformity_n to_o christ_n but_o in_o a_o representation_n of_o communion_n with_o christ_n in_o that_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n therefore_o it_o be_v say_v we_o be_v bury_v with_o he_o in_o baptism_n and_o wherein_o we_o be_v rise_v with_o he_o etc._n etc._n §_o 87._o that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o wash_v we_o from_o sin_n be_v represent_v in_o baptism_n be_v tacit_o consent_v to_o by_o that_o doctor_n in_o this_o place_n and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o eminent_a thing_n signify_v and_o represent_v in_o it_o but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o so_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o so_o or_o that_o that_o be_v not_o all_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v signify_v and_o represent_v in_o it_o but_o there_o be_v a_o further_a representation_n therein_o etc._n etc._n be_v the_o thing_n if_o i_o understand_v the_o doctor_n assert_v by_o he_o wherein_o i_o know_v none_o will_v contradict_v he_o provide_v he_o make_v not_o that_o which_o be_v the_o primary_n design_n of_o baptism_n to_o truckle_n to_o other_o secondary_a designation_n by_o it_o §_o 88_o but_o here_o i_o observe_v the_o doctor_n be_v not_o write_v about_o dip_v or_o sprinkle_v in_o a_o way_n of_o dispute_n for_o the_o one_o and_o against_o the_o other_o nor_o meddle_v in_o the_o least_o in_o those_o point_n in_o a_o way_n of_o controversy_n only_o show_v how_o that_o by_o the_o baptized_n be_v first_o bury_v under_o water_n and_o then_o rise_v out_o of_o it_o which_o be_v a_o way_n of_o speak_v familiar_a to_o divine_n even_o those_o that_o own_o and_o avow_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o sprinkle_v a_o