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A07039 Hay any worke for Cooper: or a briefe pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende byshopps counselling them, if they will needs be barrelled vp, for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie [and] the state, that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin, for the prouiding of their cooper. Because the reuerend T.C. (by which misticall letters, is vnderstood, eyther the bounsing parson of Eastmeane, or Tom Coakes his chaplaine) to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull [sic] tubtrimmer. Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you, in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned pistles, and makes the coopers hoopes to flye off, and the Bishops tubs to leake out of all crye. Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane. Marprelate, Martin, pseud.; Throckmorton, Job, 1545-1601, attributed name.; Penry, John, 1559-1593, attributed name. 1589 (1589) STC 17456; ESTC S112300 39,242 60

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such notable pulpit men There is a neighbour of ours an honest priest who was sometimes symple as he nowe standes a vice in a playe for want of a better his name is Gliberie of Hawsteade in Essex he goes much to the pulpit On a time I think it was the last Maie he went vp with a full resolution to do his businesse with great commendations But see the fortune of it A boy in the Church hearing either the sommer Lord with his Maie game or Robin Hood with his Morrice daunce going by the Church out goes the boye Good Gliberie though he were in the pulpit yet had a minde to his olde companions abroad a company of merrie grigs you must think them to be as merie as a vice on a stage seeing the boy going out finished his matter presently with Iohn of Londons Amen saying ha ye faith boie are they there then ha with thee so came down among them hee goes Were it not then pittie that the dignitie of such a priest should decaie And I would gentle T.C. that you would take the paines to write a treatise against the boie with the red cap which put this Gliberie out of his matter at another time For Glibery being in the pulpit so fastened his eyes vpon a boye with a red cap that he was cleane dasht out of countenaunce in so much that no note could be hard from him at that time but this Take away red cap there take away red cappe there it had bene better that he had neuer bin borne he hath marred suche a sermon this day as it is woonderfull to thinke The Queene and the Counsell might well haue heard it for a good sermon so came down An admonition to the people of England to take heed of boi●…s with red caps which make them set light by the dignitie of their priests would do good in this time brother T.C. you know well Reuerend T.C. You may herby perceiue that T.C. is a bishop The cause why wee are so spighted is because we doe endeuor to maintaine the lawes which her Maiestie and the whole state of the Realme haue allowed and doe not admit a new platforme of gouernment deuised I know not by whom Reuerend Martin Why T.C. saye Eulojin for Eulogein as often as you will and I wil neuer spight you or the Bishop of Winchester eyther for the matter But doe you thinke our Churche gouernement to be good and lawfull because hir Maiestie and the state who maintaine the reformed religion alloweth the same Why the Lorde doth not allow it therefore it cannot be lawfull And it is the falt of such wretches as you bishops are that her Maiestie and the state alloweth the same For you should haue other wise instructed them They know you not yet so thorowly as I doe So that if I can prooue that the Lord disliketh our Church gouernement your endeuors to maintaine the same shew that thereby you cannot chuse but be traytors to God and his worde whatsoeuer you are to her Maiestie and the State Nowe T.C. looke to your selfe for I will presently make all the hoops of your bishoppricks flie assunder Therefore Our Churche gouernement is an vnlawfull Churche gouernment and not allowed in the sight of God Because That church gouernment is an vnlawful church gouernment the offices and officers whereof the ciuil maiestrate may lawfully abollish out of the church marke my craft in reasoning brother T.C. I say the offices and officers for I grant that the maiestrate may thrust the officers of a lawful church gouerment out of the church if they be Diotripheses Mar-elmes Whitgifts Simon Maugustes Coopers Pernes Kenoldes or any such like Iudases though the most of these must be packing offices and al but their offices must stand that the same may be supplied by honester men But the offices of Archbishops and bishopps and therefore the officers much more may be lawfully abollished out of the church by her Maiestie and our State And truely this were braue weather to turne them out it is pitty to keepe them in any longer And that would do me good at the hart to see Iohn of London and the rest of his brethren so discharged of his busines as he might freely runn in his cassocke and hose after his bowle or florish with his 2. hand sword O t is a sweete trunchfiddle But the offices of Archbishops and bishops may be lawfully abollished out of the church by her Maiestie and the state As I hope one day they shal be Therefore marke now T.C. and cary me this conclusion to Iohn O Lambehith for his breakefast our church gouerment by Arch. and bishops is an vnlawful church gouerment You see brother Cooper that I am very courteous in my minor for I desire therein no more offices to bee thrust out of the church at one time but Archb. and Bishops As for Deanes Archdeacons and Chancellors I hope they wil be so kind vnto my Lords grace as not to stay if his worship and the rest of the noble clergie Lords weare turned out to grasse I wil presently proue both maior and minor of this sillogisme And hold my cloake there sombody that I may go roundly to worke For I se so bumfeg the Cooper as he had bin better to haue hooped halfe the tubbes in Winchester then write against my worships pistles No ciuil maiestrat may lawfully either maime or deforme the body of Christ which is the church but whosoeuer doth abollish any lawful church officer out of the church gouernment he doth either maime or deforme the church Therefore T.C. no ciuil magistrate no prince no state may without sinn abollishe any lawfull officer together with his office out of the gouernement of the church and per consequence the offices of Archbishops and Lord bishops which her Maiestie may without sinn lawfully abollish out of the church are no lawful church officers and therefore also the church gouernment practised by Iohn Whitgift Iohn Mar-elme Richard Peterborow William of Lincolne Edmond of Worcestor yea and by that olde stealecounter masse priest Iohn O Glossester with the rest of his brethren is to be presently thrust out of the church And me thinks this geare cottons in deed my masters And I tould you T.C. that you should be thumped for defending bishops Take heed of me while you liue The minor of my last sillogisme that whosoeuer doth abollish the office of any lawfull thurch officer out of the church he either maimeth or deformeth the church I can proue with a wet finger Because euery lawful Churche officer euen by reason of his office is a member of the bodye of Christe Iesus whiche is the church and being a member of the body If the maiestrate doth displace him by abollishing his office and leaueth the place thereof voide then the maiestrate maimeth the body If he put another office vnto an officer in stead thereof he deformeth the same Because the
of the Bishops Antichristian dealing to be hidden The most part of men could not be gotten to read any thing written in the defence of the 〈◊〉 and against the other I bethought mee therefore of a way whereby men might be drawne to do both perceiuing the humors of men in these times especialy of those that are in any place to be giuen to mirth I tooke that course I might lawfully do it I for iesting is lawful by circumstances euen in the greatest matters The circumstances of time place and persons vrged me thereunto I neuer profaned the word in any iest Other mirth I vsed as a couert wherin I would bring the truth into light The Lord being the authour both of mirth and grauitie is it not lawfull in it selfe for the trueth to vse eyther of these wayes when the circumstances do make it lawful My purpose was and is to do good I know I haue don no harme howsoeuer som may iudg Martin to mar al. They are very weake one that so think In that which I haue written I know vndoubtedly that I haue done the Lord and the state of this kingdom great seruice Because I haue in som sort discouered the greatest enemies thereof And by so much the most pestilent enemies because they wound Gods relligion and corrupt the state with Atheism and loosnes and so cal for Gods vengance vppon vs all euen vnder the coulor of relligion I affirm them to be the greatest enemies that now our state hath for if it were not for them the trueth should haue more free passage herein then now it hath All states thereby would be amended and so we should not be subiect vnto Gods displeasure as now we are by reason of them Nowe let me deale with these that are in authority I do make it knowne vnto them that our bishops are the greatest enemies which we haue For they do not only go about but they haue long since fully perswaded our state that they may lawfully procure the Lord to take the sword in hand against the state if this be true haue I not said truly that they are the gretest enemies which our state hath The papistes work no such effect for they are not trusted The Atheistes haue not infected our whol state these haue The attempts of our forraine enemies may be pernicious But they are men as wee are But that God which when our bishops haue and doe make our prince and our gouernors to wadge war who is able to stand against him Wel to the point many haue put her maiestie the parliament counsell in minde that the church officers now among vs are not such as the Lord aloweth of because they are not of his owne ordaininge They haue shewed that this falt is to be amended or the Lords hand to be looked for The bishops on the otherside haue cried out vpon them that haue thus dutifully mooued the state They with a loud voice gaue out that the maiestrat may lawfully maintaine that church gouerment which best fitteth our estate as liuing in the time of peace What do they else herein but say that the magestrat in time of peace may maime and deforme the body of Christ his church That Christ hath left the gouerment of his own house vnperfect and left the same to the discretion of the magestrate wheras Moses before whome in this point of gouernment the Lord Christ is iustly preferred Heb. 3.6 made the gouernment of the legal politie so perfcet as he left not any parte thereof to the discretion of the magestrate Can they deny church officers to be members of the church They are refuted by the expresse text 1. Cor. 12. will they affirme Christ to haue left behinde him an vnperfect body of his church wanting members at the lest wise hauing such members as were only permanent at the magestrates pleasure Why Moses the seruant otherwise gouerned the house in his time And the sonne is commended in this point for wisdome and faithfulnes before him Heb 3.6 Either then that commendation of the sonn before the seruant is a false testimony or the sonne ordained a permanent gouernment in his church If permanent not to be changed What then do they that hold it may be changed at the magestrates pleasure but aduise the maiestrate by his positiue lawes to proclaime that it is his will that if there shal be a church within his dominions he will maime and deforme the same He wil ordaine therein what members he thinketh good He will make it knowne that Christ vnder his gouernment shal be made lesse faithfull then Moses was That he hath left the placing of members in his body vnto the magestrate O cursed beastes that bring this guilt vppon our estate Repent Caitifes while you haue time You shal not haue it I feare when you wil. And looke you that are in authority vnto the equity of the controuersie betwene our wicked bishops and those who woulde haue the disorders of our Churche amended Take heed you be not caried away with slaunders Christs gouerment is neither Mar-prince Mar-state Mar-law nor Mar-magistrate The liuing God whose cause is pleaded for will bee reuenged of you if you giue eare vnto this slander contrary to so many testimonies as are brought out of his word to prooue the contrary He denounceth his wrath against all you that thinke it lawfull for you to maim or deform his church he accounteth his Churche maimed when those offices are therein placed whiche hee hath not appointed to be members thereof he also testifieth that there be no mēbers of his appointment in the Churche but such as he himselfe hath named in his word and those that he hath named man must not displace for so he shoulde put the bodie out of ioynt Nowe our bishops holding the contrary and bearing you in hande that you may practize the contrary do they not driue you to prouoke the Lorde to anger against your owne soules And are they not your enemies They hold the contrary I say for they say that her Maiestie may alter this gouernment now established and thereby they shew either this gouerment to be vnlawfull or that the magistrat may presume to place those members in Gods Church which the Lord neuer mentioned in his word And I beseech you marke howe the case standeth betweene these wretches those whom they call puritans 1 The puritans falsely so called shew it to be vnlawfull for the magistrate to goe about to make any members for the bodie of Christ 2 They hold all officers of the Church to be members of the bodie Rom. 12.6 1. cor 12.8.28 3 And therfore they hold the altering or the abolishing of the offices of church gouernment to be the altering abolishing of the members of the Church 4 The altering abolishing of which members they holde to be vnlawfull because it must needs be a maime vnto the bodie 5 They hold Christ Iesus to haue set downe as
Hay any worke for Cooper Or a briefe Pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende Byshopps counselling them if they will needs be barrelled vp for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie the State that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin for the prouiding of their Cooper Because the reuerend T.C. by which misticall letters is vnderstood eyther the bounsing Parson of Eastmeane or Tom Coakes his Chaplaine to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull tubtrimmer Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned Pistles and makes the Coopers hoopes to flye off and the Bishops Tubs to leake out of all crye Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane Printed in Europe not farre from some of the Bounsing Priestes A man of worshipp to the men of worship that is Martin Marprelate gentleman Primate Metropolitane of all the Martins whersoeuer To the Iohn of al the sir Iohns and to the rest of the terrible priests saith haue among you once againe my cleargie masters For O Brethren there is such a deal of loue growne of late I perceiue betweene you and me that although I would be negligent in sending my Pistles vnto you yet I see you cannot forget me I thought you to bee verye kinde when you sent your Purcivaunts about the countrie to seeke for me But now that you your selues haue taken the paines to write this is out of all crie Why it passes to thinke what louing carefull brethren I haue who although I cannot be gotten to tell them where I am because I loue not the ayre of the Clinke or Gate-house in this colde time of Winter and by reason of my busines in Pistlemaking will notwithstanding make it knowne vnto the world that they haue a moneths mind towards me Now truly brethren I find you kinde why ye do not know what a pleasure you haue done me My worships books were vnknowne to many before you allowed T.C. to admonishe the people of England to take heed that if they loued you they woulde make much of their prelates and the chiefe of the cleargie Now many seeke after my bookes more then euer they did Againe some knew not that our brother Iohn of Fulham was so good vnto the porter of his gate as to make the poore blinde honest soule to be a dum minister Many did not know eyther that Amen is as much as by my fayth so that our Sauiour Christe euer sware by his fayth or that bowling and eating of the Sabboth are of the same nature that Bb. may as lawfully make blinde guydes as Dauid might eate of the Shew bread or that father Thomas tubtrimmer of Winchester good old student is a master of Arts of 45. yeares standing Many I say were ignorant of these thinges and many other prettie toyes vntil you wrote this prettie booke Besides whatsoeuer you ouerpasse in my writings and did not gainsay that I hope wil be iudged to be true And so Iohn a Bridges his treason out of the 448. page of his booke you graunt to be true Your selues you denie not to bee pettie popes The B. of sir Dauids in Wales you denie not to haue two wiues with an hundred other thinges which you do not gainsay so that the reader may iudge that I am true of my worde and vse not to lye like Bb. And this hath greatly commended my worshipps good dealing But in your confutation of my book you haue shewed reuerende Martin to be truepenie in deede For you haue confyrmed rather then confuted him So that brethren the pleasure which you haue done vnto me is out of all scotche and notche And shoulde not I againe be as readie to pleasure you Naye then I shoulde be as vngrateful towards my good brethrē as Iohn of Cant. is to Thomas Cartwright The which Iohn although he hath bin greatly fauored by the said Thomas in that Thomas hath now these many yeares let him alone and said nothing vnto him for not answering his books yet is not ashamed to make a secrete comparison betweene himselfe and Thomas Cartwright As who say Iohn of Lambehith were as learned as Thomas Cartwright What say you old deane Iohn a Bridges haue not you shewed your selfe thankfull vnto hir Maiestie in ouerthrowing hir supremacie in the 448. page of your booke I will lay on load on your skincoat for this geare anon And I will haue my penyworths of all of you brethrē ere I haue done with you for this pains which your T. C hath taken with me This is the puritans craft in procuring me to be confuted I knowe I le be euen with them to A craftie whoresons brethren Bb. did you thinke because the puritans T.C. did set Iohn of Cant at a nonplus and gaue him the ouerthrow that therefore your T.C. alias Thomas Cooper bishop of Winchester or Thomas Cooke his Chaplaine could set me at a nonplus Simple fellowes me thinkes he should not I gesse your T.C. to be Thomas Cooper but I do not peremptorily affirme it because the modest olde student of 52. yeres standing setteth Winchester after Lincolne Rochester in the contents of his booke which blasphemy would not haue bin tollerated by them that saw and allowed the book vnlesse mistres Coopers husband had bin the author of it Secondly because this T.C. the author of this booke is a bishop and therefore Thomas Cooper he is a Bishop because he reckoneth him selfe charged amongst others with those crimes whereof non are accused but bishops alone pag. 101. lin 26. Ha olde Martin yet I-see thou hast it in thee thou wilt enter into the bowels of the cause in hand I perceue Nay if you wil commend me I will giue you more reasons yet The stile and the phrase is very like her husbands that was somtimes woont to write vnto doctor Day of Welles You see I can do it in deed Again non would be so groshead as to gather because my reuerence telleth Deane Iohn that he shall haue twenty fists about his eares more then his owne whereby I meant in deede that manye would write against him by reason of his bomination learning which otherwise neuer ment to take pen hand that I threatned him with blowes and to deale by stafford law Whereas that was far from my meaning and could by no means be gathered out of my words but only by him that pronounced Eulojin for Enlogeni in the pulpit and by him whom a papist made to beleeue that the greek word Enlogeni that is to giue thanks signifieth to make a crosse in the forhead py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh to thinke that an olde soaking student in this learned age is not ashamed to be so impudent as to presume to deale with a papist when he hath no grue in his pocked But I promise you Sir it is no shame to
I assure you no other then this he flattly denieth the coiclusion wheras he might if he had any learning in him or had read any thing know that euery dunstical logician giueth this for an inuiolable precept that the conclusion is not to be denied For that must needs be true if the maior and minor be true he in omitting the maior and minor because he was not able to answere thereby granteth the conclusion to be true His answeare vnto the conclusion is that al lord Gb. were not pety popes Because pag. 74. Cranmer Ridly Hooper were not petty Popes They were not pety popes because they were not reprobates As though you block you euery petty pope and petty Antichrist were a reprobate Why no man can deny Gregory the great to be a pettye Pope and a petty petty Antichrist For he was the next immediate pope before Boniface the first that knowne Antichrist and yet this Gregory left behind him vndoubted testimonies of a chosen childe of God so might they yet be petty Popes in respecte of their office Profane T.C. his 1. and 2. reason for the lawfulnes of our church gouerment And what though good men gaue their consent vnto our church gouernement or writing vnto bishops gaue them their lordly titles Are their offices therefore lawfull then soe is the popes office For Erasmus was a good man you cannot deny and yet he both alowed of the popes office since his calling and writing vnto him gaue him his titles So did Luther since his calling also for he dedicated his booke of christian liberty vnto pope Leo the tenth The booke his Epistle vnto the Pope are both in Englishe Here I would wish the magistrat to marke what good reasons you are able to afford for your hierarchie Thirdly saith profane T.C. page 75. All Churches haue not the gouernment of Pastors and Doctors but Saxoni and Denmake haue L. bishops You are a great State man vndoubtedly T.C. that vnderstand the state of other Churches so well But herein the impudencie of a proude foole appeareth egregiously As though the testimonie of a siely Schoolemaster being also as vnlearned as a man of that trade and profession can be with any honestie would be belieued against knowne experience Yea but Saxonie and Denmarke haue Superintendents what then ergo L. Archb. and bishops I deny it Though other Churches had L. Archb. and Bb. this prooueth nothing els but that other Churches are maimed and haue their imperfections Your reason is this other good Churches are deformed therefore ours must needes be so to The kings sonne is lame therefore the children of no subiects must go vpright And these be all the good reasons which you can bring for the gouerment of Archb. and bishops against the gouerment of Christ You reson thus It must not be admitted into this kingdome because then Ciuillians shal not be able to liue in that estimation and welth wherein they now do Carnal and sensles beastes whoe are not ashamed to prefer the outward estate of men before the glory of Christs kingdom Here againe let the magestrate and other readers consider whether it be not time that such brutish men should be looked vnto Which reason thus The body of Christ which is the church must needes be maimed and deformed in this common welth because otherwise ciuillians should not be able to liue Why you enemies to the state you traytors to God and his worde you Mar-prince Mar-law Mar-magestrate Mar-church and Mar-common welth do you not know that the worlde should rather go a begging then that the glory of god by maiming his church should be defaced Who can abide this indignity The prince and state must procure god to wrath against them by continuing the deformity of his church and it may not be otherwise because the ciuilians els must fall to decay I wil tel you what you monstrous vngodly bishops though I had no feare of God before mine eies and had no hope of a better life yet the loue that I owe as a natural man vnto her maiestie and the state would inforce me to write against you her maiestie and this kingdome whome the Lord blesse with his mighty hand I vnfainedly beseech must endanger them selues vnder the peril of Gods heauy wrath rather then the maime of our church gouernment must be healed for we had rather it should be so say our bishops then wee should be thrust out for if we should be thrust out the studie of the ciuil lawe must needs goe to wrack Well if I had liued sometimes a citizen in that olde and auncient though heathenish Rome and had heard kinge D●iotarus Cesar yea or Pompei himself giue out this spech namely that the citty and empire of Rome must needes be brought subiect vnto some danger because otherwise Catelin Lentulus Cethegus with other of the nobilitie could not tell how to liue but must needs go a begging I woulde surely in the loue I ought to the safetie of that state haue called him that had vsed such a speech in judicium capitis whosoeuer he had bin and I woulde not haue doubted to haue giuen him the ouerthrow And shal I being a christian English subiect abide to heare a wicked crue of vngodly bishopps with their hangones and parasites affirme that our Queene and our State must needs be subiect vnto the greatest daunger that may be vz. the wrath of God for deforming his Church and that Gods Church must needes be maimed and deformed among vs because otherwise a few Ciuillians shal not be able to liue Shall I heare and see these thinges professed and published and in the loue I owe vnto Gods religion and her Maiesty say nothing I cannot I will not I may not be silent at this speech come what will come of it The loue of a christian Church prince and state shal I trust worke more in me then the loue of a heathen Empire and state should do Now iudge good reader who is more tollerable in a commonwealth Martin that would haue the enemies of her Maiesty remoued thence or our bishops which would haue her life and the whole kingdomes prosperitie hazarded rather then a few Ciuillians should want maintenance But I praye thee tell me T.C. why should the gouernment of Christ impouerish Ciuillians Because saith he pag. 77. the Canon law by which they liue must be altered if that were admitted Yea but Ciuillians liue by the court of Amraltie other courts as well as by the Arches vz. also the probatts of Testaments the controuersies of tythes matrimonie and many other causes which you bishops Mar-state do vsurpingly take from the ciuill magistrate would be a means of Ciuillians maintenance But are not you ashamed to professe your whole gouernment to be a gouernment ruled by the Popes Canon lawes which are bannished by statute out of this kingdome This notably sheweth that you are Mar-prince and Mar-state For howe dare you retaine