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A57825 Five speeches in the High and Honourable Court of Parliament by Sir Benjamin Rudyerd ... ; printed according to his owne true copies, the former being absurdly false.; Speeches. Selections Rudyerd, Benjamin, Sir, 1572-1658. 1641 (1641) Wing R2184; ESTC R12031 12,505 32

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government of the State Every man can say it is so common and known a truch that sudden and great changes both in naturall and politique bodies have dangerous operations and give me leave to say that we cannot presently see to the end of such a consequence especially in so great a kingdom as this and where Episcopacie is so wrap dane involv'd in the Laws of it Wherefore Master Speaker my humble motion is That we may punish the present offenders reduce and preserve the Calling for better men hereafter Let us remember with fresh thankfulnesse to God those glorious Martyr Bishops who were burn'd for our Religion in the times of Popery who by their learning zeal and constancle uphold and convay'd it down to us We have some good Bishops still who do preach every Lords Day and are therefore worthy of double honour They have suffer'd enough already in the disease I shall be forry we should make them suffer more in the remedy Concerning BISHOPS DEANES AND CHAPTERS At a Committee of the whole House by Sir Beniamin Rudyerd M. Hyde WE are now upon a very great businesse so great indeed as it requires our soundest our saddest consideration our best iudgement for the present our utmost foresight for the futuer But Sir One thing doth exceedingly trouble me it turnes me quite round it makes my whole reason vertiginous which is that so many doe beleeve against the wisdom of all ages that now there can he no reformation without destruction as if every sick body must presently be knock'd in the head as past hope of cure Religion was first and best planted in Cities God did spread his net where most might be caught Cities had Bishops and Presbiters Presbiters were the Seminaries out of which were sent labourers by the Bishops to propagate and cultivate the Gospell The Clergy then liv'd wholly upon the free-will-offerings and bounty of the people Afterward when Kings and States grew to be Christians the outward settlement of the church grew up with them They erected Bishopricks founded Cathedrall churches endowed them with large possessions Land lords built parish churches gleabd them with some portion of land for which they have still a right of Presentation I do confesse that some Bishops have had ambitious dangerous aymes and have so still That in their government there are very great Enormities Regeneration doth neither destroy the man nor the faculties but doth rectifie and reforme them so the calling of Bishops may c. But I am not of their opinion who beleeve that there is an innate ill quallity in Episcopacy like a specificall property which is a refuge not a reason I hope there is no originall sin in Episcopacie and though there were yet may the Calling be aswell reformed as the person regenerated Bishops have govern'd the church for fifteene hundred yeeres without interruption and no man will say But that God hath saved soules in all those times under their government Let them be reduced according to the usage of ancient Churches in the best times so restrayned as they may not be able hereafter to shame the calling I love not those that hate to be reformed and doe therefore thinke them worthy of the more strict the more close reformation We have often complaind that Bishops are too absolute too singular Although Cathedrall churches are now for the most part but receptacles of Droanes and Non-residents yet some good men may be found or placed there to be Assessours with the Bishops to assist them in actions of moment in causes of importance There is maintenance already provided for them If either in Bishopricks or Cathedrall churches there be too much some may be pared off to relieve them that have to little If yet more may be spared it may be employed to the setting up of a preaching ministery thorow the whole kingdome and untill this be done although we are Christians yet are we not a Christian State There are some places in England that are not in Christendome the people are so ignorant they live so without God in the world for which Parliaments are to answer both to God and man let us looke to it for it lyes like one of the Burdens of the Prophet Esay heavy and flat upon Parliaments I have oftentimes seriously considered with my selfe what strong concurrent motives and causes did meet together in that time when Abbeyes and Monasteryes were overthrown Certainly Gods hand was the greatest for he was most offended The prophane superstitions the abhominable Idolatryes the filthy nefandous wickednesse of their lifes did stink in Gods nostriles did call downe for vengeance for reformation A good party of Religious men were zealous instruments in that great work As likewise many covetous ambitious Persons gaping for fat morsells did lustily drive it on But Master Hyde there was a principall Parliamentary motive which did facillitate the rest For it was propounded in Parliament that the Accession of Abbey lands would so in-rich the crowne as the people should never be put to pay Subsidies againe this was plausable both to court and country besides with the overplus there should be mainteyned a standing army of forty thousand men for a perpetuall defence of the kingdome this was safety at home terrour and honour abroad The Parliament would make all sure Gods part Religion by his blessing hath been reasonably well preserv'd but it hath been saved an by fire for the rest is consum'd and vanish'd The people have paid Subsidies ever since and we are now in no very good case to pay an Army Let us beware Master Hyde that we do not look with a worldly carnall evill eye upon church lands Let us cleare our sight search our hearts that we may have unmixt and sincere ends without the least thought of saving our own purses Church lands will still be fittest to maintaine church men by a proportionable and orderly distribution We are very strict and curious to uphold our own propriety and there is great reason for it Are the Clergy only a sort of men who have no propriety at all in that which is called theirs I am sure they are Englishmen they are Subiects If we pull down Bishopricks and pull down Cathedrall churches in a short time we must be forc'd to pull downe Colledges too for schollers will live and die there as in cells if there be no considerable preferment to invite them abroad and the example we are making now will be an easie temptation to the lesse pressing necessities of future times This is the next way to bring in Barbarisine to make the Clergy an unlearnd contemptible vocation not to be desir'd but by the basest of the people and then where shall we finde men able to convince an adversary A Clergy man ought to have a farre greater proportion to live upon then any other man of an equall condition He is not bred to multiply Three-pences it becomes him not to live mechanically and sordidly He must be given to hospitality I do know my selfe a Clergy man nodignitary whose books have cost him a thousand pounds which when he dyes may be worth to his wife and children about some two hundred It will be a shamefull reproach to so flourishing a kingdom as this to have a poore beggerly Clergy For my part I think nothing too much nothing too good for a good minister a good Clergy man They ought least to want who best know how to abound Burning and shining lights do well deserve to bee set in good candlesticks Master Hyde I am as much for reformation for purging and maintaining Religion as any man whatsoever But I professe I am not for Innovation Demolition nor Abolition FINIS
FIVE SPEECHES IN THE HIGH AND HONOVRABLE Court of PARLIAMENT BY Sir Beniamin Rudyerd Knight Surveighour of his Maiesties Court of Wards and Liveries Printed according to his owne true Copies the former being absurdly false Now published with Licence LONDON Printed by H. Dudley for Henry Seile at the Tygers head in Fleetstreet over against Saint Dunstan's-Church 1641. AN INTRODVCTION to the last Parliament 16. Caroli 1640. Concerning moderation and preservation of Parliaments by Sir Beniamin Rudyerd Knight 16. Caroli 1640. Master Speaker BY Gods blessing and the Kings savour a great door and effectuall is opened unto us of doing a great deal of good if we do not shut in against our selves That we are here together in this House is an evident demonstration that the Kings heart stands right towards us for which we do owe him a thankfull a dutifull a bountifull retribution Parliaments of later times have been disastrous and unfortunate insomuch as the very Name of a Parliament hath been a reproach a by word a hissing It now lyes in our hands by Gods assistance and it ought to be our chiefe indeavour to restore Parliaments to their wonted luster There are some here in this House who were present and many who do 〈◊〉 remember when the first Parliament was broken that ever was broken in England we know from what 〈◊〉 it 〈◊〉 and of the most part the same Genius hath prevailed ever since full of subtilty full of malignity But now they have taken upon them such a boldnesse such an arrogance as they stand in competition with us who are the better subiects And some beleeve they have carried it their emulation I shall like and do hope but their presumption is not to be born for certainly the best religion makes the best subiects I wish them no harm for I wish their conversion and 〈◊〉 harsh way to it Let us set up more and better Light to lighten their darknesse burning shining Lights not luke warm glow-worm Lights that the people in all places of the kingdom may be diligently taught carefully instructed in soundnesse of doctrine by good example 〈◊〉 their Pastors taught and instructed to hear prayers how to use prayers for whosoever 〈◊〉 made the quarrell between praying and preaching never meant well to religion being both so necessary duties not defranding one another But I know not how it come about that in out religion onely a man may I be too religious The best way to suppresse all other religions is to up hold our own to the height Light dispells darknes without noise or bussle But I never yet know any man beaten him an opinion I have known many frighted into dissimulation A almosity and faintnesse becomes no Religion Although 〈…〉 we have bad 〈…〉 that by their ●●nning working or distempers in this House and by their 〈◊〉 working upon these distempers out or the House they have contributed as much to the breaking of Parliaments as any thing 〈◊〉 whatsoever yet bamlperswade to they will not be so active in this because of their common Interest with us as Sulli●●●● as Englishmen there being now such a general necessity of having a whole a happy 〈…〉 Howsoever it will be wisdom in us to be ware of Insusions to keep steady to our temper The maine cause of the infelicity and destraction of these times hath been the frequent breaking of Parliaments beleeve 〈◊〉 Master Speaker the splinters of a broken Parliament do make the most dangerous wounds in the body Politique which having so long festerd must be puld out with skilfull gentle hand else they may rather vex then cure the wounds they have made But we need not despaire of a cure For in the fourteenth yeare of Edward the third That King had great summes of money granted him in Parliament by way of Subsidie for an expedition into France the went over entred into a way but the ill managing of his treasure at home by his Officers and the withdrawing of some payments is by the people for not performance of conditions enforced him to accept of a truce when he was in the full hope of gayning a great victory this could not but work strongly upon that great-hearted Prince He returned Presently in the fifteenth yeer he summon'd a Parliament wherin were nothing but iealousies contestations distempers so that the Parliament ended without fruit In the 17th yeer he called another Parliament for no other end but only to make an atonement between him his people which intention wrought the successe for by the prudence and patience of the king by the wisdom and humblenesse of both Houses all breaches were clos'd up and such a perfect union made as there never fell out any difference betweene him and his people during the whole time of his long life after Why may not wee be as wise round I presume we shall A Parliament is the bed of reconcilation between a King and his people mutually best for both so that it will be proper and fit for us to lay aside all acerbity and exasperation To demeane our selves with calmnesse sweetnesse dutyfullnesse Although the Prerogative have gone very high yet if we can but bring our selves to an equanimity to an indifferency of iudgement we shall finde that all kings do as naturally love power as all people do affect liberty Then is it no more marvaile that Princes do hearken to them who seek to improve their power then that Parliaments have too much yeilded to some who have pressed to cut end their liberty whereas indeed both Prerogative and liberty are best preserved when they are executed within their bounds The Law saith That a King of England can do no wrong As for instruments If the matters do start and expose the men if the things they have misdone be condemned and reformed the men without my more a do will quickly be despised grow as use lesse as they are worthles wither and wear away to the nothing they deserve It is true that in some times examples are more necessary then Lawes especially when Lawes grow infirme for want of exercise because examples make a deeper impression strike a greater terror But at this time we should very unhand somly celebrate the Redintegration and union we desire and expect with unsutable severity and extremities The levying of money to releeve the Kings necessities hath also bred a great disturbance it will do so for the pe●●…ry and scarcity of the Crown will keep a perpetuall inter feering between the King and his people untill it be supplied The power of a King and the power of necessity ioyned both in one hand Master 〈◊〉 will not long be disappointed But I doe hope before this Parliament be finally concluded we shall establish such a constant Revenue to his Maiestie as shall enable him to live plentifully 〈◊〉 at home for a high formidable 〈…〉 upon him 〈◊〉 and that without ●●king any thing away from him but such things only as wil