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A43711 Bonasus vapulans, or, Some castigations given to Mr. John Durell for fouling himself and others in his English and Latin book by a country scholar. Hickman, Henry, d. 1692.; Durel, John, 1625-1683. 1672 (1672) Wing H1908; ESTC R34462 60,749 139

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