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a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v that_o he_o can_v not_o omit_v those_o business_n without_o the_o omit_v of_o his_o duty_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n do_v he_o speak_v in_o that_o treatise_n that_o be_v among_o his_o episile_n in_o number_n a_o hundred_o and_o ten_o where_o he_o desire_v the_o people_n that_o they_o will_v not_o mole_v he_o for_o the_o space_n of_o fyve_o day_n with_o their_o worldly_a matter_n by_o reason_n of_o certain_a business_n commit_v unto_o he_o as_o it_o appear_v in_o these_o word_n it_o please_v i_o and_o you_o for_o the_o care_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o the_o brethren_n and_o father_n my_o fellow_n bishop_n dydde_v vouchsafe_v to_o lay_v upon_o i_o in_o 110._o ang._n epi._n 110._o the_o counsel_n of_o numidia_n and_o carthage_n for_o the_o space_n of_o fyve_o day_n no_o man_n shall_v trouble_v i_o these_o thing_n be_v propound_v you_o be_v content_a your_o decree_n and_o consent_n be_v rehearse_v it_o be_v keep_v but_o a_o small_a time_n and_o 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into_o error_n etc._n etc._n here_o you_o do_v either_o ignorant_o tyrant_n difference_n betwixt_o a_o king_n and_o a_o tyrant_n or_o wilful_o confound_v monarchiam_fw-la with_o tyranny_n for_o betwixt_o a_o king_n and_o a_o tyrant_n this_o be_v one_o difference_n that_o a_o king_n rule_v according_a to_o the_o law_n that_o be_v prescribe_v for_o he_o to_o rule_v by_o and_o according_a to_o equity_n and_o reason_n a_o tyrant_n do_v what_o he_o listen_v follow_v his_o own_o affection_n contemn_v law_n and_o say_v sic_fw-la volo_fw-la sic_fw-la iubeo_fw-la stat_fw-la pro_fw-la ratione_fw-la voluntas_fw-la so_o i_o will_v so_o i_o command_v my_o pleasure_n stand_v for_o reason_n now_o therefore_o to_o use_v those_o reason_n to_o overthrow_v a_o lawful_a monarchy_n which_o be_v only_o proper_a to_o wicked_a tyranny_n be_v either_o close_o to_o accuse_v the_o government_n of_o this_o church_n of_o england_n of_o tyranny_n or_o malicious_o by_o subtle_a deal_n and_o confound_v of_o state_n 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i_o answer_v that_o it_o have_v be_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o contrary_a until_o such_o time_n as_o it_o be_v turn_v into_o tyranny_n as_o by_o all_o ecclesiastical_a story_n and_o writer_n it_o may_v appear_v and_o namely_o by_o these_o two_o cyprian_a and_o jerome_n in_o all_o that_o decretal_a part_n 2._o c._n 9_o quaest_n 3._o note_v in_o your_o margin_n there_o be_v nothing_o archbishop_n the_o place_n c_o ed_z by_o t._n c_o make_v for_o the_o archbishop_n against_o any_o form_n of_o government_n use_v by_o the_o archbyshoppe_n in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n but_o in_o plain_a and_o manifest_a word_n both_o the_o name_n and_o office_n of_o the_o archebishoppe_n be_v there_o maintain_v and_o approve_v and_o i_o wish_v that_o the_o learned_a reader_n will_v peruse_v over_o all_o that_o part_n of_o gratian_n then_o shall_v he_o easy_o perceyve_v your_o faithfulness_n in_o allege_v authority_n and_o though_o it_o be_v somewhat_o tedious_a yet_o that_o the_o unlearned_a also_o 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they_o to_o this_o order_n &_o the_o far_a of_o they_o be_v from_o those_o tune_n until_o the_o discover_n of_o the_o son_n of_o perdition_n the_o further_o off_o be_v they_o from_o this_o moderation_n and_o the_o nearet_n they_o come_v to_o that_o tyranny_n and_o ambitious_a power_n which_o oppress_v and_o overlay_v the_o church_n of_o god_n io._n whitgifte_n indeed_o this_o be_v one_o part_n of_o the_o office_n of_o the_o archbishop_n and_o bishop_n but_o not_o the_o whole_a no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v of_o james_n be_v bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n nor_o of_o he_o who_o justine_n call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o your_o chief_a purpose_n now_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o this_o office_n be_v not_o perpetual_a but_o changeable_a at_o every_o action_n and_o durable_a only_o continue_v that_o action_n which_o how_o sound_o you_o have_v do_v and_o with_o what_o strange_a argument_n every_o child_n that_o have_v discretion_n may_v judge_v chap._n 3._o the._n 50._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 86._o sect._n 1_o and_o therefore_o m._n caluine_n do_v wary_o say_v that_o one_o among_o the_o apostle_n indefinite_o not_o any_o one_o singular_a person_n as_o peter_n have_v the_o moderation_n and_o rule_n of_o the_o other_o and_o further_o shadow_v out_o what_o rule_n that_o be_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o have_v the_o the_o archbishop_n content_v himself_o with_o less_a authori_fw-la ie_fw-fr than_a the_o co_n sul_n have_v consul_n of_o rome_n who_o authority_n be_v to_o gather_v the_o senate_n together_o and_o to_o tell_v of_o the_o matter_n which_o be_v to_o be_v handle_v to_o gather_v the_o voice_n to_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n and_o although_o the_o antichrist_n of_o rome_n have_v pervert_v all_o good_a order_n and_o take_v all_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n into_o his_o hand_n the_o cardinal_n archbyshop_n and_o bishop_n yet_o there_o be_v some_o cold_a and_o light_a footing_n of_o it_o in_o our_o synod_n which_o be_v hold_v with_o the_o parliament_n where_o 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be_v invent_v in_o sect_n pag._n 82._o sect_n what_o book_n it_o be_v contain_v so_o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a and_o con_v onant_n to_o god_n word_n and_o you_o report_v they_o thus_o whence_o soever_o this_o or_o that_o come_v so_o it_o be_v not_o evil_a it_o may_v be_v well_o establish_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ._n if_o you_o have_v the_o truth_n why_o do_v you_o thus_o go_v about_o to_o maintain_v it_o with_o lie_n in_o so_o do_v you_o hurt_v not_o i_o but_o yourself_o and_o your_o cause_n ¶_o a_o examination_n of_o the_o particular_a fault_n either_o in_o matter_n or_o form_n wherewith_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n be_v charge_v chap._n 2._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 105._o sect._n 3_o now_o i_o come_v to_o the_o form_n of_o prayer_n which_o be_v prescribe_v wherein_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n declare_v that_o their_o meaning_n be_v not_o to_o disallow_v of_o prescript_n service_n of_o prayer_n but_o of_o this_o foe_n rme_n 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8._o 26_o 1._o tim._n 1._o 2_o move_v they_o so_o they_o pour_v forth_o hearty_a supplication_n to_o the_o lord_n now_o they_o be_v find_v of_o necessity_n to_o a_o seven_o a_o damasus_n the_o first_o inventor_n of_o this_o stuff_n well_o further_v by_o gregory_n the_o seven_o prescripte_n order_n of_o service_n and_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 77._o sect._n 3_o to_o prove_v that_o minister_n be_v not_o so_o tie_v to_o any_o form_n of_o prayer_n invent_v by_o man_n but_o that_o as_o the_o spirit_n move_v they_o etc._n etc._n you_o quote_v rom._n 8._o &_o the_o 1._o timo._n 1._o in_o the_o eight_o to_o the_o roman_n the_o word_n be_v these_o likewise_o also_o the_o spirit_n help_v our_o infirmity_n for_o we_o know_v not_o what_o to_o pray_v as_o we_o ought_v but_o the_o spirit_n itself_o make_v request_n for_o we_o with_o fighe_n which_o can_v be_v express_v this_o place_n speak_v nothing_o against_o any_o prescript_n form_n of_o prayer_n for_o than_o it_o shall_v disallow_v the_o lord_n prayer_n but_o it_o teach_v we_o that_o it_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n that_o stur_v we_o up_o to_o pray_v and_o make_v we_o earnest_o pour_v out_o our_o supplication_n unto_o god_n and_o thus_o the_o spirit_n work_v as_o well_o by_o prescript_n prayer_n as_o by_o prayer_n sudden_o invent_v the_o word_n to_o timothy_n epist._n 1._o ca._n 1._o vers_fw-la 2._o be_v far_o fetch_v &_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n the_o word_n be_v these_o unto_o timothy_n my_o natural_a son_n in_o the_o faith_n grace_n mercy_n and_o peace_n from_o god_n our_o father_n and_o from_o christ_n jesu_n our_o lord_n what_o make_v these_o word_n against_o any_o prescript_n form_n of_o
and_o that_o there_o will_v not_o be_v want_v some_o probable_a colour_n also_o whereby_o these_o thing_n may_v be_v defend_v if_o man_n will_v set_v themselves_o to_o strive_v and_o to_o contend_v yet_o for_o the_o desire_n that_o i_o have_v that_o these_o thing_n shall_v be_v amend_v and_o for_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o simple_a which_o be_v studious_a of_o the_o truth_n i_o have_v be_v bold_a to_o utter_v that_o which_o i_o think_v not_o doubt_v also_o but_o that_o the_o light_n of_o the_o truth_n shall_v be_v able_a to_o scatter_v all_o those_o mist_n of_o reason_n which_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o darken_v the_o clearness_n thereof_o io._n whitgifte_n sure_o if_o the_o blotte_n be_v so_o manifest_a as_o you_o will_v seem_v to_o make_v they_o it_o be_v not_o wise_o do_v of_o you_o so_o slender_o to_o pass_v they_o over_o you_o do_v well_o to_o think_v that_o this_o treatise_n of_o you_o touch_v prayer_n will_v be_v subject_a to_o prayer_n the_o pith_n of_o the_o reply_n 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god_n neither_o have_v you_o for_o all_o that_o be_v speak_v against_o the_o form_n of_o prayer_n allege_v one_o text_n of_o scripture_n or_o one_o sentence_n of_o any_o ancient_a or_o late_a writer_n and_o do_v you_o think_v that_o man_n will_v believe_v you_o upon_o your_o bare_a word_n against_o so_o many_o martyr_n and_o learned_a man_n as_o have_v allow_v and_o do_v allow_v that_o book_n your_o credit_n be_v not_o so_o great_a as_o you_o think_v it_o be_v and_o that_o which_o you_o have_v when_o you_o be_v according_o detect_v will_v utter_o vanish_v and_o fade_v away_o of_o baptism_n by_o woman_n wherewith_o the_o communion_n book_n be_v false_o charge_v chap._n 3._o the._n 1._o division_n admonition_n in_o which_o a_o great_a number_n of_o thing_n contrary_a to_o god_n word_n be_v contain_v as_o baptism_n 198._o baptism_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 1_o co._n 14._o 35_o the_o first_o appoynter_n hereof_o be_v vietor_n 1._o anno._n 198._o by_o woman_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 79._o sect._n 2._o 3._o 4._o 5._o book_n all_o prayer_n good_a in_o the_o communion_n book_n but_o you_o say_v a_o number_n of_o thing_n contrary_a unto_o god_n word_n be_v contain_v in_o this_o book_n as_o baptism_n by_o woman_n etc._n etc._n here_o be_v not_o one_o prayer_n in_o all_o the_o communion_n book_n find_v fault_n with_o and_o yet_o your_o quarrel_n be_v against_o a_o prescript_n form_n of_o prayer_n invent_v by_o man_n you_o marueylous_o forget_v yourself_o and_o confuse_o go_v from_o matter_n to_o matter_n without_o any_o consideration_n digress_v therefore_o from_o prayer_n contain_v in_o the_o communion_n book_n you_o come_v to_o other_o matter_n in_o the_o same_o against_o god_n word_n as_o you_o say_v and_o first_o you_o allege_v baptise_v by_o woman_n i_o deny_v baptise_v by_o woman_n to_o be_v express_v in_o that_o book_n and_o when_o you_o have_v prove_v it_o to_o be_v necessary_o gather_v out_o of_o the_o same_o then_o shall_v you_o hear_v my_o judgement_n thereof_o t._n c._n pag._n 109._o sect._n 4._o master_n doctor_n require_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v prove_v unto_o he_o that_o by_o pryvate_a baptism_n be_v mean_v baptism_n by_o woman_n first_o it_o be_v mean_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v do_v by_o some_o other_o than_o the_o minister_n for_o that_o the_o minister_n be_v bid_v to_o give_v they_o warning_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o baptise_v the_o child_n at_o home_n in_o their_o house_n without_o great_a cause_n and_o necessity_n secondary_o i_o will_v glad_o ask_v he_o who_o they_o be_v that_o be_v present_a when_o the_o child_n be_v so_o short_o after_o it_o be_v bear_v in_o great_a danger_n of_o death_n and_o last_o of_o all_o master_n doctor_n do_v not_o see_v how_o he_o accuse_v all_o the_o magistrate_n of_o this_o realm_n of_o the_o neglect_n of_o their_o duty_n in_o that_o they_o allow_v of_o the_o daily_o practise_v by_o woman_n in_o baptise_v child_n if_o so_o be_v that_o the_o book_n do_v not_o so_o appoint_v it_o or_o permit_v it_o if_o he_o nt_v plain_o herein_o there_o need_v not_o so_o much_o a_o do_v io._n whitgifte_n here_o be_v nothing_o say_v which_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n have_v not_o allege_v before_o either_o in_o their_o book_n or_o in_o their_o addition_n and_o therefore_o the_o same_o answer_n that_o be_v make_v unto_o they_o will_v serve_v for_o you_o i_o tell_v you_o there_o private_a why_o baptism_n be_v call_v private_a that_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n do_v call_v it_o private_a baptism_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o place_n which_o be_v a_o private_a house_n and_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o minister_n which_o evident_o appear_v in_o these_o word_n which_o you_o yourself_o allege_v in_o this_o place_n that_o be_v that_o the_o minister_n be_v bid_v to_o give_v they_o warning_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o baptise_v the_o child_n at_o home_n in_o their_o house_n etc._n etc._n but_o you_o can_v thereof_o conclude_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o book_n to_o be_v that_o woman_n shall_v baptise_v for_o even_o in_o that_o necessity_n the_o curate_n may_v be_v send_v for_o or_o some_o other_o minister_n that_o may_v soon_o be_v come_v by_o your_o question_n be_v soon_o answer_v for_o no_o man_n doubt_v of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v present_a at_o such_o a_o time_n but_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o that_o when_o such_o necessity_n require_v the_o curate_n or_o the_o next_o minister_n be_v soon_o send_v for_o as_o often_o time_n he_o be_v in_o as_o great_a extremity_n as_o that_o and_o what_o a_o reason_n call_v you_o this_o woman_n be_v present_a when_o the_o child_n that_o be_v bear_v be_v in_o great_a danger_n of_o death_n therefore_o the_o minister_n can_v be_v send_v for_o to_o baptise_v the_o child_n to_o your_o objection_n of_o the_o magistrate_n allow_v the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v by_o woman_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o your_o general_a proposition_n be_v untrue_a as_o i_o think_v for_o all_o the_o magistrate_n of_o this_o realm_n do_v not_o so_o second_o that_o if_o they_o do_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o do_v it_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o book_n for_o many_o thing_n be_v permit_v as_o tolerable_a which_o be_v not_o establish_v by_o any_o law_n and_o therefore_o if_o you_o have_v do_v well_o you_o shall_v rather_o have_v reprove_v the_o custom_n that_o do_v use_v it_o than_o the_o book_n that_o speak_v never_o a_o word_n of_o it_o i_o deal_v as_o plain_o as_o i_o can_v for_o i_o keep_v i_o to_o the_o book_n but_o your_o vain_a conjecture_n and_o frivolous_a reason_n against_o that_o book_n may_v not_o be_v yield_v unto_o but_o open_v that_o they_o may_v appear_v in_o their_o colour_n chap._n 3._o the._n 2._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 79._o sect._n ult._n your_o place_n of_o scripture_n allege_v against_o it_o be_v not_o of_o sufficient_a argument_n feeble_n argument_n force_n to_o prove_v your_o purpose_n christ_n in_o the._n 28._o of_o matthew_n say_v to_o his_o disciple_n go_v and_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_a they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la woman_n may_v not_o baptise_v i_o say_v this_o argument_n follow_v not_o no_o more_o than_o this_o do_v ergo_fw-la pastor_n may_v not_o baptise_v for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o a_o apostle_n be_v dislincte_n from_o a_o pastor_n t._n c._n pag._n 109._o sect._n 5._o the_o place_n of_o the._n 28._o of_o saint_n matthew_n be_v as_o strong_a against_o woman_n baptise_v as_o it_o be_v against_o their_o preach_n for_o 〈◊〉_d for_o untruth_n 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v pull_v in_o sunder_o which_o y_o e_z lord_n have_v join_v together_o from_o time_n to_o time_n for_o
then_o come_v it_o neither_o from_o the_o papist_n nor_o yet_o from_o the_o gentile_n but_o whensoever_o this_o begin_v or_o from_o who_o soever_o it_o be_v take_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n have_v always_o be_v think_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n by_o all_o such_o as_o have_v not_o divide_v themselves_o by_o any_o schism_n or_o heresy_n from_o the_o same_o chap._n 5._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n 4._o now_o i_o return_v to_o the_o example_n of_o sephora_n and_o say_v that_o the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o that_o fact_n do_v appear_v sufficient_o in_o that_o she_o do_v it_o himself_o it_o mose_n by_o reason_n of_o sickness_n be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v it_o himself_o before_o her_o husband_n moses_n which_o be_v a_o prophet_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o 1_o and_o this_o be_v contrary_a to_o that_o he_o have_v pag._n 17_o sect._n 1_o to_o who_o that_o office_n of_o circumcision_n do_v appertain_v so_o that_o unless_o m._n doctor_n will_v have_v midwife_n baptise_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o the_o minister_n there_o be_v no_o cause_n why_o he_o shall_v allege_v this_o place_n beside_o that_o she_o do_v cut_v of_o the_o fore_a skin_n of_o the_o infante_n not_o of_o mind_n to_o obey_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n or_o for_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o child_n but_o in_o a_o choler_n only_o to_o the_o end_n that_o her_o husband_n may_v be_v ease_v and_o have_v release_v which_o mind_n appear_v in_o she_o both_o by_o her_o word_n and_o by_o cast_v away_o in_o anger_n the_o foreskinne_n which_o she_o have_v cut_v of_o and_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o event_n declare_v that_o the_o act_n please_v god_n because_o that_o moses_n forthwith_o wax_v better_a and_o be_v recover_v of_o his_o sickness_n i_o have_v show_v before_o how_o if_o we_o measure_v thing_n by_o the_o event_n we_o shall_v oftentimes_o justify_v the_o wicked_a and_o take_v the_o rightuousnesse_n of_o the_o rightuous_a from_o they_o io._n whitgifte_n in_o the._n 170._o page_z of_o your_o book_n you_o say_v that_o god_n take_v the_o priesthode_n from_o moses_n 1_o pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o and_o give_v it_o to_o aaron_n and_o now_o you_o seem_v to_o affirm_v the_o contrary_a in_o say_v that_o moses_n be_v a_o prophet_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o who_o that_o office_n of_o circumcision_n do_v apperteyne_a for_o hereby_o you_o do_v insinuate_v that_o moses_n be_v a_o priest_n moreover_o moses_n at_o this_o time_n be_v extréemely_a sick_a and_o therefore_o can_v not_o execute_v that_o office_n himself_o and_o in_o the_o geneva_n bible_n there_o be_v this_o note_n that_o it_o be_v extraordinary_a for_o moses_n be_v sore_o sick_a and_o god_n even_o then_o require_v it_o sephora_n therefore_o do_v circumcise_v in_o a_o point_n of_o extremity_n minister_v baptism_n true_a though_o not_o ordinary_o minister_v and_o not_o wilful_o or_o of_o purpose_n &_o that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o true_a circumcision_n though_o it_o be_v not_o do_v ordinary_o even_o so_o baptism_n be_v true_a baptism_n though_o it_o be_v sometime_o minister_v by_o such_o as_o be_v not_o ordinary_a minister_n the_o event_n do_v oftentimes_o declare_v the_o thing_n exitus_fw-la acta_fw-la probat_fw-la though_o not_o necessary_o but_o this_o be_v certain_a that_o these_o evente_n be_v better_a reason_n to_o justify_v the_o fact_n than_o you_o can_v she_o we_o any_o out_o of_o that_o place_n to_o the_o contrary_n chap._n 5._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 114._o sect._n 1_o an_o other_o reason_n he_o have_v which_o be_v that_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o the_o man_n whether_o he_o be_v minister_v or_o no_o minister_n good_a or_o evil_n in_o deed_n upon_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v good_a or_o a_o evil_a minister_n it_o depend_v not_o but_o on_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o no_o depend_v not_o only_o the_o dignity_n but_o also_o proof_n 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communion_n do_v thereby_o injury_n to_o his_o brother_n and_o fellow_n bishop_n by_o all_o these_o canon_n and_o ancient_a counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o from_o time_n to_o time_n even_o in_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a state_n of_o the_o church_n bishop_n alone_o have_v have_v authority_n to_o excommunicate_v and_o least_o t._n c._n shall_v here_o flee_v to_o his_o old_a shift_n and_o new_o devise_v distinction_n action_n the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_v alone_o not_o as_o rator_n of_o the_o action_n that_o this_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o bishop_n because_o he_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o action_n and_o do_v moderate_v it_o and_o not_o because_o the_o authority_n and_o power_n of_o excommunicate_v remain_v in_o he_o alone_o although_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o the_o counsel_n over_o ▪_o throw_v it_o and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v iustify_v by_o any_o learning_n or_o good_a authority_n yet_o that_o the_o sard._n con._n sard._n reader_n may_v the_o better_o 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shall_v meddle_v with_o the_o civil_a punishment_n why_o shall_v it_o not_o be_v a_o help_n to_o the_o magistrate_n office_n that_o he_o shall_v excommunicate_v etc._n etc._n the_o answer_n be_v soon_o make_v the_o magistrate_n may_v do_v that_o by_o corporal_a punishment_n that_o the_o minister_n can_v not_o do_v by_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o man_n so_o desperate_a who_o the_o magistrate_n by_o his_o authority_n may_v not_o bridle_v but_o such_o be_v y_fw-fr e_o time_n now_o that_o few_o regard_n the_o great_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n 3._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 169._o sect._n 2._o and_o whereas_o m._n doctor_n say_v they_o may_v not_o be_v husband_n man_n craft_n man_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o may_v have_v civil_a office_n i_o think_v far_o otherwise_o that_o although_o neither_o be_v lawful_a yet_o the_o one_o be_v more_o tolerable_a than_o the_o other_o for_o see_v after_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n there_o be_v no_o call_n under_o the_o sun_n weighty_a &_o which_o require_v great_a exercise_n of_o the_o mind_n than_o the_o office-of_a the_o magistrate_n it_o be_v against_o all_o reason_n to_o lay_v this_o heavy_a burden_n upon_o a_o man_n that_o be_v already_o load_v and_o have_v as_o much_o as_o he_o be_v able_a to_o bear_v it_o be_v more_o equal_a if_o they_o will_v needs_o add_v unto_o the_o weight_n of_o this_o burden_n to_o lay_v some_o light_a charge_n of_o exercise_v a_o handy_a craft_n than_o to_o break_v his_o back_n with_o the_o charge_n of_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n io._n whitgifte_n these_o wdrldly_a affair_n of_o husbandry_n occupation_n etc._n etc._n must_v needs_o withdraw_v he_o from_o his_o book_n &_o so_o make_v he_o more_o unapt_a to_o do_v his_o duty_n and_o they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o incident_a to_o his_o office_n nor_o meet_v for_o his_o call_n but_o the_o civil_a office_n that_o i_o speak_v of_o be_v both_o meet_a for_o his_o call_n perteyn_a to_o discipline_n and_o help_n to_o his_o office_n &_o function_n as_o i_o have_v say_v wherefore_o they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o break_v his_o back_n that_o they_o make_v the_o rest_n of_o his_o burden_n a_o great_a deal_n the_o easy_a chap._n 3._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 169._o sect._n 3_o and_o whereas_o in_o the_o policy_n of_o m._n doctor_n it_o seem_v a_o furtherance_n to_o the_o gospel_n to_o join_v these_o together_o which_o be_v also_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o idolater_n as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v in_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n it_o have_v seem_v far_o otherwise_o which_o i_o doubt_v not_o do_v therefore_o separate_v the_o ministry_n from_o this_o pomp_n which_o be_v commendable_a in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n lest_o the_o efficacy_n and_o power_n of_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o ministry_n shall_v be_v obscure_v while_o man_n will_v attribute_v the_o conversion_n of_o soul_n unto_o the_o gospel_n due_a unto_o the_o word_n and_o to_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n to_o these_o glorious_a show_n and_o lest_o while_o the_o minister_n have_v the_o word_n in_o one_o hand_n and_o the_o swordem_n the_o other_o man_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v so_o well_o in_o their_o conscience_n â–ª_o of_o the_o mighty_a operation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o they_o for_o they_o may_v doubt_n with_o themselves_o whether_o these_o be_v and_o outward_a show_n of_o the_o minister_n carry_v some_o stroke_n with_o they_o in_o beleve_v the_o word_n io._n whitgifte_n one_o of_o your_o reason_n contain_v in_o this_o place_n in_o effect_n be_v this_o if_o minister_n shall_v enjoy_v civil_a function_n man_n will_v attribute_v the_o conversion_n of_o soul_n unto_o these_o show_n but_o that_o ought_v they_o not_o to_o do_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n i_o deny_v your_o mayor_n as_o a_o fond_a and_o vain_a imagination_n
an_o other_o reason_n you_o frame_v on_o this_o sort_n if_o the_o minister_n have_v both_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a power_n ▪_o man_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v in_o their_o conscience_n of_o the_o mighty_a operation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o they_o for_o they_o may_v doubt_v whether_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o outward_a show_n of_o the_o minister_n carry_v ecclesiastical_a the_o replier_n argument_n sinit_v as_o well_o at_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d magistrate_n as_o at_o the_o ecclesiastical_a some_o stroke_n with_o they_o etc._n etc._n this_o be_v as_o vain_a a_o imagination_n as_o be_v the_o other_o and_o they_o both_o may_v as_o apt_o be_v apply_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o against_o the_o civil_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o minister_n yea_o in_o deed_n they_o serve_v to_o the_o overthrow_n of_o all_o kind_n of_o civil_a punishment_n for_o if_o the_o magistrate_n make_v sharp_a law_n for_o come_v to_o the_o church_n hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n contemn_v religion_n and_o such_o like_a man_n that_o by_o such_o mean_n be_v drive_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n &_o so_o at_o the_o length_n convert_v may_v doubt_v whether_o the_o word_n have_v wrought_v this_o in_o they_o or_o the_o fear_n of_o outward_a punishment_n do_v you_o not_o mark_v how_o he_o still_o smite_v at_o the_o magistrate_n percy_n te_fw-la you_o not_o how_o near_o he_o approach_v to_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o anabaptiste_n who_o will_v have_v no_o kind_n of_o discipline_n in_o the_o church_n but_o only_a excommunication_n salvation_n god_n use_v corporal_a punishment_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o salvation_n but_o to_o answer_v you_o brief_o god_n use_v corporal_a punishment_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o drive_v ▪_o even_o the_o elect_a to_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n &_o to_o honesty_n of_o life_n he_o use_v it_o also_o to_o bridle_v the_o wicked_a that_o by_o their_o example_n other_o man_n may_v learn_v to_o beware_v and_o that_o they_o themselves_o also_o may_v be_v keep_v in_o order_n and_o no_o man_n that_o be_v true_o convert_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n can_v doubt_v but_o that_o god_n by_o the_o work_n of_o his_o spirit_n through_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o word_n have_v wrought_v that_o good_a in_o he_o though_o by_o external_a mean_n as_o fear_n of_o punishment_n and_o such_o like_a he_o be_v first_o as_o it_o be_v enforce_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n and_o to_o keep_v himself_o in_o order_n in_o deed_n if_o these_o reason_n of_o you_o be_v of_o any_o force_n the_o magistrate_n may_v put_v up_o his_o sword_n especial_o in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n and_o so_o may_v the_o minister_n lie_v aside_o his_o authority_n also_o lest_o any_o thing_n be_v ascribe_v there_o unto_o your_o glance_n that_o this_o be_v also_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o idolater_n though_o you_o have_v not_o where_o prove_v it_o yet_o have_v i_o answer_v it_o before_o chap._n 3._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 169._o sect._n ult._n but_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o civil_a office_n be_v not_o to_o be_v count_v worldly_a affair_n but_o heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a ▪_o it_o be_v so_o and_o yet_o when_o they_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o ecclesiastical_a office_n they_o may_v be_v call_v secular_a office_n for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o to_o gether_o with_o the_o care_n of_o religion_n procure_v and_o provide_v for_o the_o thing_n whereby_o we_o may_v quiet_o and_o commodious_o live_v here_o where_o the_o ecclesiastical_a office_n be_v immediate_o and_o only_o bend_v to_o procure_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o the_o salvation_n of_o man_n and_o in_o that_o signification_n of_o heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a which_o you_o take_v merchandise_n husbandry_n and_o the_o handycrafte_n be_v heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a although_o not_o in_o the_o same_o degree_n all_o lawful_a calling_n come_v from_o god_n and_o return_v to_o he_o again_o that_o be_v he_o be_v both_o author_n of_o they_o and_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v refer_v to_o his_o glory_n so_o that_o if_o the_o minister_n may_v exercise_v all_o thing_n which_o be_v heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a you_o may_v as_o well_o bring_v he_o down_o to_o the_o plough_n as_o promote_v he_o to_o the_o court_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o call_v they_o ecclesiastical_a because_o they_o perteyne_a to_o the_o inward_a man_n to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a the_o cluill_a jurisdiction_n now_o use_v be_v in_o some_o respect_n ecclesiastical_a reformation_n of_o manner_n to_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o religion_n to_o the_o quietness_n of_o the_o church_n and_o good_a order_n in_o the_o same_o so_o do_v not_o all_o cyvill_a office_n much_o less_o husbandry_n merchandise_n handycrafte_n go_v to_o the_o plough_n and_o such_o like_a which_o only_o perteyne_a to_o the_o body_n and_o to_o this_o life_n not_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o end_n that_o i_o have_v before_o name_v wherefore_o here_o your_o wit_n fail_v you_o and_o i_o look_v for_o a_o better_a answer_n chap._n 3._o the._n 6._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o lin._n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d m._n doctor_n say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o commissioner_n be_v ecclesiastical_a because_o it_o handle_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n i_o marvel_v that_o he_o be_v so_o ignorant_a that_o he_o can_v not_o put_v a_o difference_n between_o give_v iudiciail_n sentence_n and_o appoint_v bodily_a punishment_n which_o be_v mere_a civil_a and_o between_o the_o understanding_n the_o truth_n of_o every_o such_o cause_n according_a as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n define_v of_o it_o which_o be_v a_o thing_n common_a as_o well_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n as_o unto_o the_o minister_n &_o wherein_o the_o minister_n because_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v most_o ready_a ought_v if_o need_v be_v consult_v with_o io._n whitgifte_n sure_o i_o think_v you_o scarce_o understande_v yourself_o for_o if_o the_o cause_n be_v ecclesiastical_a why_o may_v not_o the_o punishment_n by_o the_o magistrate_n appoint_v unto_o they_o be_v execute_v by_o ecclesiastical_a person_n have_v authority_n from_o the_o prince_n by_o commission_n so_o to_o do_v and_o if_o the_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v give_v sentence_n and_o judgement_n in_o these_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n why_o may_v he_o not_o consent_v also_o to_o the_o punishment_n appoint_v for_o the_o same_o i_o do_v not_o mean_v he_o shall_v be_v the_o jailor_n or_o tormentor_n himself_o but_o to_o judge_v the_o person_n offend_v worthy_a of_o this_o or_o that_o kind_n of_o punishment_n and_o to_o give_v sentence_n of_o the_o crime_n that_o he_o have_v commit_v &_o to_o determine_v of_o the_o cause_n that_o be_v call_v into_o judgement_n chap._n 3._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o a_o other_o of_o m._n doctor_n reason_n be_v that_o as_o king_n do_v serve_v christ_n by_o make_v law_n for_o he_o so_o bishop_n do_v serve_v christ_n by_o execute_v law_n for_o he_o as_o though_o it_o perteyn_v not_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n to_o execute_v law_n as_o well_o as_o to_o make_v they_o and_o as_o if_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o therefore_o call_v a_o speak_a law_n because_o by_o execute_v they_o he_o do_v cause_n the_o law_n after_o a_o fashion_n to_o speak_v this_o be_v to_o divide_v the_o stake_n of_o the_o magistrate_n between_o he_o and_o the_o bishop_n yea_o to_o gyve_v the_o bishop_n the_o best_a part_n of_o it_o for_o we_o know_v that_o with_o we_o the_o people_n be_v at_o make_v of_o the_o law_n which_o may_v not_o meddle_v with_o the_o execution_n of_o they_o and_o if_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o he_o mean_v not_o hereby_o to_o shut_v the_o prince_n from_o execute_v the_o law_n then_o as_o his_o similitude_n when_o it_o be_v at_o the_o best_a prove_v nothing_o so_o by_o this_o mean_v it_o halt_v down_o right_a and_o be_v no_o similitude_n io._n whitgifte_n the_o prince_n execute_v his_o law_n by_o himself_o &_o he_o also_o execute_v they_o by_o other_o to_o who_o he_o have_v give_v that_o authority_n for_o the_o full_a and_o better_a execution_n of_o they_o in_o this_o number_n be_v the_o bishop_n for_o the_o authority_n they_o have_v in_o such_o matter_n they_o have_v from_o the_o prince_n and_o therefore_o their_o execute_n of_o it_o be_v not_o to_o divide_v stake_n with_o the_o cyvill_a magistrate_n but_o to_o do_v good_a service_n both_o to_o god_n and_o the_o magistrate_n chap._n 3._o the._n 8._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 217._o sect_n 1._o 2._o what_o say_v you_o to_o elye_v and_o samuel_n be_v they_o not_o both_o priest_n judge_n samuel_n priest_n &_o judge_n and_o judge_n what_o office_n do_v the_o prophet_n elias_n execute_v when_o he_o kill_v the_o false_a prophet_n of_o baal_n 1._o reg._n 18._o or_o christ_n when_o he_o whip_v the_o
t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 2._o as_o for_o elias_n kill_v the_o false_a prophet_n and_o our_o saviour_n christ_n whip_a out_n of_o the_o temple_n it_o be_v strange_a that_o m._n doctor_n will_v allege_v they_o as_o thing_n to_o be_v follow_v when_o he_o may_v as_o well_o teach_v that_o we_o may_v call_v for_o fire_n from_o heaven_n as_o elias_n do_v and_o be_v demand_v answer_v nothing_o as_o our_o saviour_n do_v as_o to_o follow_v these_o action_n which_o be_v most_o singular_a and_o extraordinary_a and_o if_o these_o one_o or_o two_o example_n be_v enough_o to_o break_v the_o order_n that_o god_n have_v set_v by_o this_o a_o man_n may_v prove_v that_o the_o mynister_n may_v be_v fisher_n and_o tent_n maker_n because_o peter_n and_o paul_n be_v minister_n do_v fish_n and_o make_v tent_n and_o true_o these_o be_v not_o so_o extraordinary_a and_o from_o the_o general_a rule_n as_o the_o other_o be_v and_o it_o be_v permit_v in_o a_o council_n that_o rather_o than_o a_o minister_n shall_v have_v two_o benefice_n he_o may_v labour_v with_o his_o hand_n to_o supply_v his_o want_n 1_o tom._n 〈◊〉_d nic_n 〈◊〉_d 1_o withal_o io._n whitgifte_n yet_o by_o these_o example_n &_o especial_o by_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n it_o may_v appear_v that_o ecclesiastical_a person_n have_v use_v corporal_a punishment_n which_o you_o call_v civil_a i_o know_v example_n make_v no_o rule_n and_o therefore_o all_o your_o argument_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n allege_v before_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n ought_v to_o be_v popular_a receyve_v the_o same_o answer_n that_o you_o give_v to_o i_o in_o this_o place_n and_o yet_o example_n if_o they_o be_v not_o against_o any_o commandment_n or_o good_a order_n establish_v declare_v what_o have_v be_v and_o what_o upon_o the_o like_a occasion_n may_v be_v do_v but_o not_o what_o of_o necessity_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v if_o you_o can_v prove_v any_o order_n of_o god_n set_v down_o that_o a_o ecclesiastical_a 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