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A69533 Five disputations of church-government and worship by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing B1267; ESTC R13446 437,983 583

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that_o i_o have_v the_o great_a advantage_n to_o press_v the_o adversary_n with_o yet_o because_o i_o have_v make_v it_o good_a already_o in_o two_o or_o three_o other_o write_n in_o my_o key_n for_o catholic_n and_o my_o safe_a religion_n and_o christian_a concord_n i_o shall_v say_v but_o little_a of_o it_o now_o but_o brief_o this_o may_v suffice_v 1._o for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n if_o either_o heresy_n infidelity_n sodomy_n adultery_n murder_n simony_n violent_a intrusion_n ignorance_n impiety_n want_v of_o due_a election_n or_o of_o due_a consecration_n or_o plurality_n of_o pope_n at_o once_o can_v prove_v a_o interruption_n of_o their_o succession_n i_o have_v show_v they_o already_o where_o it_o be_v prove_v but_o if_o none_o of_o these_o prove_v it_o we_o be_v safe_a ourselves_o sect._n 34_o but_o grotius_n in_o discus_fw-la apolog._n rivet_n plead_v for_o they_o that_o if_o any_o intercision_n have_v be_v make_v at_o rome_n it_o have_v be_v make_v up_o from_o other_o church_n answ._n 1._o that_o be_v not_o prove_v but_o naked_o affirm_v 2._o nor_o will_v it_o serve_v the_o papist_n turn_v that_o must_v have_v all_o church_n hold_v from_o rome_n and_o her_o succession_n and_o rome_n from_o none_o nor_o to_o be_v patch_v up_o from_o their_o succession_n 3._o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la the_o contrary_n be_v certain_a for_o 1._o those_o other_o hold_v their_o ministry_n as_o from_o the_o universal_a headship_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o therefore_o have_v themselves_o their_o interruption_n in_o the_o former_a interruption_n of_o rome_n as_o be_v but_o her_o member_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o capable_a themselves_o of_o repair_v of_o her_o breach_n 2._o the_o successor_n of_o the_o illegitimate_a pope_n such_o as_o depose_v eugenius_n etc._n etc._n and_o man_n as_o bad_a as_o they_o have_v continue_v the_o succession_n and_o t●e_v bishop_n that_o be_v consecrate_v by_o power_n receive_v from_o the_o illegitimate_a pope_n be_v the_o only_a person_n that_o be_v the_o repairer_n of_o the_o breach_n and_o yet_o the_o pope_n will_v hardly_o yield_v that_o he_o receive_v his_o power_n from_o any_o of_o these_o 3_o there_o have_v be_v great_a defect_n in_o the_o succession_n than_o this_o of_o consecration_n even_o of_o due_a election_n capacity_n yea_o of_o a_o office_n itself_o which_o christ_n will_v own_v the_o vicechristship_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v no_o office_n of_o christ_n plant_n sect._n 35._o and_o 2_o for_o the_o english_a prelate_n as_o they_o be_v unable_a to_o prove_v their_o uninterrupted_a succession_n so_o the_o interruption_n be_v prove_v in_o that_o they_o derive_v and_o hold_v their_o power_n from_o the_o vicechrist_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o qua_fw-la talis_fw-la for_o so_o many_o age_n this_o be_v their_o own_o profession_n and_o all_o that_o they_o do_v be_v as_o his_o minister_n by_o his_o authority_n which_o be_v none_o sect._n 36._o object_n but_o this_o null_v not_o the_o true_a authority_n which_o they_o receive_v from_o the_o pope_n or_o prelate_n as_o prelate_n answ._n the_o pope_n be_v uncapable_a of_o give_v they_o authority_n and_o whether_o the_o prelate_n as_o such_o be_v so_o too_o we_o shall_v inquire_v anon_o and_o though_o i_o grant_v that_o where_o the_o person_n be_v fit_a there_o be_v yet_o a_o ministry_n valid_a to_o the_o church_n and_o perhaps_o to_o themselves_o in_o the_o main_a yet_o that_o be_v because_o canonical_a ordination_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n but_o by_o other_o mean_v they_o may_v be_v then_o minister_n though_o this_o corruption_n be_v conjunct_a that_o they_o receive_v their_o power_n imaginarily_o from_o r●me_n but_o that_o the_o say_v canonical_a succession_n be_v interrupt_v by_o this_o papal_a tenure_n and_o many_o a_o delinquency_n be_v nevertheless_o sure_a and_o sufficient_a to_o enforce_v the_o argument_n as_o to_o they_o that_o now_o be_v our_o adversary_n but_o so_o much_o shall_v suffice_v for_o the_o nonnecessity_n of_o this_o succession_n of_o a_o true_a and_o regular_a ordination_n chap._n v._o ordination_n by_o such_o as_o the_o english_a prelate_n not_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n sect._n 1_o i_o have_v make_v this_o work_n unnecessary_a by_o the_o two_o former_a chapter_n for_o if_o no_o ordination_n be_v of_o necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n nor_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n necessary_a then_o doubtless_o a_o ordination_n by_o these_o prelate_n in_o specie_fw-la be_v not_o necessary_a at_o present_a or_o as_o to_o succession_n but_o yet_o ex_fw-la abundati_fw-la i_o add_v sect._n 2._o argument_n 1._o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la i_o may_v well_o argue_v from_o the_o concession_n of_o the_o english_a prelate_n themselves_o and_o their_o most_o zealous_a adherent_n and_o their_o judgement_n be_v 1._o that_o such_o a_o succession_n as_o aforesaid_a of_o right_a ordination_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n and_o for_o this_o they_o that_o write_v against_o the_o papist_n do_v common_o and_o confident_o dispute_v sect._n 3_o and_o 2._o they_o maintain_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n that_o have_v no_o bishop_n be_v true_a church_n and_o their_o minister_n true_a minister_n and_o so_o of_o their_o administration_n this_o be_v so_o common_a with_o they_o that_o i_o do_v not_o think_v a_o dissent_v vote_n can_v be_v find_v from_o the_o first_o reformation_n till_o about_o the_o preparation_n for_o the_o spanish_a match_n or_o little_a before_o sect._n 4._o i_o have_v in_o my_o christian_a concord_n cite_v at_o large_a the_o word_n of_o many_o and_o the_o place_n of_o the_o write_n of_o more_o as_o 1._o dr._n field_n 2._o bishop_n downam_n 3._o bishop_n jewel_n 4._o saravia_n 5._o bishop_n alley_n 6._o bishop_n pilkinton_n 7._o bishop_n bridges_n 8._o bishop_n bilson_n 9_o alexander_n nowell_n 10._o grotius_n their_o friend_n then_o 11_o mr._n chysenhal_o 12._o the_o lord_n digby_n 13._o bishop_n davenant_n 14._o bishop_n prideaux_n 15._o bishop_n andrews_n 16._o chillingworth_n 17._o to_o which_o i_o now_o add_v bishop_n brom●all_v of_o schism_n 18._o dr._n fern_n 19_o dr._n steward_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o fountain_n letter_n these_o of_o the_o late_a or_o present_a sort_n 20._o and_o bishop_n usher_n who_o judgement_n of_o it_o be_v late_o publish_v by_o dr._n bernard_n at_o his_o own_o desire_n 21._o and_o mr._n mason_n in_o a_o book_n of_o of_o purpose_n for_o justification_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n have_v large_o plead_v this_o cause_n 22._o and_o dr._n bernard_n say_v that_o dr._n overall_n be_v judge_v not_o only_o to_o consent_v to_o that_o book_n but_o to_o have_v a_o hand_n in_o it_o 23._o and_o no_o wonder_n when_o even_o bancroft_n himself_o the_o violent_a of_o all_o the_o enemy_n of_o they_o call_v puritan_n in_o those_o time_n be_v say_v by_o spotswood_n there_o recite_v by_o dr._n bernard_n to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n and_o to_o give_v it_o
for_o holland_n he_o question_v if_o there_o be_v a_o church_n among_o they_o or_o not_o or_o word_n full_o to_o that_o purpose_n against_o which_o abuse_n of_o the_o dr._n the_o bishop_n be_v fain_o to_o vindicate_v himself_o see_v page_n 124_o 125._o of_o his_o posthumous_n judgement_n sect._n 15._o moreover_o 5._o we_o know_v not_o of_o almost_o any_o bishop_n in_o england_n by_o who_o man_n may_v be_v ordain_v four_o or_o five_o reverend_a learned_a man_n of_o that_o degree_n be_v common_o say_v to_o survive_v among_o we_o who_o we_o much_o honour_n and_o value_n for_o their_o worth_n but_o as_o these_o be_v so_o distant_a and_o their_o residence_n to_o the_o most_o unknown_a so_o the_o rest_n if_o there_o be_v any_o be_v know_v to_o very_a few_o at_o all_o that_o i_o can_v hear_v of_o it_o be_v fame_v that_o many_o bishop_n there_o be_v but_o we_o know_v it_o not_o to_o be_v true_a nor_o know_v not_o who_o they_o be_v and_o therefore_o it_o can_v well_o be_v expect_v that_o their_o ordination_n shall_v be_v seek_v if_o they_o reveal_v not_o themselves_o and_o their_o authority_n and_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o once_o command_v or_o claim_v obedience_n from_o the_o generality_n of_o minister_n how_o can_v they_o expect_v to_o be_v obey_v if_o they_o plead_v the_o danger_n of_o persecution_n i_o answer_v 1._o what_o persecution_n do_v they_o suffer_v that_o be_v know_v above_o other_o of_o their_o way_n 2._o if_o that_o will_v excuse_v they_o when_o we_o never_o hear_v of_o any_o that_o suffer_v the_o loss_n of_o a_o penny_n for_o be_v know_v to_o be_v a_o bishop_n since_o the_o war_n be_v end_v than_o it_o seem_v they_o take_v the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n and_o church_n to_o be_v but_o of_o small_a moment_n that_o be_v not_o worthy_a their_o hazard_n in_o a_o manifestation_n of_o their_o power_n and_o if_o this_o excuse_v they_o from_o appear_v it_o must_v needs_o in_o reason_n excuse_v other_o from_o know_v they_o obey_v they_o and_o submit_v to_o 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contradiction_n of_o scripture_n say_v much_o but_o prove_v little_a sect._n 24._o as_o for_o they_o that_o grant_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o subject_a presbyter_n institute_v in_o scripture-time_n and_o so_o expound_v the_o presbytery_n here_o to_o be_v only_a apostle_n and_o bishop_n of_o the_o high_a order_n i_o have_v show_v already_o that_o they_o yield_v we_o the_o cause_n though_o i_o must_v add_v that_o we_o can_v own_v no_o new_a sor●_n of_o presbytery_n not_o institute_v by_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n but_o for_o they_o that_o think_v that_o prelate_n with_o subject_a presbyter_n be_v existent_a in_o those_o time_n they_o common_o expound_v this_o text_n of_o ordination_n by_o such_o subject_a presbyter_n with_o other_o of_o a_o superior_a rank_n or_o degree_n together_o now_o as_o to_o our_o use_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o hence_o we_o prove_v that_o a_o presbytery_n may_v ordain_v and_o that_o undeniable_o a_o presbytery_n consist_v of_o presbyter_n and_o so_o that_o presbyter_n may_v ordain_v this_o be_v common_o grant_v we_o from_o this_o text._n that_o which_o be_v say_v against_o we_o by_o they_o that_o grant_v it_o be_v that_o presbyter_n do_v ordain_v but_o not_o alone_o but_o with_o the_o bishop_n sect._n 25._o but_o 1._o if_o this_o be_v prove_v it_o be_v nothing_o against_o we_o for_o if_o presbyter_n with_o bishop_n have_v power_n to_o ordain_v than_o it_o be_v not_o a_o work_n that_o be_v without_o the_o reach_n of_o their_o office_n but_o that_o which_o belong_v to_o they_o and_o therefore_o if_o they_o can_v prove_v it_o irregular_a for_o they_o to_o ordain_v without_o a_o bishop_n yet_o will_v they_o not_o prove_v it_o null_a otherwise_o they_o may_v prove_v it_o null_a if_o a_o bishop_n ordain_v without_o a_o presbytery_n because_o according_a to_o this_o objection_n they_o must_v concur_v 2._o but_o indeed_o they_o prove_v not_o that_o any_o above_o presbyter_n do_v concur_v in_o timothy_n ordination_n whatever_o probability_n they_o may_v show_v for_o it_o and_o till_o they_o prove_v it_o we_o must_v hold_v so_o much_o as_o be_v prove_v and_o grant_v sect._n 26._o as_o for_o 2_o tim._n 1.6_o it_o be_v no_o certain_a proof_n of_o it_o it_o may_v be_v imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o confirmation_n or_o for_o the_o first_o give_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n after_o baptism_n ordinary_o use_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o be_v there_o speak_v of_o which_o also_o seem_v probable_a by_o the_o apostle_n annex_v it_o to_o timothy_n faith_n in_o which_o he_o succeed_v his_o mother_n and_o grandmother_n and_o to_o the_o follow_a effect_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o power_n and_o of_o love_n and_o of_o a_o sound_a mind_n which_o be_v the_o fruit_n of_o confirm_v grace_n admonish_v h●m_n that_o he_o be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o the_o testimony_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o be_v also_o the_o fruit_n of_o confirmation_n however_o the_o probability_n go_v they_o can_v give_v we_o no_o certainty_n that_o paul_n or_o any_o apostle_n have_v a_o hand_n in_o the_o ordination_n here_o speak_v of_o when_o the_o text_n say_v that_o it_o be_v with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presb●terie_n we_o must_v judge_v of_o the_o office_n by_o the_o name_n and_o therefore_o 1._o we_o be_v sure_a that_o there_o be_v presbyter_n 2._o and_o if_o there_o be_v also_o any_o of_o a_o high_a rank_n the_o phrase_n encourage_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v as_o presbyter_n that_o they_o impose_v hand_n in_o ordination_n sect._n 27._o argument_n 9_o if_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n as_o common_o distinguish_v do_v differ_v only_o gradu_fw-la non_fw-la ordine_fw-la in_o degree_n and_o not_o in_o order_n that_o be_v as_o be_v not_o of_o a_o distinct_a office_n but_o of_o a_o more_o honourable_a degree_n in_o the_o same_o office_n then_o be_v the_o ordination_n of_o presbyter_n valid_a though_o without_o a_o bishop_n of_o that_o high_a degree_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a the_o antecedent_n be_v maintain_v by_o abundance_n of_o the_o papist_n themselves_o much_o more_o by_o protestant_n the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v because_o ad_fw-la ordinem_fw-la pertinet_fw-la ordinary_a be_v of_o the_o same_o office_n they_o may_v do_v the_o same_o work_n this_o argument_n bishop_n usher_n give_v i_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o ordination_n of_o mere_a presbyter_n without_o a_o prelate_n be_v valid_a when_o i_o ask_v he_o his_o judgement_n of_o it_o sect._n 28._o argument_n 10._o if_o the_o prelate_n and_o the_o law_n they_o go_v by_o do_v allow_v and_o require_v mere_a presbyter_n to_o ordain_v then_o must_v they_o grant_v we_o that_o they_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a as_o be_v well_o know_v in_o the_o law_n and_o common_a practice_n of_o the_o prelate_n in_o ordain_v divers_a presbyter_n lay_v on_o hand_n together_o with_o the_o bishop_n and_o it_o be_v not_o the_o bishop_n but_o his_o chaplain_n common_o that_o examine_v and_o approve_v usual_o the_o bishop_n come_v forth_o and_o lay_v his_o hand_n on_o man_n that_o he_o never_o see_v before_o or_o speak_v to_o but_o take_v they_o as_o he_o find_v they_o present_v to_o he_o by_o his_o chaplain_n so_o that_o presbyter_n ordain_v as_o well_o as_o he_o and_o therefore_o have_v power_n to_o ordain_v sect._n 29._o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o they_o have_v no_o power_n to_o ordain_v without_o a_o bishop_n i_o answer_v 1._o nor_o a_o bishop_n quoad_fw-la exercitium_fw-la without_o they_o according_a to_o our_o law_n and_o custom_n at_o least_o ●●●ually_o 2._o ordain_v with_o a_o bishop_n prove_v they_o to_o be_v ordainer_n and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o work_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o order_n or_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n or_o else_o he_o may_v not_o do_v it_o at_o all_o any_o more_o than_o deacon_n or_o chancellor_n etc._n etc._n may_v and_o if_o it_o be_v but_o the_o work_n of_o a_o presbyter_n office_n it_o be_v not_o a_o nullity_n if_o presbyter_n do_v it_o without_o a_o prelate_n if_o you_o can_v prove_v it_o a_o irregularity_n sect._n 30._o argument_n 11._o if_o the_o ordination_n of_o the_o english_a prelate_n be_v valid_a then_o much_o more_o be_v the_o ordination_n of_o presbyter_n as_o in_o england_n and_o other_o reform_a church_n be_v in_o use_n but_o the_o ordination_n of_o english_a prelate_n be_v valid_a i_o be_o sure_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o they_o that_o we_o dispute_v against_o therefore_o so_o be_v the_o ordination_n of_o english_a presbyter_n much_o more_o sect._n 31._o the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v because_o the_o english_a prelate_n be_v more_o unlike_o the_o bishop_n that_o be_v fix_v by_o apostolical_a institution_n or_o ordination_n than_o the_o english_a presbyter_n be_v as_o i_o have_v show_v at_o large_a in_o the_o former_a disputation_n the_o scripture_n bishop_n be_v the_o single_a pastor_n of_o single_a church_n personal_o guide_v they_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o govern_v they_o in_o presence_n and_o teach_v they_o by_o their_o own_o mouth_n visit_v their_o sick_a administer_a sacrament_n etc._n etc._n and_o such_o be_v the_o english_a presbyter_n but_o such_o be_v not_o the_o late_a english_a prelate_n that_o be_v the_o governor_n of_o a_o hundred_o church_n and_o do_v not_o personal_o teach_v they_o guide_v they_o in_o worship_n govern_v they_o in_o presence_n and_o deliver_v they_o the_o sacrament_n but_o be_v absent_a from_o they_o all_o save_v one_o congregation_n these_o be_v unliker_n to_o the_o scripture_n fix_v bishop_n describe_v by_o dr._n h._n h._n then_o our_o presbyter_n be_v therefore_o if_o they_o may_v derive_v from_o they_o a_o power_n of_o ordination_n or_o from_o the_o ●aw_v that_o institute_v they_o then_o presbyter_n may_v do_v so_o much_o more_o sect._n 32._o argument_n 12._o
be_v institute_v in_o scripture_n time_n now_o as_o a_o pretend_a presbyter_n administration_n be_v valid_a to_o the_o innocent_a receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n so_o a_o pretend_a bishop_n administration_n in_o ordination_n be_v as_o valid_a to_o the_o innocent_a caeteris_fw-la paribus_fw-la sect._n 43._o argument_n 15._o they_o that_o have_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n but_o parochial_a pastor_n call_v presbyter_n have_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n therefore_o they_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n sect._n 44._o the_o minor_a be_v grant_v common_o by_o papist_n and_o protestant_n as_o to_o some_o of_o the_o key_n but_o it_o be_v by_o many_o deny_v as_o to_o other_o they_o say_v that_o every_o pastor_n have_v the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n and_o of_o order_n but_o not_o the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n but_o 1._o christ_n give_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n together_o and_o never_o divide_v they_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v divide_v he_o do_v not_o give_v one_o key_n to_o one_o and_o another_o to_o another_o but_o all_o to_o the_o same_o man_n and_o what_o god_n have_v join_v together_o let_v no_o man_n put_v asunder_o 2._o the_o apostle_n in_o deliver_v these_o key_n to_o other_o be_v never_o find_v to_o have_v separate_v they_o for_o subject_a presbyter_n be_v not_o institute_v in_o scripture-time_n therefore_o all_o that_o be_v then_o ordain_v presbyter_n have_v all_o the_o key_n together_o and_o so_o that_o of_o jurisdiction_n as_o it_o be_v call_v with_o the_o rest_n 3._o that_o presbyter_n have_v the_o key_n of_o order_n government_n will_v prove_v that_o they_o may_v ordain_v as_o be_v aforesaid_a 4._o but_o that_o english_a presbyter_n have_v the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n be_v prove_v 1._o in_o that_o they_o be_v with_o the_o bishop_n to_o ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n 2._o in_o that_o they_o be_v by_o the_o book_n of_o ordination_n charge_v to_o administer_v discipline_n though_o this_o be_v disuse_v and_o the_o prelate_n frustrate_v their_o power_n sect._n 45._o i_o shall_v recite_v the_o word_n of_o reverend_a usher_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o reduction_n of_o episcopacy_n etc._n etc._n by_o order_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n all_o presbyter_n be_v charge_v in_o the_o book_n of_o ordination_n to_o administer_v the_o doctrine_n of_o sacrament_n and_o the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o lord_n have_v command_v and_o as_o this_o realm_n have_v receive_v the_o same_o and_o that_o they_o may_v the_o better_o understand_v what_o the_o lord_n have_v command_v therein_o the_o exhortation_n of_o st._n paul_n to_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v appoint_v to_o to_o be_v read_v unto_o they_o at_o the_o time_n of_o their_o ordination_n take_v heed_n unto_o yourselves_o and_o to_o all_o the_o flock_n among_o who_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v you_o overseer_n to_o rule_v the_o congregation_n of_o god_n which_o he_o have_v purchase_v with_o his_o blood_n of_o the_o many_o elder_n who_o thus_o in_o common_a rule_v the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n there_o be_v one_o precedent_n who_o our_o saviour_n in_o his_o epistle_n unto_o this_o church_n in_o a_o peculiar_a manner_n style_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n and_o ignatius_n in_o another_o epistle_n write_v about_o twelve_o year_n after_o unto_o the_o same_o church_n call_v the_o bishop_n thereof_o betwixt_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o presbytery_n of_o that_o church_n what_o a_o harmonious_a consent_n there_o be_v in_o th●_n order_v of_o the_o church_n government_n the_o same_o igna●i●●_n do_v full_o there_o declare_v by_o the_o presbytery_n with_o st_n paul_n understand_v the_o community_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o presbyter_n or_o elder_n who_o then_o have_v a_o hand_n not_o only_o in_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o sacrament_n but_o also_o in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n for_o further_a proof_n of_o which_o we_o have_v that_o know_a testimony_n of_o tertullian_n in_o his_o general_n apology_n for_o christian_n ●n_o the_o church_n be_v use_v exhortation_n chastisement_n and_o divine_a censure_n for_o judgement_n be_v give_v with_o great_a advice_n as_o among_o those_o who_o be_v certain_a they_o be_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o it_o be_v the_o chief_a foreshow_v of_o the_o judgement_n which_o be_v to_o come_v if_o any_o man_n have_v so_o offend_v that_o he_o be_v banish_v from_o the_o community_n of_o prayer_n and_o of_o the_o assembly_n and_o of_o all_o holy_a fellowship_n the_o precedent_n that_o bear_v rule_v therein_o be_v certain_a approve_a elder_n who_o have_v obtain_v this_o honour_n not_o by_o reward_n but_o by_o good_a report_n who_o be_v no_o other_o as_o he_o himself_o intimate_v elsewhere_o but_o those_o from_o who_o hand_n they_o use_v to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n for_o with_o the_o bishop_n who_o be_v the_o chief_a precedent_n and_o therefore_o style_v by_o the_o same_o tertullian_n in_o another_o place_n summus_fw-la sacerdos_n for_o distinction_n sake_n the_o rest_n of_o the_o dispenser_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n join_v in_o the_o common_a government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o where_o in_o matter_n of_o ecclesiastical_a judicature_n cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n use_v the_o received_a form_n of_o gather_v together_o the_o presbytery_n of_o what_o person_n that_o do_v consist_v cyprian_a sufficient_o declare_v when_o he_o wish_v he_o to_o read_v his_o letter_n to_o the_o flourish_a clergy_n which_o there_o do_v preside_v or_o rule_n with_o he_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o clergy_n be_v think_v so_o requisite_a in_o matter_n of_o episcopal_a audience_n that_o in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n it_o be_v conclude_v that_o the_o bishop_n may_v hear_v no_o man_n cause_n without_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o that_o otherwise_o the_o bishop_n sentence_n shall_v be_v void_a unless_o it_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o clergy_n which_o we_o find_v also_o to_o be_v insert_v into_o the_o canon_n of_o egbert_n who_o be_v archbishop_n of_o york_n in_o the_o saxon_a time_n and_o afterward_o into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o canon-law_n itself_o true_a it_o be_v that_o in_o our_o church_n this_o kind_n of_o presbyterial_a government_n have_v be_v long_o disuse_v yet_o see_v it_o still_o profess_v that_o every_o pastor_n have_v a_o right_a to_o rule_v the_o church_n from_o whence_o the_o name_n of_o rector_n also_o be_v give_v at_o first_o unto_o he_o and_o to_o administer_v the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n as_o well_o as_o to_o dispense_v the_o doctrine_n and_o sacrament_n and_o the_o restraint_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o right_n proceed_v only_o from_o the_o custom_n now_o receive_v in_o this_o realm_n no_o man_n can_v doubt_v but_o by_o another_o law_n of_o the_o land_n this_o hindrance_n may_v be_v well_o remove_a sect._n 46._o and_o indeed_o the_o stream_n of_o antiquity_n and_o the_o author_n that_o be_v principal_o rest_v on_o for_o episcopacy_n be_v full_a against_o they_o that_o deny_v the_o government_n of_o the_o people_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o it_o be_v the_o principal_a mischief_n of_o the_o english_a prelacy_n thus_o to_o degrade_v or_o quoad_fw-la exercitium_fw-la to_o suspend_v at_o least_o all_o the_o presbyter_n from_o their_o office_n not_o as_o it_o be_v a_o deny_v they_o any_o part_n of_o their_o honour_n that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v much_o regard_v but_o as_o it_o be_v a_o discharge_v they_o of_o their_o work_n and_o burden_n and_o consequent_o leave_v the_o church_n ungoverned_a and_o for_o the_o government_n of_o presbyter_n themselves_o in_o cyprian_n day_n the_o bishop_n do_v not_o can_v not_o ordain_v or_o censure_v any_o presbyter_n without_o his_o clergy_n and_o council_n have_v decree_v that_o so_o it_o shall_v be_v yea_o and_o the_o plebs_fw-la universa_fw-la also_o be_v consult_v with_o by_o cyprian_a sect._n 47._o and_o now_o i_o come_v to_o the_o major_a of_o my_o arrgument_n which_o i_o prove_v thus_o either_o ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o of_o some_o other_o power_n but_o of_o no_o other_o power_n therefore_o of_o the_o key_n if_o it_o be_v the_o exercise_n of_o any_o other_o power_n it_o be_v either_o of_o a_o secular_a power_n or_o a_o ecclesiastic_a but_o neither_o of_o these_o therefore_o of_o no_o other_o not_o of_o another_o ecclesiastic_a power_n for_o there_o be_v no_o ecclesiastical_a power_n at_o lest_o which_o ordination_n can_v be_v pretend_v to_o belong_v to_o but_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n not_o of_o a_o secular_a power_n for_o that_o belong_v not_o to_o minister_n nor_o be_v it_o here_o pretend_a sect._n 48._o and_o i_o think_v it_o
exercise_v here_o in_o england_n how_o confident_o soever_o some_o appropriate_a the_o title_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o the_o adherent_n of_o that_o frame_n yet_o will_v we_o not_o have_v the_o church_n ungoverned_a nor_o worse_o govern_v nor_o will_v we_o refuse_v for_o peace_n such_o a_o kind_n of_o episcpacy_n as_o be_v tolerable_a in_o the_o church_n and_o there_o be_v four_o sort_n of_o exercise_n of_o the_o ministry_n which_o if_o you_o please_v you_o may_v call_v episcopacy_n which_o we_o shall_v not_o refuse_v when_o it_o may_v conduce_v to_o peace_n bishop_n §_o 2._o i._n we_o shall_v consent_v that_o the_o ancient_a parochial_a episcopacy_n be_v restore_v that_o be_v that_o in_o every_o parish_n that_o have_v a_o particular_a church_n there_o may_v be_v a_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n settle_v to_o govern_v it_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o chief_a among_o the_o presbyter_n of_o that_o church_n if_o there_o be_v any_o and_o may_v assume_v fit_a man_n to_o be_v assist_v presbyter_n to_o he_o if_o there_o be_v such_o to_o be_v have_v if_o not_o he_o may_v be_v content_a with_o deacon_n and_o these_o parochial_a bishop_n be_v most_o ancient_a and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n §_o 3._o yet_o do_v we_o not_o so_o tie_v a_o church_n to_o a_o parish_n but_o that_o in_o place_n where_o the_o ignorance_n infidelity_n or_o impiety_n of_o the_o people_n or_o the_o smallness_n of_o the_o parish_n be_v such_o as_o that_o there_o be_v not_o fit_a person_n enough_o in_o a_o parish_n to_o make_v a_o convenient_a particular_a church_n it_o may_v be_v fit_a for_o two_o or_o three_o or_o four_o in_o necessity_n neighbour_n parish_n to_o join_v together_o and_o to_o be_v form_v into_o one_o particular_a church_n the_o several_a minister_n keep_v their_o station_n for_o the_o teach_n of_o the_o rest_n as_o catechuman_n but_o join_v as_o one_o presbytery_n for_o govern_v of_o that_o one_o particular_a church_n that_o be_v congregate_v among_o they_o and_o have_v one_o precedent_n without_o who_o nothing_o shall_v be_v do_v in_o matter_n leave_v to_o humane_a determination_n yet_o so_o that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v not_o force_v to_o this_o but_o do_v it_o free_o §_o 4._o ii_o pastor_n we_o shall_v consent_v that_o these_o parish_n church_n be_v associate_n and_o that_o in_o every_o market_n town_n or_o such_o convenient_a place_n as_o shall_v be_v agree_v on_o there_o may_v be_v frequent_a meeting_n of_o the_o pastor_n for_o communion_n and_o correspondency_n and_o that_o one_o among_o they_o be_v their_o stand_a moderator_n durante_fw-la vita_fw-la or_o their_o precedent_n for_o so_o i_o will_v call_v he_o rather_o than_o bishop_n though_o we_o will_v leave_v man_n to_o use_v what_o name_n they_o please_v and_o to_o he_o shall_v be_v commit_v the_o communicate_v of_o time_n and_o place_n of_o meeting_n and_o other_o business_n and_o correspondency_n and_o the_o moderate_n of_o the_o debate_n and_o disputation_n §_o 5._o and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o will_v consent_v for_o peace_n that_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la no_o ordination_n be_v make_v in_o either_o of_o the_o foresay_a presbytery_n without_o the_o precedent_n but_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n so_o be_v it_o 1._o that_o none_o be_v compel_v to_o own_o any_o other_o principle_n of_o this_o practice_n than_o a_o love_n of_o peace_n and_o none_o be_v compel_v to_o profess_v that_o he_o hold_v the_o precedent_n to_o have_v de_fw-fr jure_v a_o negative_a voice_n yea_o that_o all_o have_v liberty_n to_o write_v down_o on_o what_o other_o principle_n they_o thus_o yield_v that_o the_o practice_n only_o may_v suffice_v for_o peace_n §_o 6._o iii_o we_o shall_v consent_v also_o that_o one_o in_o a_o deanery_n or_o hundred_o or_o other_o convenient_a space_n country_n may_v by_o the_o magistrate_n be_v choose_v a_o visitor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o country_n about_o he_o have_v power_n only_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o state_n of_o thing_n and_o grave_o to_o admonish_v the_o pastor_n where_o they_o be_v negligent_a and_o exhort_v the_o people_n and_o provoke_v they_o to_o holiness_n reformation_n and_o unity_n only_o by_o persuasion_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v no_o more_o than_o any_o minister_n may_v do_v that_o have_v opportunity_n only_o we_o desire_v the_o magistrate_n to_o design_n a_o particular_a person_n to_o do_v it_o require_v minister_n and_o people_n to_o give_v he_o the_o meeting_n because_o that_o which_o be_v every_o man_n work_n be_v not_o so_o well_o do_v as_o that_o which_o be_v special_o commit_v to_o some_o and_o we_o desire_v that_o he_o may_v acquaint_v the_o magistrate_n how_o thing_n be_v man_n §_o 7._o and_o to_o avoid_v the_o inconvenience_n of_o divide_v these_o work_n we_o be_v desirous_a that_o these_o two_o last_o may_v meet_v in_o one_o man_n and_o so_o he_o that_o be_v choose_v by_o the_o pastor_n the_o precedent_n of_o their_o association_n may_v be_v choose_v his_o visitor_n by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o do_v both_o which_o may_v be_v do_v by_o one_o in_o every_o market-town_n which_o be_v true_o a_o city_n in_o the_o ancient_a sense_n and_o the_o circumjacent_a village_n yet_o this_o we_o can_v make_v a_o stand_a rule_n that_o one_o man_n do_v both_o because_o the_o pastor_n must_v choose_v their_o precedent_n and_o the_o magistrate_n his_o visitor_n and_o its_o possible_a they_o may_v not_o always_o concur_v but_o if_o the_o magistrate_n will_v not_o choose_v such_o a_o visitor_n the_o pastor_n may_v but_o then_o they_o can_v compel_v none_o to_o meet_v he_o or_o hear_v he_o §_o 8._o iv._o beside_o these_o three_o or_o two_o whether_o you_o will_v before_o mention_v minister_n we_o shall_v consent_v that_o there_o be_v a_o general_a sort_n of_o minister_n such_o as_o the_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o other_o in_o those_o time_n be_v that_o shall_v have_v no_o special_a charge_n but_o go_v up_o and_o down_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o gather_v church_n where_o there_o be_v none_o and_o contribute_v the_o best_a assistance_n of_o their_o ability_n interest_n and_o authority_n for_o the_o reform_n confirm_a and_o right_a order_n of_o church_n and_o if_o by_o the_o magistrate_n command_v or_o minister_n consent_v there_o be_v one_o of_o these_o assign_v to_o each_o county_n and_o so_o their_o province_n prudential_o distinguish_v and_o limit_v we_o shall_v not_o dissent_v yet_o we_o will_v have_v such_o but_o where_o there_o be_v need_n §_o 9_o v._o beside_o these_o four_o sort_n of_o bishop_n we_o be_v all_o agree_v on_o two_o sort_n more_o 1._o the_o episcopi_fw-la gregis_fw-la or_o pastor_n of_o every_o congregation_n whether_o they_o have_v any_o assistant_n presbyter_n or_o no_o or_o be_v themselves_o but_o such_o assistant_n presbyter_n 2._o the_o magistrate_n who_o be_v alexandria_n a_o secular_a bishop_n or_o a_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n by_o force_n and_o we_o desire_v the_o 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the_o name_n of_o a_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n §_o 10._o there_o be_v enough_o in_o this_o much_o to_o satisfy_v any_o moderate_a honest_a man_n for_o church-government_n and_o for_o the_o heal_n of_o our_o division_n thereabouts_o and_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o this_o that_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o moderare_fw-la of_o any_o party_n §_o 11._o 1._o that_o a_o church_n organise_v call_v by_o some_o ecclesia_fw-la prima_fw-la shall_v be_v no_o great_a than_o i_o have_v mention_v be_v not_o contradictory_n to_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o episcopal_a presbyterian_o congregationall_a or_o erastian_n indeed_o the_o two_o first_o say_v that_o it_o may_v be_v big_a but_o none_o of_o they_o say_v it_o must_v be_v big_a the_o presbyterian_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n which_o s●rued_v to_o the_o high_a can_v be_v prove_v near_o half_a so_o great_a