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A56492 Mr. L'Estrange refuted with his own arguments being a reply to his late impertinent pamphlet entituled L'Estrange no papist : in farther justification of the informations sworn against him, before the lords of the secret committee / by J.P., Gent. ... J. P., Gent. 1681 (1681) Wing P59A; ESTC R5424 14,607 35

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and shall be always ready to justifie And more then that he admires at Mr. L'Estranges Confidence to call the Everlasting God to Witness the attest of his publick Impositions upon the World But the slight Comparison of his coming down the Chimney upon a Broomstick shews the levity of his Invocation Now as to the probability of the Matter First saith he I had no discourse with Fletcher but in the hearing of the other two and to those two I dare appeal if he dares but say who they were As to the first Assertion Mr. Fletcher affirms it to be false for that the other two Gentlemen were at the one end of a long Table and Mr. Fletcher and Mr. L'Estrange at the other at a competent distance and consequently divided into several places and discoursing of distinct matter As for his Appeal because he is in such a daring humour we will ●ell him the Name of one of the Gentlemen who was there and perhaps took more notice of his Auricular Confessions then he was aware of his Name with his addition is Doctor Frye Now we must tell him where the Doctor lives too or else Mr. L'Estrange will make him a Nullitie as he has done Mr. Anderson's Acquaintance he lives therefore in Black Fryers very near the Water-Stairs where he is very well known and where Mr. L'Estrange may attend him for the Julip of his so unquestioned acquittal Secondly I must be two great Fools in one to speak a thing so imprudent that had no relation either to the Company or the Occasion As for Mr. L'Estranges Folly or whether he be one or two Fools we shall not trouble our selves with it nor whether he borrowed this Argument from Gawen the Jesuite at the Sessions-House But considering that it is the Custom of most people now a-days to preach over their Cups and to slip out of all other Discourses into that of Religion at the Tavern there might be occasion given enough for the Discourse and Discourse enough upon the Occasion notwithstanding all Mr. L'Estranges Improbabilities Thirdly In case I had said it in so harmless a fashion c. So then at length here 's a Confession of the whole matter wire-drawn out of him But what he means by confessing himself to be a Catholick of Rome in a harmless fashion by confessing himself to be of that Church in a harmless fashion and by hoping to see others return to that Church in a harmless fashion or how the saying of words in a harmless fashion can make those words void is somewhat of a Riddle But now you see what sort of Engin it is which he makes use of to shove off all Objections made against him he swears and stares and hectors in a harmless fashion and then you are oblig'd to believe what ever he says to be true in a harmless fashion But lastly it is my comfort that Mr. Fletcher of all the world is is the man to make me a Papist of whom no man living could ever make any thing The Assertion is very general and very positive and properly enough becoming Mr L'Estranges impotent precipitancy and shews how little heed there is to be given to a rash and inconsiderate Censurer But suppose him to be onely a moral honest Man and that Mr. L'Estrange dares not deny 't is enough to do his business Nay suppose him to be one of the midling sort a man of no more then a strip'd Reputation yet the Oaths of such a one is sufficient to serve Mr. L'Estranges turn Is this the Famous L'Estrange that ownes such Trifles as these His Populus ridet multumque torosa Jnventus Ingeminat tremulos naso Crispante Cachinnos At these the common Vulgar laugh the very Boys Sneer up their Noses and deride his Toys Mr. Prance 's Invention I find is quite jaded so put to 't to make a Twelve-penny Book on 't that he 's fain to Thunder a matter of twelve folio Pages in Observations upon Philo-L'Estrange and Pragmaticus and all the Edge of his Indignation is as still turn'd upon me that Heav'n knows am innocent of the thing as I was born How innocent he was born it matters not He should have done well to have made the Earth as knowing as the Heavens in this particular Especially having so many good Friends that for old acquaintance sake would have spar'd him room for such a short Advertisement in any of their Weekly Intelligences But be it whose it will it runs in his Stile contains his own Principles pursues his wild and rambling Conceits and smells of the same Hemp with all the rest of his Pamphlets against the Plot and it's Discoverers His Name is to it the known Name of Roger L'Estrange Esq and it is said to be printed for his Bookseller And therefore since the Brat is laid to his Charge he is bound to keep and maintain it For otherwise by his own Rule unless he can produce the Author and tell us where he dwels we must adjudge all other Authors Nullities but himself However he says there is in it one Terrible Pinch against him Mr. L'Estrange says in his Discovery upon Discovery Now Doctor I do positively averr that there was not one Church of England-Man in the Parliament Army To which it is answered that a Metropolitan of England served in the Parliament Army with a command of Horse and thence inferr'd now what becomes of L'Estranges positive averr To which Mr. L'Estrange replies that the Covenant was an Abjuration of the Church of England and the opposing of Bishops and the Common-Prayer was the Test of the Party and that an Episcopal man being once dipt is no more a Church of England-Man than a Renegade that hath renounced the Christian-Faith is a Christian Truely Mr. L'Estrange had better have let this Argument alone for he only speaks out of the abundance of his Heart but not out of the Abundance of his Logick In the first place he does not make it out that ever the Arch-Bishop took the Covenant neither does it appear by any thing from Mr. L'Estrange but that he might make use of the Liturgie of the Church of England at the same time So that it may be said indeed that he assisted the Long Parliament as a Rebel but that did not make him cease to be a Church of England-Man And thus the Bishop of Munster when he assisted the French King was a Rebel 't is true to the Emperor who was his lawful Prince nevertheless he was of the Church of Rome and Bishop of Munster still So in the Archbishop the effect must remain because the cause was not taken away The cause of his being made Arch-Bishop was the Kings Favour but the King had not un-Arch-Bishop'd him and therefore being still an Arch-Bishop he was still a Church of England-Man In the second place He mistakes in Fundamentals For Episcopacy is not the Church of England 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 de omni but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉