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A13578 A sermon teaching discretion in matters of religion, and touching certayne abuses nowe in the Churche preached at Paules Crosse the 21. of Nouember by Robert Temple Bachelor in Diuinitie sometimes of Magdalene Colledge in Oxforde. Temple, Robert, Bachelor in Diuinitie. 1592 (1592) STC 23869; ESTC S100993 26,698 73

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grewe to that temeritie and madnesse that they tooke vnto themselues the titles places of Bishopes boasting of Eleusius the author of their election But sayth hee there is one Eunomius and his sect the inwarde plague and mischeife of the Church who thinketh it a great deale out of his waie if hee drawe not all with himselfe into destruction and daunger yet these things are tollerable But of all church trobles the Apolinarists libertie is most licentious I am to certefie youre reuerence he meaneth Nectarius that a litle booke is come to my handes of Apollinaris wherein such thinges are written as exceedes all peruerse heretickes that euer were Conueticles of Schismatickes daungerous I will haue you consider that if these haue common liberty of priuat metings it is nothing else but to esteeme their doctrine truer then ours and you know that in euerye thing nature suffereth not two contrary doctrines of one the same point to be true Any that will may verye well consider the same to be the present calamitie and ieopardy of our Church and as Gregorie to Nectarius so I appeale to our magistrates for redresse First and for most wee haue among vs Paules Iesuites Chem. Exa● prefat par ● a murren sect of hereticks that infect the purenes of the Gospell a cruell sort of bloody ones that abiure a lawefull allegiaunce to their Prince ●●s Hum. ●m Cur. ●ax naturall loue to their Countrie and by forreine conspiracie abroade put in practise at home the death of the one and destruction of the other ●suites These thinke they doe God good seruice to slaye his anoynted ●sebius lib. ● cap. 40. murther his saincts endeuoring as did the Imposters in Alexandria in the dayes of Decius to inflame the peoples desire with a customed superstition of the Countrye and make them beleeue that the worshipping of Idols and murdering of Protestants is pietie August exclaimes against such a zeale ●gust Iho. ● tract 93. ó error horrendus ò execrabilis cecitas Zelum Dei habent sed non secundum scientiam obsequium se putant praestare deo interficiendo famulos Dei Oh horrible error oh execrable blindenesse they haue a zeale but not accordinge to knoweledge they thinke they doe GOD good seruice in killinge the Seruauntes of GOD. But I will not make manye wordes aboute them onelye this I saye as they be our countrie men by Nation pity their liues as they bee Papistes in weakenesse labour to conuert them but as they be heretiques in popeperie and Traytors to their Countrie let the Lawe punishe them and I praye God either turne their harts from whetting anie more swordes to shed the blood of the Lordes anointed or returne the sharpest swordes from the pointe with a cutting edge on bothe sides in vp to the verye hiltes in their owne heartes blood Oh Lorde lette ELIZABETH florishe with a Crowne of glorye vppon her heade and a Scepter of Tryumphe in her hande and still washe her feete in the bloode of her enemies Psal 58.9 We haue againe among vs Libanius Martinistes I vse that name Socrat. eccl hist lib. 3. cap. 19. Because as Libanius the Sophister in a ridiculous libell against religion flattered Iulian that hipocrite in profession vntill hee came to the empyre but afterwarde a Tyrant in persecution ●artinistes So Martin publisheth manye his friuolous Pamphlets bewraying in this a spirite rather of scorne and slaunder then learninge and loue because hee handleth diuinitie with scurrillitie scripture with laughter more pleasant to a sight of gospell Libertines and Churchrobbers then medling at all with the matter in hande muche lesse deciding the controuersies by moment and wayght of argument and therefore better answered alreadie by some merie mates like himselfe then to bee vouchsafed so muche as a silable by learned replye These irregular fellowes derrogate from Bishops both title and place in Churche and common wealth A verie sore plague to the good estate and constitution of the Church and a great deale the sorer because domesticall and inwarde and yet shall I saye my conscience and speake indifferentlye Fie for shame both Martin and Antemartin Paciscamur sayth Augustine to Petiliā si placet vt nec tu malos nobis obijcias quos putas nostros Aug. petilia● lib. 2. cap. 3. nec ego vestros vobis Agreed sayth August to Petilian If you please that neither you vpbrayde vs with those on our part whom you thinke to be bad Nor wee cast you in teeth with such on your side as wee iudge verie ill of So do yee both and goe to the matter Ciprian lib. ● Epist 9. Brownistes But wee haue as mischieuous as anye the other Puppianus Brownistes for they rightly follow his steppes who as Ciprian writes would be perfect alone vnspotted holy pure and not ioyne himselfe with the rest but alone as it were in Paradise in the kingdome of heauen swelling with such a pride and puffed vp with such arrogancie of minde that he would reduce all bishops cleargie men to his owne knowledge to be purged before him and to bee absolued by his sentence so that for the space of 6. yeares neyther had the fraternitie any Bishop nor the people an ouerseer nor the flocke a Pastor nor the Church a gouernour nor Christ a Prelate nor God anie Priest These set forth their bookes beyond all impudencie of all Schismatickes Magistrates ●egligence ●he cause of ●ectes if they be let alone as either impunitie or securitie of magistrates I will not saye perciallytie must needes further their faction what maye the silie people thinke whom they seduce daylie and drawe into error but that their doctrine is truer then ours as they fasly obiect our Church of Englandes ministerie preaching ●ocrates lib. ● cap. 33. prayer sacraments discipline is of no warrant frō God Eustathius somtime Bishop of Sebastia in Armenia after his abdicatiō by a generall counsel set a broch many wicked opinions among other he did perswade the people detesting other churches to haue their cōmon meetings in priuate houses drawing away seruaunts frō their maisters by simulation of religion Brownistes Conuenticles the like are among vs condemning all other assēblies in accustomed churches gathering themselues togither in houshold conuenticles alienating prentices by coulor of religion from all duty of obedience dwelling with their maisters I wish this saieng of Ciprian were well learned of such Ciprian ibid Scire debes Episcopū in ecclesia esse et ecclesiā in Episcopo et si qui in Episcopo nō sunt in ecclesia non esse et frustra sibi blandiri eos qui pacem cum sacerdotibus Dei non habentes obrepunt et latenter apud quosdam communicare se credunt cum ecclesia quae catholica et vna est scissa non sit neque deuisa sed vbique connecta et coherētium sibi
his visitatiō in Asia spy out as in my cleargy mē as come in by simonie some in one dioces some in an other and put them out if there be 13. bishops at a clap Ambros epis● lib. 50. orat ● Auxent Shall Ambrose sentēce be heard Quid sunt cathedrae nisi honores quid sunt columbae nisi mentes simplices vel animae fidem cādidam puram sequentes ergo iubetur exire qui dignitates vendit et honores iubetur exire qui vendere vult simplices mentes fideliū What are the seates but places of honour what are the doues but the seelie mindes soules of such as followe the cleare and pure fayth then he is commaunded to go forth of the church that sells dignities and honours he is cōmaunded to go out of the church that will sell the seelie consciēces of the faithful Basill doth call it transitum ad Gehēnan Hellferrie and so I feare me it is in deed both for the priest the people Barnard tels a tale of Martin a Cardinaall prelate whoe returning in his Legacie from Dacia was so poore his money and horses fayling him that he coulde scarse come to Florence The Bishop of Florence gaue him a horse which brought him to Pise where Barnard reporteth he was at the same time the next daye after the Bishop of Florence came to Pise requiring for the dispatch of some cause hee had in lawe the testimonie of his freindes presuming of the Cardinall amonge the rest for his late good turne came to him for his voice then sayde Martin you haue deceiued mee sir I litle knewe ye had such busines in hand the very same houre resigned his horse Barnard bringes this in to vpbrayde both the insolencie and simonie of the Court of Rome in Pope Eugenius time because Martin passing throughe a Countrie of gold and siluer tooke no knowledge of it moreouer would not be so much as suspected to take any gift at all As litle as I like Martin Marprelate surelie this was Martin good-prelate Martin good prelat and I would to God that euery one both Bishop and other minister were such a Martin Now concerning your selues of the Auditory Contempt in the common people Manie faultes likewise are common in you Contempt of Prophecie is one and the first For whereas the end of this notable gift of Prophecie is edification as ye heard afore the people in these daies are growne to a hatefull contempt and rebellious disobeidience of the word preached as the Prophet sayd in his time Ierm 5.13 The warning of the Prophets is but winde the worde of God is not in them They say prophecie not Mich. 2.6.11 yee shall not prophecie vnto vs no ye shall not Euerye paynfull minister may finde Bernards wordes to be true Berna cant serm 42. Coarctore duobus et quid eligam nescio placere ne mihi in eo quod locutus sum quoniam quod debui feci an penitentiam agere super verbo meo quia quod volui non recepi Besids a threefold perill of the labour and worke in respect of our selues conscience intelligēce vtteraunce Conscience to be rightlie called by inward testimonie Intelligence to perceiue the deuine sence of the scripture vtteraunce to teach the people of which three the first is requisit the second hard the thirde in maner harder then the second yee do ad a threefold harder difficultie then all that is to procure your teachablenes in hearing faythfulnes in beleeuing holinesse in obeying For oh Lord who hath giuē credence to our preaching Esay 53.1 Rom. 10. ●6 Esay 65.2 Rom. 10.21 or who hath beleeued our report All the day long do we stretch forth our hands to a disobedient gaynsaying people but erre not I pray you and bee not deceiued Greater far authority is the prophesie in the gospell then of old far more fearefull to dispise the one then contēne the other Iohn Baptist Math. 11.6 more then a prophet none greater among mē begottē of women yet the least in the kingdome of heauen greater then hee The Apostle commaundes vs not to despise prophecying for no doubt hee that despiseth 1. Thes 5.19 1. Thes 4.8 1. Sam. 8.7 despiseth not man but god who hath giuen you his holy spirit The Lord sayd to Samuell the prophet They haue not cast thee away but cast me away so sayde Christ to his disciples Luk. 10.16 He that heareth you heareth mee and he that dispiseth you dispiseth me he that dispiseth me despiseth him that sent me And in deed all former prophets in their visions did leuell with their eyes and looke strait on Christ the only prophet of all To him al gaue witnes that through his name al that beleue in him should receaue remission of sinnes Ambrose saith Act. 10.43 Amb. Luc. 9. lib. 7. Et hodie Moses docet et hodie Elias loquitur et hodie in maiori gloria Mosen videre possimus Euē now a dayes Moses teacheth and now a dayes Elias speaketh and now a dayes wee may see Moyses in a great deale more glorie Nay Barnard seemeth to require the grace of prophecie in as manie of your selues as are deuout and godlie For saith hee Vbi angelica in hoc corpore conuersatio in corde prophetica expectatio in vtroque apostolica perfectio inuenitur gratus iste cumulus gratiarum Where we haue in this our bodie a conuersatiō like vnto the Angels in the hart an hope as the prophets had in both the Apostles perfectiō how great an aboundance is it of Gods graces Arogancie in ●he people Arrogancie is an other fault in our people For manie haue a dedignatiō to bee taught surmising themselues more sufficiently to haue the sence of the spirit and sincerlie the knowledg of the truth thē any learned preacher of them all As though it were a protrit base matter that St. Paule speaketh of ● Cor. 2.10 to search the deepe things of God And whereas the Apostle would haue the spirits euen of the Prophets subiecte ● Cor. 14.32 to the Prophets 2. Pet. 1.20 2. Tim. 3 1● 1 Cor. 12 2● these will admit no censure of anie else but onlie their owne priuate interpretation yet being no Prophets as though Prophecie were of priuate interpretation Greg. nazia● Theol. orat 1 all were Apostles all Prophets all Teachers Gregorie Nazianzen writeth of Eunomius who as though hee were rapt into heauen after Elias 2. Reg. 2.11 made worthye to talke with God Exod. 19.9 and beholde him in a cloud after Moyses taken vp into Paradice hearing impossible things to be vttered 2. Cor. 12. ● after Paule doth sayth he in one daies space make manie mo Sainctes and creat deuines as it were inspiring learning into them causing many conuenticles of vnlearned praters and of such an immediate vpstart spirit aboue the sober