Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	bishop_n	church_n	person_n	1,806	5	4.8836	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A30189	An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball.	Ball, John, 1585-1640.; Ashe, Simeon, d. 1662.	1642 (1642)	Wing B558; ESTC R3127	281,779	264

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to_o see_v the_o whole_a church_n satisfy_v before_o they_o release_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o do_v they_o show_v not_o what_o right_n the_o multitude_n have_v to_o sit_v judge_n with_o the_o bishop_n but_o what_o ●●e_v themselves_o have_v to_o remove_v from_o the_o people_n all_o occasion_n of_o stumble_v id._n pag._n 113._o if_o you_o take_v excommunication_n for_o remove_v the_o unruly_a from_o the_o civil_a society_n of_o the_o faithful_a until_o they_o conform_v themselves_o unto_o a_o more_o christian_a course_n of_o life_n i_o be_o not_o altogether_o averse_a that_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v concur_v in_o that_o action_n etc._n etc._n see_v august_n contr_n par_fw-fr ep._n 1_o l._n 2._o ca._n 1._o can._n stay_v sect._n 12._o pag._n 123._o not_o so_o much_o as_o be_v to_o be_v desire_v but_o in_o a_o eminent_a sort_n and_o that_o with_o god_n