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A00631 An antiquodlibet, or An aduertisement to beware of secular priests Fenner, Dudley, 1558?-1587, attributed name.; Udall, John, 1560?-1592, attributed name'. 1602 (1602) STC 10765; ESTC S117686 60,651 170

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conceyue that they will ingage themselues in a warre for toleration and will attempt nothing for an absolute and perfit reformation It is this latter and not the former that is in speciall regarde with them if in this behalfe they haue been ●ed at all with apprehensions of Religion Hauing therefore in the case of toleration not attayned to theyr disseignements we cannot with probality thinke of any readines on theyr part to a surcease of hostility but they will continew the same eyther publikely as before or secretly by way of indirect practises the oportunity and meanes for interteyning whereof the sayd toleration will fitly minister and supply vnto them The fift reason to perswade toleration is this Vpon graunt of toleration the platforme for establishing the Iesuits monarchy ouer the whole world would bee frustrated Her Maiestie therefore may with good reason embrace it Here first the Antecedent doth suppose the Iesuits in so deepe a melancholy as to dreame of a Monarchy not ouer the parts of Europe only but ouer the whole globe of the ear●h which is altogether improbable considering the reputation they cary for wisdome and discretion Secondly the compassing of such a monarchy is a meere impossibily and therefore the reason taken from thence of no force to perswade Thirdly in case it were a matter possible yet would there fall out so many yeeres betwixt the platforme and the reall existence thereof as that wee should not need for feare of the same to shew the Seculars the least curtesie much lesse runne a course of speciall dishonour and preiudice Fourthly if the possibility thereof were such as the erection of it amongst vs were not otherwise impeachable then by admittance of the sayd toleration yet for as much as the mayne end of toleration aymed at within her Maiesties dominions is one and the same with the scope and drift of the Iesuits viz. the reestablishment of Antichristianity with the subuersion of the Gospell and the State for the effecting whereof the course in question would bee a fit and seruiceable instrument to the Iesuit it were no lesse a phrensie to intertaine toleration vpon any such respect and ground then for preuenting the miscariage of a ship to sayle from Scilla to Charibdi● But what confirmation hath the Quilibet yeelded to the sayd Antecedent If it be not of better strength then the in●erence depending thereon it is not answerable to the credit of his reuerend priesthood Such as I finde it shall be presented to examination In this manner then hee disputeth What course will be a meane for establishing Catholike Bishops in England the same will frustrate the platforme of the Iesuiticall Monarchy But toleration will be a meane for establishing Catholike Bishops in England Toleration therefore will frustrate the sayd platforme Were he not a Secular Priest that is a professed enemie to the Gospell and the present gouernment I should thinke hee did in this argument collude and betray the cause he hath in hand For if toleration draw with it into allowance within the Realme the office and iurisdiction of Popish Bishops then as the authority and commission of the most reuerend Fathers and worthy Prelates of this Church will grow short and limited they being not to deale with persons and causes subiect to this new Romish Court and Hyerarchy so likewise will there ensue an vnsufferable incrochment vpon her Maiesties scepter and soueraignety these new Bishops being to represent and supply the person and office of the Pope in all such affayres as shall concerne his supremacy But let vs examine the Quilibets reason The proposition we may iustly deny For if the Bishops established be Iesuited in affection or otherwise commaunded by the Pope rather to giue furtherance then any impediment to the sayd platforme then can it not be true that such course will furstrate the designes of Iesuits in this behalfe and interrupt all dependency vppon them as will serue for erection of a Popish prelacie The sixt motiue for toleration whereto I will adde that which hee setteth downe for the eleuenth hath this conclusion What course will be a meane to discouer al malicious deuices plots and conspiracies agaynst her Maiestie and the State the same she should in reason admit and imbrace But toleration will be a meane to discouer all malicious deuices and plots agaynst her Maiestie and the State Toleration therefore should her Maiestie in reason admit and imbrace Hee cannot with any arte so colour the Proposition but that the fraude thereof will forthwith appeare if we shall examine it by the square or rule of the maxims aboue remembred For if wee may not walke in the trayne of sinne and disobedience to God that thereby some aduauntage may grow vnto vs in our particular and further if it be a grosse error in policy for the preuention of an accidentary perill to make choyse of a certaine mischiefe then cannot her Maiesty for the stay of proiects and confederacies they being incertayne for theyr birth and cariage as also liable to disappoyntment by the gracious prouidence of the Almighty and such politique meanes as haue formerly in like cases been vsed allow intertaynment and place to toleration Neyther is there lesse deceit offered vs in the Assumption For if the free exercise of Popery will double in Romanists theyr alleageance and deuotion to the Pope trebble theyr detestation to our Religion nourish and rayse theyr desires of a full and entire reestablishment that they may be in theyr professions and estates secured agaynst all daungers of future alteration how can it be probable that they will contrary to the approbation of theyr conscience and preiudicially to the publique good of theyr Church and theyr priuate interests tender such aduertisements and discoueries as is pretended Theyr exercises of religion being of the quality and operation as is remembred will they the more they malice vs and our profession be so much the more ready to doe offices of extraordinary benefit and aduauntage to vs and it Will they the more they loue theyr religion and honour the Pope so much the more indeauour to frustrate the aduauncement both of the one and the other And will they hauing as it were gayned the wall and places of speciall strength in the siege of our Ierusalem sound the retraite and proceede no further If the Marchant or Marriner should tell vs that after a long and tedious Nauigation being within ken of the port wished for hee would rest satisfied with the sight of the same a farre of and so lay aside all purpose and crosse all meanes of attayning thereto wee could not beleeue him nor conceyue him to be so phranticke and senseles in his apprehensions The like opinion wee are to haue of the Seculars in this tale they propound vnto vs of discouering practises and conspiracies Besides it being supposed that the Seculars and others so affected as they are will be ready to doe seruice to the State in this poynt
so they pretend also a peremptory resolution to oppose personally against all attempts of this nature and further to draw vnto an actuall correspondence with them herein all Catholiques with whome they shall bee able to preuayle Moreouer not reason onely but experience of all tymes hath taught that the disunion of confederates though followed on the one part onely with the extremity of malice neuer fayleth eyther to worke and rayse impediments to the common cause or to seeke the weakening and suppression of the aduerse party Further whereas it is affirmed that there hath beene a carefull course held to preuent the disturbance of theyr common peace and of their disseignes the trueth hereof will be testified by the directions they receyue ordinarily from theyr Superiors how to carry themselues in matters of weight by the order and discipline established amongst them to encounter and remedy scandalous accidents by the entercourse of intelligence that is betwixt them and the Commaunders of theyr faction by theyr watchfulnes and continuall preparation to take aduantage of all occurrents and tymes fitting theyr intents Hereupon it is that they want not theyr Catalogues of the number in each Shire and City deuoted to theyr side and how they are furnished with armes munitions and other abilityes Wherefore vppon the considerations aboue remembred I doe inferre that eyther theyr quarrell is colourable and entertayned of pollicy or they instrumentes of hinderance to the aduauncement intended vnto the publique cause of the Sea Apostolique If any shall in this place outof the obiection aboue mentioned reply that theyr profession to discouer and oppose against all treacheries whether in plot or action doth cleere the pretended difference from the imputation of disguising and fraude Igraunt it doth so in case it be really and sincerely vpon all occasions performed what is verbally professed But in doing hereof they shall bee found guilty of high Treason against the authority of the Romane Church whose cause by this course of detection and opposition they doe wilfully betray But against this later they doe contest and openly professe all readinesse to shed each droppe of theyr best blood for the publique good and honour of Saint Peters Chayre What therefore can we conceyue and conclude other then this that both the pretended contention and the sayd profession accompaning the same is counterfeyte Besides for a further proofe hereof let vs drawe into examination the vehement protestation tendered by the Seculars of all sincere and dutifull alleageance to her Maiesty and likewise of all detestation towards the Spanyard and his title If the protestation both of the one and the other proceede not from any found affection but from a fraudulent intention of the heart wee may then with good reason charge them with want of loyal and faythfull meaning in their pretended difference For of these three namely theyr zeale to her Maiesty theyr hatred to the Spanyard theyr quarrell with the Iesuites there is originally the same ground and ende viz. the aduauncement and good of theyr common cause and the two first are made the motiues of the latter For out of a zeale to the surety of her Maiesties state and vpon hatred of the Spanyard and his tytle they pretend a capitall abhorring of the Iesuits whose complots tend to the destruction of the one and to the aduantage of the other so as of what quality and tincture the two former are of the same wee are to iudge that to bee which groweth from them But the question is of this protestation whether it be feyned First that it is so in that part thereof which is of duty and alleageance to her Maiesty I haue these presumptions to perswade me Where the same opinion in Religion the same obligation of dutifull respect and obedience to the Pope the same endeauours of supplanting the Gospell and aduauncing Popery the same distrust and feare of her Maiesty infinitly wronged and dishonoured by them the same apprehension of supposed vexations and tyrannies executed vpon them and in generall where the same cause of malice and hatred to her royall person and the State doth remayne there in all likelyhood can be no change of affection For the disposing of a malicious and trayterous heart to duty and fidelity must proceede from a surcease of those causes which gaue life and breath to malice and treachery As they nourish in heart the originall and spring of theyr disloyalty and malice so is there no probability of theyr inclination to alter and remoue it theyr meanes being as great as heretofore theyr confederates as many and strong theyr aduauntages agaynst vs encreased as may appeare by theyr glorious vauntes of fauour in Court and Countrey theyr inlarged hopes and insolency theyr conceyt and reporte of desperate hostility betwixt Protestants and Puritans Besides were they out of a grieued heart for theyr former rebellious cariage sincerely affected to the safety and preseruation of her Highnesse would they perswade the graunt of such meanes as threaten a present and an ineuitable daunger to her person and the state They prease a repeale of the Statutes which secure her Crowne and dignity they solicit a tolleration of theyr religion that they might without perill and controulement employ theyr seruice in effecting reconcilements to the Pope they direct catholique subiects when to proceede to the execution of most Antichristian censures and Bulls for deposition of our Soueraigne lastly they labour a finall disunion and diuision first betwixt her Maiesty and her Subiects and then betwixt Subiect and Subiect and so consequently the subuersion both of Prince and people Can they solicit and labour the ruine of her Maiesty and yet be reputed sincere and vnfeyned in theyr profession of allegeance and fidelity vnto her Againe were they resolutely and soundly deuoted to performe loyalty and duety vnto her in all such poyntes of seruice as concerne her honour and safety and particularly in detection of treacherous disseignements in recouery of disaffected subiects from the Pope to her obedience in aduenturing theyr persons and goods agaynst all forraine attempts then would the Pope and Spanyard surcease theyr plots and practises against this State vpon feare of theyr discouery defection of Catholiques from them and dispayre of preuayling To conceyue that the inuadors will come furnished out of theyr owne sufficiency and so stand absolutely vpon theyr domestical and proper strength not looking to finde the helpe and succour of a faction amongst vs is idle or to thinke they shall bee able to preuayle notwithstanding the discouery made of theyr proiects and attempts were to hold vs for accessary to our own ruine in leauing to the inuadors the helpes they attend and hope for and in fayling to furnish all due meanes on our part for resistance If then vpon seasonable aduertisement giuen of theyr intended enterprises we shall disappoynt them of the strength and supplies they expect and inable our selues in euery respect with preparations of all natures