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A62452 A discourse of the forbearance or the penalties which a due reformation requires by H. Thorndike ... Thorndike, Herbert, 1598-1672. 1670 (1670) Wing T1044; ESTC R1719 71,571 188

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dear_a church_n of_o god_n in_o it_o chap._n xxvii_o how_o recusant_n may_v or_o may_v not_o be_v punish_v as_o idolater_n it_o remain_v that_o i_o say_v what_o penalty_n this_o position_n make_v competent_a to_o those_o that_o refuse_v the_o reformation_n thus_o limit_v a_o thing_n easy_a for_o i_o to_o do_v have_v declare_v the_o ground_n upon_o which_o the_o refuse_v of_o christianity_n be_v punishable_a which_o the_o reformation_n hitherto_o have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o do_v the_o position_n of_o punish_v heretic_n capital_o be_v general_o decry_v by_o they_o and_o yet_o we_o see_v servetus_n and_o gentilis_fw-la put_v to_o death_n at_o geneva_n and_o bern_n and_o other_o elsewhere_o if_o because_o sentence_v for_o heretic_n by_o they_o that_o put_v they_o to_o death_n why_o shall_v not_o the_o power_n that_o adhere_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n execute_v the_o sentence_n thereof_o upon_o those_o who_o they_o pronounce_v heretic_n if_o because_o so_o sentence_v by_o the_o 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