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B05064
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A modest answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum: by a learned pen.
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Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701.
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the_o synod_n to_o convocate_v and_o moderate_v it_o this_o be_v not_o to_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o the_o rest_n who_o be_v call_v metropolitan_a from_o the_o chief_a city_n where_o he_o use_v to_o reside_v then_o over_o the_o metropolitan_o be_v set_v up_o patriarch_n but_o behold_v how_o careful_a he_o be_v to_o protest_v against_o imparity_n as_o to_o jurisdiction_n of_o who_o he_o say_v his_o tamen_fw-la primatibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la nihil_fw-la omnino_fw-la juris_fw-la erat_fw-la in_o alios_fw-la episcopos_fw-la aliasve_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la ultra_fw-la quod_fw-la dixi_fw-la cuique_fw-la metropolitae_n in_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la atque_fw-la episcopos_fw-la suae_fw-la provinciae_fw-la which_o we_o take_v notice_n before_o be_v to_o convocate_v and_o moderate_v the_o synod_n at_o last_o he_o show_v how_o among_o these_o patriarch_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v set_v up_o as_o chief_a and_o then_o how_o all_o good_a order_n go_v to_o ruin_v now_o let_v this_o testimony_n be_v consider_v and_o we_o shall_v hope_v for_o more_o advantage_n by_o it_o than_o mr._n still_v can_v expect_v from_o it_o we_o draw_v these_o two_o conclusion_n 1._o that_o bucer_n look_v upon_o set_v up_o a_o precedent_n over_o presbyter_n as_o the_o great_a length_n that_o the_o primitive_a church_n do_v or_o can_v go_v towards_o the_o make_n of_o imparity_n among_o minister_n 2._o that_o even_o this_o their_o practice_n though_o not_o unlawful_a in_o itself_o yet_o be_v so_o inconvenient_a that_o it_o be_v the_o method_n and_o mean_a that_o antichrist_n get_v into_o his_o chair_n by_o sect._n 5._o he_o come_v next_o to_o the_o french_a divine_n and_o begin_v with_o fregevile_n who_o testimony_n we_o think_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_v see_v as_o mr._n still_o confess_v he_o be_v episcopal_a his_o opinion_n do_v not_o suit_n well_o with_o the_o principle_n of_o that_o church_n he_o live_v in_o as_o we_o shall_v see_v after_o the_o next_o be_v blondel_n that_o learned_a writer_n for_o presbyter_n as_o he_o be_v call_v who_o word_n cite_v by_o mr._n still_o be_v not_o at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n as_o any_o may_v see_v at_o first_o view_n see_v he_o say_v no_o more_o but_z that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o church_n power_n to_o make_v a_o perpetual_a precedent_n or_o not_o for_o bochartus_fw-la his_o opinion_n that_o neither_o presbyterialis_fw-la nor_o episcopalis_fw-la ordo_fw-la be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la if_o he_o mean_v the_o difference_n between_o they_o in_o jurisdiction_n and_o not_o only_o in_o precedency_n i_o see_v not_o how_o it_o can_v be_v defend_v and_o not_o have_v his_o book_n i_o can_v determine_v how_o consistent_a it_o be_v with_o his_o own_o principle_n for_o amiraldus_n who_o he_o bring_v next_o his_o design_n of_o union_n with_o the_o lutheran_n i_o believe_v do_v either_o stretch_v his_o opinion_n or_o make_v he_o stretch_v his_o affection_n to_o a_o excess_n of_o condescendency_n which_o can_v be_v excuse_v but_o from_o his_o good_a intention_n sect._n 6._o our_o author_n come_v next_o to_o those_o who_o look_v on_o parity_n as_o the_o primitive_a form_n and_o yet_o allow_v episcopacy_n as_o a_o very_a lawful_a and_o useful_a constitution_n concern_v those_o i_o premise_v 2_o general_a remark_n 1._o that_o what_o these_o worthy_a divine_n say_v to_o this_o purpose_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v not_o of_o episcopus_fw-la princeps_fw-la but_o praeses_fw-la according_a to_o that_o distinction_n very_o common_a among_o they_o this_o we_o must_v hold_v as_o only_o consistent_a with_o their_o principle_n till_o the_o contrary_n be_v prove_v out_o of_o their_o own_o writing_n 2._o that_o many_o thing_n say_v by_o they_o to_o this_o purpose_n be_v the_o over_o reach_n of_o their_o desire_n to_o be_v one_o with_o they_o who_o differ_v from_o they_o in_o this_o but_o agree_v in_o most_o thing_n as_o the_o lutheran_n and_o some_o english_a divine_n they_o do_v often_o as_o smect_v say_v of_o spanhem_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n p._n 65._o deliver_v a_o compliment_n rather_o than_o their_o judgement_n but_o to_o come_v to_o particular_n he_o begin_v with_o cracanthorp_n who_o excuse_v all_o the_o reform_a church_n from_o aerianisin_n because_o they_o hold_v not_o imparity_n to_o be_v unlawful_a but_o this_o man_n be_v a_o son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o they_o speak_v and_o write_v in_o her_o defence_n against_o ant._n de_fw-fr domin_n wherefore_o his_o testimony_n of_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v be_v willing_a to_o have_v they_o all_o think_v as_o he_o do_v they_o be_v better_o defend_v from_o side_v with_o aerius_n by_o smect_n p._n 79._o where_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o aerius_n be_v condemn_v for_o his_o arianism_n and_o other_o error_n but_o not_o for_o hold_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o parity_n and_o that_o jerome_n augustus_n sedulius_n primatius_fw-la chrisostome_n theodoret_n oecumenius_n theophylact_fw-mi be_v of_o the_o same_o opinion_n with_o aerius_n in_o this_o next_o he_o bring_v the_o augustane_n confession_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o which_o i_o have_v these_o 3_o thing_n to_o say_v 1._o this_o be_v not_o a_o confession_n of_o they_o who_o be_v ordinary_o call_v the_o reform_a church_n but_o of_o the_o lutheran_n for_o at_o the_o same_o meeting_n at_o augusta_n do_v zuinglius_fw-la and_o the_o helvetian_o give_v in_o their_o confession_n apart_o by_o themselves_o wherefore_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o these_o worthy_a man_n who_o be_v a_o reform_v but_o have_v not_o attain_v to_o that_o pitch_n of_o it_o which_o other_o have_v do_v retain_v some_o small_a tincture_n of_o the_o way_n according_a to_o which_o they_o have_v be_v breed_v in_o this_o point_n 2._o luther_n himself_o be_v not_o well_o please_v with_o this_o confession_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o relation_n of_o pezelius_n who_o mellific_a histor_n par_fw-fr 3._o p._n 336._o say_v thus_o author_n vero_fw-la confessionis_fw-la cum_fw-la 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not_o help_v mr._n still_o be_v cause_n who_o plead_v for_o the_o sole_a jurisdiction_n of_o bishop_n as_o lawful_a sect._n 7._o in_o the_o next_o place_n he_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o force_v calvin_n to_o speak_v for_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o episcopacy_n which_o he_o can_v never_o comport_v with_o while_n he_o live_v he_o bring_v his_o instit_fw-la lib._n 4._o c._n 4._o sect_n 1._o &_o 4._o in_o both_o which_o section_n he_o allege_v no_o more_o out_o of_o he_o but_o this_o that_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n have_v almost_o nothing_o in_o their_o canon_n which_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o that_o they_o use_v no_o other_o form_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n than_o be_v prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n what_o do_v this_o help_n his_o cause_n the_o ancient_a bishop_n in_o calvin_n judgement_n be_v no_o more_o but_o praesides_fw-la these_o he_o say_v be_v not_o constitute_v beside_o the_o word_n of_o god_n this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o scope_n of_o our_o author_n 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happy_a in_o the_o cite_n of_o beza_n for_o he_o for_o beza_n distinction_n of_o bishop_n be_v well_o know_v
much_o certainty_n as_o amount_v to_o plerophory_n and_o do_v dispel_v all_o degree_n of_o darkness_n and_o doubt_v this_o we_o assert_v not_o that_o every_o one_o may_v attain_v such_o be_v the_o darkness_n of_o man_n mind_n neither_o be_v it_o needful_a to_o this_o that_o we_o look_v upon_o what_o the_o apostle_n do_v as_o be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la if_o we_o mean_v so_o much_o certainty_n as_o do_v incline_v the_o mind_n to_o the_o one_o part_n and_o not_o leave_v it_o in_o suspense_n we_o assert_v that_o this_o may_v be_v attain_v in_o reference_n to_o what_o be_v in_o question_n 2._o the_o matter_n in_o debate_n be_v very_o obscure_o if_o not_o fraudulent_o express_v by_o these_o word_n what_o course_n the_o apostle_n take_v in_o govern_v church_n the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o we_o can_v know_v every_o thing_n that_o they_o do_v in_o this_o for_o many_o particular_n be_v comprehend_v in_o this_o general_a expression_n but_o whether_o we_o can_v know_v if_o the_o settle_a presbyter_n act_v in_o parity_n or_o bishop_n act_v with_o authority_n over_o presbyter_n as_o the_o ordinary_a officer_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o it_o be_v not_o fair_a deal_n to_o imply_v as_o this_o proposition_n do_v that_o we_o infer_v the_o only_a divine_a right_n of_o one_o form_n from_o bare_a apostolical_a practice_n he_o know_v that_o we_o walk_v upon_o other_o ground_n viz._n we_o take_v christ_n command_n of_o imitate_v the_o apostle_n the_o parity_n between_o our_o case_n and_o they_o which_o may_v make_v the_o morality_n of_o our_o practice_n to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o 4._o it_o be_v not_o the_o one_o form_n which_o several_a party_n imagine_v to_o come_v near_o to_o apostolical_a practice_n but_o that_o which_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o with_o it_o we_o plead_v for_o it_o be_v not_o man_n imagination_n but_o scriptural_a ground_n which_o we_o establish_v that_o correspondency_n upon_o we_o be_v assert_v between_o apostolical_a 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upon_o the_o author_n proposition_n as_o such_o a_o reflection_n on_o scripture_n that_o any_o but_o a_o papist_n may_v be_v ashamed_a of_o to_o this_o i_o add_v that_o the_o argument_n bring_v for_o presbyterial_a government_n by_o the_o assertor_n of_o it_o do_v evident_o destroy_v the_o author_n proposition_n and_o do_v establish_v our_o antithesis_fw-la which_o see_v he_o do_v not_o intend_v nor_o endeavour_n to_o answer_v we_o need_v not_o insist_v upon_o a_o further_a confirmation_n of_o our_o antithesis_fw-la shall_v be_v to_o take_v off_o the_o argument_n that_o he_o have_v bring_v for_o his_o proposition_n which_o i_o now_o come_v to_o sect._n 11._o his_o first_o argument_n be_v p._n 287._o from_o the_o equivalency_n of_o the_o name_n and_o doubtfulness_n of_o their_o signification_n from_o which_o the_o form_n of_o government_n use_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n shall_v be_v determine_v he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v hot_o plead_v on_o both_o side_n that_o the_o form_n of_o 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this_o that_o the_o scripture_n do_v often_o apply_v these_o name_n to_o the_o same_o thing_n never_o to_o divers_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o assert_v the_o difference_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n this_o be_v a_o sure_a argument_n than_o what_o can_v be_v draw_v from_o the_o importance_n of_o name_n answ_n 2._o it_o be_v most_o false_a and_o injurious_a to_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n speak_v in_o his_o word_n to_o say_v that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o way_n to_o determine_v what_o be_v the_o certain_a sense_n of_o these_o name_n in_o scripture_n we_o must_v then_o say_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n speak_v that_o which_o can_v be_v understand_v if_o he_o use_v name_n and_o word_n to_o express_v some_o thing_n to_o we_o and_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o know_v what_o be_v mean_v by_o they_o when_o we_o hear_v of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n in_o any_o place_n of_o scripture_n either_o we_o must_v say_v that_o these_o word_n signify_v nothing_o or_o that_o they_o mean_v somewhat_o but_o no_o man_n can_v know_v what_o it_o be_v or_o that_o we_o may_v come_v to_o know_v what_o be_v mean_v by_o they_o the_o former_a two_o be_v foul_a reflection_n on_o the_o author_n of_o holy_a scripture_n yea_o it_o be_v a_o reflection_n on_o a_o man_n to_o speak_v or_o write_v in_o a_o book_n design_v for_o instruction_n that_o which_o either_o have_v no_o meaning_n or_o such_o as_o can_v be_v know_v the_o 3d_o contradict_v our_o author_n assertion_n his_o proof_n of_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o signification_n of_o these_o name_n we_o have_v meet_v with_o before_o in_o the_o like_a case_n it_o be_v a_o most_o unhappy_a and_o inconsequential_a reason_n man_n have_v divers_a way_n understand_v these_o word_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n ergo_fw-la they_o can_v be_v understand_v at_o all_o they_o must_v have_v a_o meaning_n and_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n to_o search_v it_o out_o however_o man_n differ_v about_o it_o there_o be_v better_a reason_n bring_v by_o presbyterian_o to_o prove_v that_o these_o two_o name_n signify_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o be_v incumbent_a on_o this_o author_n to_o answer_v and_o not_o to_o shift_v the_o matter_n with_o say_v that_o other_o man_n think_v otherwise_o i_o shall_v give_v but_o this_o instance_n or_o hint_n which_o may_v satisfy_v any_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o these_o word_n in_o scripture_n tit._n 2._o the_o apostle_n leave_v in_o crete_n titus_n to_o ordain_v elder_n or_o presbyter_n verse_n 5._o and_o tell_v he_o how_o they_o must_v be_v qualify_v verse_n 6_o and_o give_v this_o reason_n why_o they_o must_v have_v such_o qualification_n verse_n 7._o for_o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v blameless_a if_o a_o bishop_n be_v another_o thing_n than_o a_o presbyter_n to_o what_o purpose_n be_v this_o reason_n here_o bring_v ergo_fw-la they_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o if_o any_o affirm_v that_o these_o word_n signify_v different_a thing_n in_o any_o place_n of_o scripture_n let_v he_o prove_v it_o and_o we_o shall_v yield_v the_o cause_n i_o may_v also_o show_v that_o the_o same_o office_n and_o work_n be_v every_o where_o in_o scripture_n lay_v on_o both_o these_o and_o that_o never_o any_o thing_n be_v give_v to_o the_o one_o but_o what_o be_v give_v to_o the_o other_o but_o this_o have_v be_v do_v and_o other_o argument_n manage_v full_o by_o our_o writer_n against_o episcopacy_n neither_o have_v mr._n still_v have_v the_o confidence_n to_o answer_v they_o though_o destroy_v this_o his_o assertion_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v supersede_n this_o labour_n for_o the_o name_n of_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n the_o argument_n bring_v from_o it_o be_v not_o we_o but_o our_o opposite_n sect._n 12._o his_o 2d_o argument_n for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o apostolical_a practice_n p._n 290._o