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A45127	The friendly interposer, between the authors of those papers, the one called a report, the other, a rebuke of that report in order to a sound reconciliation between the Presbyterians and Independents in doctrinals, by the proposal of a third way, when both of them in their own, are out / by John Humphrey.	Humfrey, John, 1621-1719.	1698 (1698)	Wing H3678; ESTC R16381	26,728	32

procatarcticae and Materialis also with Mr. Baxter per modum Meriti and no otherwise What is then let any one of them tell me That wherein the Formal Cause or Reason of Justification is to be placed or can Justification be or * Justificationis formam justitia constare certum est A Middle Way therefore here between Protestant and Papist desideratur constare without Any For this Advice now which according to my Natural Genius I should have given to Mr. Williams See 1 Pet. iii. 15. I apprehend not prejudicial to Gospel Truth if his Sence is upheld that is the Truth of his Book while the Quarrel about the Word be compos'd It is plain that Mr. Williams and I and They hold the same thing for he is no Socinian but holds Christ died for us in the Sence of in our stead That he was our 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 importing a Surrogation of Christ's Person in our room when he became a Sacrifice for us which is as much I say again as Grotius to whom they appeal did intend It is nothing therefore in my esteem for Mr. Williams to withdraw an Expression in that sence which offends seeing in the Antinomian sense wherein he denies a Change of Person the Brethren agree in the Negative with him and in the Orthodox sence which they own Mr. Williams agrees in the Affirmative with them It is not Base here but Generous and to be Victor to give way it being enough that they both have declared themselves Besides if the Brethren be in earnest to search into the Matter and would order their Words so as we might come to Concord both in Words and Sence I have chalked out here from my late Book this Accommodation I will allow them a Change of Person in the Orthodox sence of the Word so as to grant Christ did sustain our Person in what he did and suffer'd And they shall allow to me that there is not a Change of Persons so as God did look on us to have done in Christ's Person what he did tho' he did it in our behalf and they shall henceforth frame their Words accordingly And that our Brethren may bend to some Reconciliation in this Proposal I do find since I wrote my Pacification the same Conception in Dr. Owen We do not say that God judgeth or esteemeth that we did and suffer'd in our Persons what Christ did and suffer'd but only that he did it and suffer'd it in our stead Of Justis pag. 295. As for the latter Passage That the Father was never displeased with Christ thus much must be premised and understood from what is said on the former That in the sence he sustain'd our Persons he was made Sin for us as the Apostle speaks though he knew no Sin that is to be understood Effectivè He was not made Sin or a Sinner formaliter but I say effectivè in regard to the Effect of Sin that is the bearing our Punishment as before Our Saviour therefore may be consider'd as bearing our Persons according to these Brethren and so our Sins or in his own Person God could not be displeased with him in the one no nor in the other Consideration because it was of his own appointment God in the Punishment on his Son not of his Son was displeased with the Sin and Sinners whose Person he bare but he was never displeased with the Person of his Son and much less now when he was fulfilling the Command of his Father in giving himself for us an Offering and a Sacrifice of a sweet-smelling Savour unto him He must have a witty Invention I think that can find any thing to make himself differ from Mr. Williams in this Point And what when they and he agree in Sence would our Brethren have Mr. Williams retract these Words Nay it is They must withdraw here or they may bid him next go contradict the voice of God from Heaven This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased J. H. FINIS These Books written by the Reverend Author Mr. John Humfrey And to be Sold by Tho. Parkhurst c. are as follow SEveral Papers about Four or Five Sheets apiece called the Middle Way of Election of Redemption of Justification of the Covenants Law and Gospel of Perfection with indifferency between the Orthodox and Quaker As also Peaceable Disquisitions which treat of the Natural and Spiritual Man of Praying by the Spirit of Preaching by Demonstration of it of Assurance of the Arminian Grace of the Possibility of Heathens Salvation of the Reconciliation of Paul and Jamos of the Imputation of Christ's Righteousness with other incidental Matters One of which middle Papers viz. That of Justification was Reprinted two Years since with the Quotation of what concerns that Subject out of the other and since that one Sheet so called and his Six Sheets last Year called Pacification in which there is the Case of Non-Resistance and Passive-Obedience stated and resolved the Doctrine whereof abjured in the two former Reigns is here in this Kings Reign Recorded for a Memoriae Sacrum to those which are to come 4to's The Righteousness of God revealed in the Gospel or an impartial Enquiry into the genuine Doctrine of St. Paul in the great but much controverted Article of Justification To which is prefixt the Epistles of the Right Reverend the Bishops of Ely Worcester and Chester 4to A Private Psalter or Manual of Devotion composed by a Minister under the Apprehension of the Stone 8to The Axe laid to the Root of Separation or the Churches cause against it 8to

have both beaten one another out of your Own Mr. Report before I end I cannot but speak to you of one or two things because I look on you as one that have been as forward formerly as any for composing Theses for Agreement and I am moved at those Nine Articles which Mr. Rebuke mentions upon the Resarciation of the first Breach among the Brethren whereof the Fifth is of Justification in which there are allowing the rest as unquestionable these Words Not imputing Faith it self the Act of Believing or any other Evangelical Obedience to them as their Righteousness which Words are such that if you had taken care on purpose to say something for contradicting the Scripture you could not have done your Work more effectually Not by imputing Faith it self say you the Act of Believing to them for their Righteousness when the Scripture says expresly Abraham believed God and it it that Act of Believing was imputed to him for Righteousness Again Not by imputing the Act of any Obedience when the Scripture says expresly Then stood up Phinehas and executed Judgment and it was counted to him for Righteousness How could you find in your Heart Brother especially how could those of your Independent Brethren that out of opposition to the Doctrine of that Holy and Excellent Man Mr. Baxter who found fault with this in the Savoy Confession find in their Hearts to compose or cause to be composed such an Article for the Subscription of both Parties What my Reverend Brethren Are you for a plain Conspiracy against the Holy Scripture What cause have I therefore for this Doctrine of mine not before throughly handled to contradict you The Lord of Truth be Witness between us You may say That not only the Savoy Confession but the Assemblies Confession and Catechisms do countenance so much I answer If not only the Ministers at the Savoy but an Assembly nay the Ministers of the whole Earth could joyn in drawing up the Article of Justification in these Words they must be all laid flat on their Backs by those of the Apostle And it was imputed to him for Righteousness Upon this account that I could not subscribe my self to such an Article I must add as to your way of Concord by Theses I like it not For though a Church that is Establish'd by Authority where the Preacher is answerable for his Doctrine to his Superiours may by such means be upheld by their taking care that Holy Mother does nihil detrimenti capere it is not so with the Nonconformists whose Preaching depends on their Liberty and they so divided And therefore it is not a Union in Doctrinals I apprehend but a Union in Practicals and in Love that is adviseable and that not without the leaving every Man acknowledging only the Holy Scriptures and the Three Creeds to the Liberty of their own Opinions I have no more now but to let you know that whereas the design of this Letter being the same with that of my Books the Middle Way my Pacification my Righteousness of God revealed in the Gospel there is a new Book on the Point coming out or come out by the Reverend and Learned Mr. Clark known by his Annotations upon the Old and New Testament upon the occasion whereof there hath passed many Letters between him and me for the clearing this Middle Way which we take or to some Difficulties appearing in it which Letters I intend as far as is fit to Print and this Paper being some Abstract of the Sense which I could not have thus suddenly wrote if I had not been thereby furnished though fully comprehended by my self it cannot be taken in by others so fully as by those Letters which have their Enlargement and came more naturally from me and therefore I desire you to suspend your Judgment as to the main great Matter or Article till you have read these Letters also which I do purpose to shew to you and to Mr. Williams before I Print them because I think that he so far as he differs from me and you too are both out and can be reconciled never but by a Third way between you that I propose and if that be Truth I do believe so worthily of you both that either of you will think it a greater Victory to yield to the Truth than to overcome one another The Title of these Letters when Printed which I hope you will find them make good shall be this Letters between Mr. John Humfrey and Mr. Samuel Clark in reference to the Point of Justification Written upon the Occasion of Mr. Clark's Printing his Book on that Subject before it came out and Published by Consent for the Vindication of that Doctrine wherein they agree as sound by shewing the Difference of it from that of the Papist and the mistake of our Common Protestant In order to an impartial and more full Vnderstanding of that great Article by the Improvement of that whereto they have attained or Correction of any thing wherein they err by better Judgments Having finisht here that which I intended for Four Sheets with the Half Sheet at the End the Printer gave me Notice that there would be a Leaf or two wanting to be fill'd After thus much then there being more to be said I must acknowledge Mr. Report that there is nothing wherein you can pinch Me and Mr. Williams more than by fixing on this one thing which I suppose you do that a Commutation a Substitution or Surrogation of one Person in the room of another for the Doing or Suffering any thing in his behalf must imply the Doing or Suffering that very thing which the other was to do or suffer or else it is no strict or proper Substitution and consequently that Christ as you hold bearing the very Punishment of our Sins we are to be counted in him as our Surrogate to have our selves born that Punishment seeing what is done by a Surrogate or Substitute is reckoned in Law to have been done by him for whom he hath Officiated Likewise Christ having obeyed the Law for us we are to be reckoned to have obeyed and so to be Righteous in his Righteousness and Justified by it For my speaking therefore something more to this we must consider there are Terms used by Divines and in Scripture as that of Surety once which we are not to take Strictly and slavishly in their Vulgar Conception for that were rude coarse and raw to do so but they must be Largely generously Construed with the Liberty of more Accurateness and Consonancy to the Analogy of Faith and consequently to be understood as in our Ethicks we have it Pro ut prudens desinierit Upon which account I must answer that forasmuch as you have taken these Terms from Grotius it is fit it is reasonable you should also take his Sense and meaning of them and that is such which you know well enough that though he does account that there is a Commutation and Surrogation of