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A06740 A censure about the rule of beleefe practised by the Protestants VVritten in Latine by the most Reuerend Father Valerian Magni of Milan of the order of the Minors, of the seraphical S. Francis, named Capucins. And translated into English by R. Q. Gentleman Magni, Valeriano, 1587-1661.; R. Q. 1634 (1634) STC 17185; ESTC S103102 26,921 40

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Biblists is the sole rule of the iudg of controuersies about faith religion The eight consequence NO Biblists can beleeue the articles of faith except he doe first by praire consult the holy ghost out of the bible Therfore euery protestant is obliged vnder the paine of eternall death to consult the holy ghost by prair out of the bible concerning all those things which appertaine to the in integritie of faith Proofe BEcause Biblists will haue no other rule of beleefe then this To consult the holie hhost out of the bible in regard they hould that all men generall councells may err wherfore seing that true faith is absolutlie necessarie to obteine eternall life shunn eternall death it euidently followeth that all Biblists according to their owne rule are oblidged vnder the paine of eternall death to consult the holy ghost out of the scripture touching all things which appertein to the integritie of their faith els they can not be saued The Ninth consequence EVery Biblists according to his rule of faith is obliged vnder the paine of eternall damnation to councell the holy ghost out of the bible touching all those articles which apperteine to the integritie of faith Therfore ech Biblist is bound vnder the paine of eternall damnation haueing first praied councelled the holy ghost out of his Bible to decide all controuersies of religion which be in dispute as touching the notes of the true church ecclesisticall iurisdiction The primacie of the Roman Bishop traditions the number of sacraments The possibilitie of Keeping the law iustification innumerable others which were ouer long to reherse Proofe FOr all these as is euident doe apperteine to the integritie of faith Neither doth it helpe the Biblists cause to say That they be taught the same by their ministers or reede them in their Cathechismies or learne them out of the doctrine of their churches or haue them sett doune in the institutions of Caluin or in the treatises of Luther his compannions For Luther Caluin doctors ministers churches may disagree from the sacred scriptures err in faith therfore are not certainlie to be beleeued but only so farr forth to be credited as their doctrine agreeth with the scriptures And therfore ech Biblist is bound to councell the holy ghost out of the scriptures to know whether or no such doctrine as they heere to be preached taught or read in Cathechismies or is deliuered them by their churches be agreeable to the writtē word of God or disagreable the-reto so decide the same by their priuate spirit ere they beleeue els it is impossible for à biblist to haue any true faith The tenth consequence ALl Biblists be bound vnder the paine of eternall damnation hauing first praied to consult the holy ghost out of their bible about the number version edition of the sacred bookes of both testaments Also about all controuersies which concerne the integritie of faith Therfore all in generall men weomen doctors idiots of what condition soeuer they bee if they be come to the adg of discretion haue sufficient sense reason are bound conforme to this Biblists doctrine vnder the paine of eternall damnation To consult the holy ghost out of their bible touching the number versions editions integritie of the sacred bookes of either testament as also touching all controuersies which apperteine to the integritie of faith all which how impossible it is to performe ech iudicious biblist may perceiue by consequenc what an absurd rule they haue chosen for to prooue true faith by Proofe BEcause both men woemen of what condition soeuer if they be come to the yeares of discretion are bound vnder the paine of eternal damnation to haue true faith which true faith for to haue their is no other rule as Biblists say then by a preuial praire to consult the holy ghost out of the Bible Neither doth it helpe the Biblists to say that euery Christian may conceiue true faith by hearing of a minister preach or in reeding of their catechisme for these may err as biblists say therfore the holy ghost is to be consulted out of the scripture to the end they may vndoubtedlie know whether that the doctrine of their ministers cathecismies churches doe agree to the written word of God or disagree from the same The eleuenth consequence ALl Biblists of What sex and condition soeuer if they be ariued to the vse of discretion or haue their witts are bound vnder the paine of eternall damnation to councell the holy ghost out of the bible touching the nūber integritie version edition of the sacred bookes of both testamēts as also concerning all controuersies which apperteine to the integritie of faith Therfore all Christians of what sex and condition soeuer they be if come to the vse of discretion are sound in their witts are bound conforme to this biblists rule vnder the paine of eternall damnation to decide no less a list of controuersies apperteining to religion then the whole church of Christ hath decided in so many generall councels these 1500. yeares from the Apostes tyme till this age of ours Proofe FOr it hath hethertoe beene disputed vpon controuersies of religion more then these 1500. yeares decided in generall councell which articles were catholike which hereticall what doctrine apperteined to faith what not All which the Biblists auouching that the church can err generall councels can err doe manifestly call into doubt therfore all ech of them are oblidged to peruse the said doctrine conferr it with their bibles that they may by the consultation of the holy ghost in the scriptures seuer truth from falsitie to embrace that and reiect this as their priuate spirit suggesteth vnto them And out of these consequences ech Biblist may perceaue what à burhen he laieth on his back to what impossibilities he windeth himself in leauing the authoritie of the church reliing on his owne priuat spirit in expounding of the scriptures though the scripture contrariewise doth tell vs in the epistle of S. Peeter that no scripture is to be declared by priuate interpretation THE FOVRTH CHAPTER Other consequences be deduced vvhere by it may euidently appeare vvhat meanes helpes ech Biblist may haue to ease him of this burthen dischardge his dueties I Will heere omitt to consider what witt iudgment learning laisure other humane helpes ech Biblist may haue to dischardge this taske taken vpon him of what sex age or condition soeuer he may be without which helpes it is not possible to consult the holy ghost out of the bible nor decide all those controuersies which apperteine to the integritie of faith which haue beene disputed vpon these 1500. yeares decided by the church Let ech of them iudg a part by himself what witt iudgment laisure learning c. he may haue to fulfill this taske and dischardge his dutie in the meane tyme I will suppose
haue Nor doth it preiudice this consequence that in manie places we behold the companies of these Biblists verie quiet in some order amoung themselues as Lutherans in Saxonie Protestants in England for this proceedeth because that the promiscuous multitude of Biblists in these places giue credit to theire ministers or bee constrained to keepe quarter by the Augustane Confession or by the statutes of a parliament which none for feare of punishment dare openly call in doubt for this cause there be verie few who consulting the holy ghost out of the scripture haue courage to censure whether the doctrines propounded them to beleeue by ministers or by the Augustane Confession or by the statutes of a parliament doe cohere with the word of God or disagree from the same They had rather incurr guiltienes of conscience then a proemunire But indeed to bee plaine while these Biblists not first consulting the holy ghost out of their Bible doe out of negligence or feare giue credit to theire parsons or to parliament edicts or such like statutes concerning matters of faithtt is impossible for them to haue any true faith in regard they found their faith vpon them who may err in faith for ministers Bishops Parliaments congregations generall councels all may err in faith all be deceiued deceiue according to the Biblists rule yet in those place where this inward annointment hath free vttrance and the priuate spirit domineereth all things in religion be turned vpside downe all disquieted quite put out of order so much the more as the witts of those Biblists which consult the holy ghost out of the scripture are more subtile eminent which is so apparant by daylie practise that to god about to prooue the same were to light a candell at mid day THE SIXT CHAPTER Other necessarie consequences be deduced vvhence vve may gather vvhat a manner of church the church of Christ vvas from the Apostles tymes to our dayes if it bee censured as the Biblists rule of beleefe doth sett doune SVCH certes as I haue deciplered must the congregation of Christians be who make one body of a church as the Biblists rule of beleefe doth sett doune Now it resteth to deduce other consequences out of the same rule of beleefe werby it may appeare what a fasshioned church according to their rule was the church of Christ from the Apostles age downwards euen to Luthers reuolt for if following the rule of succession so many ages euen to our dayes are spred al the world ouer surely we must be compelled to deduce therout most horrible fearfull consequenees such as would fright a man to reade them The first consequence ALl councells as well generale as nationall yea approued confirmed by the Bishop of Roome may err in faith ech Christian is bound vnder the paine of eternall damnation before such tyme as he giue credit to any of those generall councels to consult the holy ghost out of the scriptures so to iudg whether that they doe agree to the word of God or disagree from the same Therfore all generall councels in what manner soeuer they haue beene celebrated in the church of God haue vsurped practised most detestable tyranie ouer the whole church of Christ contrary to the word of God Because these generall councels did not only excommunicate but also by the helpe of secular power did condemne put to death those Biblists who consulting the holie ghost out of the scriptures dared to denie or call in doubt the decrees of the said councel which concerned matters of faith Also they mooued cruell bloodie wars against those princes kings Emperors who dared to gaine say the doctrine of those councels in matters of faith See the cuncell of Nice ann 325. in which Arrius was condemned who out of the holie scriptures as hee sayd denied the diuinitie of Christ See the councel of Constantinople an 383 in which Macedonius was condemned who out of the Bible denied the diuinitie of the holy ghost See the first councel of Ephesus an 434. in which Nestorius of Constantinople was condemned who out of the Bible did affirme that there was 2. persons in Christ See the first councell of Calcedon an 454. in which Eutyches the Archimandrite was condemned of heresie who out of the scriptures sayd that the images of Christ his Saints were not to be honored Neither did they cōdemne one or two but an innumerable number of Christians who followed those heresiarchs nor were they of the vulgar sort but a manie of them were Bishops Archbishops Patriarchs yea Princes kings Emperors all which those fathers of the councel did without any dread condemne for hereticks in the name of Christ and pronouncing an Anathema vpon them cutt them quite of from the church of Christ Both tyme leisure would faile mee if I should goe about to reckne vp all generall counsels to shew yt a perpetuall practise rule of the church of Christ that Generall counsels should decide matters of faith declare to all Christians what they were bound to beleeue what not to beleeue condemning all ech that durst be so bould as to gaine-say them or with stand their decrees Now if those fathers of generall counsels had non such right to doe this first at generall counsels hether to celebrated in the church of Christ erred in faith then they alwayes practised a most violent exectable tyrannie euer all the flock of Christ in vsurping an vniust iurisdiction by force might in condemning scoffing at this annointment of the spirit of God which ech Biblist presumeth for to haue to be inwardly taught by the said spirit out of the scriptures The Second consequence ALl generall councels in what manner soeuer they were celebrated in the church of God exercised a detestable tyranie ouer all the whole church of God contrary to the Bible according to the Biblists rule Therfore all heresies that euer were condemned by generall councels be heerby caled into doubt whether that they were iustly condemned or not Proofe BEcause that those generall councels had no right to cōdemne any doctrine but that office apparteined to ech Christian as also consulting the holy ghost out of the bible to examin euen the decrees of generall councels themselues And therfore the sentence of those councels which condemned hereticks in this respect was vniust because it was vtred by those who had no right nor iurisdiction to doe it for that sentence did by diuine right apperteine to the censure of the holy ghost who resyding in the mind of ech Biblists as a iudg sitting on a bench doth by meanes of the Bible giue sentence out of there mouths about the doctrines of men But to the end that the Biblists may by some smal coniecture perceiue how many monstrous heresies would reuiue againe in this church if this there rule of beleefe were auaylable I will only mention at this