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A17912 A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, prooved by the nonconformists principles Specially opposed vnto Dr. Ames, his Fresh suit against humane ceremonies, in the point of separation only. Also Dr. Laiton, Mr. Dayrel, and Mr. Bradshaw, are here answered, wherein they have written against us. With a table in the later end, of the principal occurrents in this treatise. By Iohn Canne, pastor of the ancient English church, in Amsterdam. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1634 (1634) STC 4574; ESTC S117015 174,263 303

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the_o gross_a offence_n that_o be_v until_o the_o offender_n have_v say_v as_o much_o 28._o for_o himself_o as_o he_o possible_o be_v able_a for_o it_o be_v a_o evident_a character_n of_o a_o corrupt_a ecclesiastical_a government_n where_o the_o party_n convent_v may_v not_o have_v full_a liberty_n to_o speak_v for_o themselves_o consider_v that_o the_o more_o liberty_n be_v grant_v to_o 10._o speak_v in_o a_o bad_a cause_n especial_o before_o those_o that_o be_v in_o authority_n and_o of_o judgement_n the_o more_o the_o iniquity_n of_o it_o will_v appear_v and_o the_o more_o the_o justice_n of_o their_o sentence_n will_v shine_v again_o excommunication_n must_v not_o be_v use_v but_o as_o the_o last_o and_o desperate_a remedy_n even_o as_o a_o chirurgeon_n try_v all_o gentle_a mean_n before_o lance_a sear_a or_o cut_v off_o indeed_o if_o the_o cause_n be_v great_a weighty_a and_o necessary_a than_o it_o may_v not_o be_v omit_v reason_n first_o for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n that_o it_o may_v appear_v his_o house_n to_o be_v no_o cage_n of_o unclean_a bird_n no_o sty_n of_o swine_n no_o den_n of_o thief_n no_o stew_n or_o brothelhouse_n but_o the_o holy_a city_n the_o seat_n &_o throne_n of_o justice_n the_o temple_n of_o the_o live_a god_n where_o the_o chaste_a virgin_n worship_v &_o where_o no_o cananite_n may_v be_v suffer_v 2._o that_o the_o worship_n and_o service_n of_o god_n may_v be_v keep_v and_o preserve_v from_o pollution_n contempt_n and_o profanation_n 3._o for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o sinner_n himself_o that_o he_o may_v see_v his_o fault_n be_v ashamed_a thereof_o and_o reconcile_v himself_o first_o to_o god_n and_o then_o unto_o the_o church_n against_o who_o he_o offend_v and_o so_o be_v save_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n so_o long_o as_o a_o harlot_n have_v free_o the_o society_n of_o chaste_a matron_n she_o take_v no_o shame_n of_o her_o adultery_n but_o when_o all_o honest_a woman_n reject_v she_o then_o at_o last_o etc._n etc._n so_o a_o thief_n if_o he_o be_v suffer_v to_o converse_v still_o with_o true_a before_o man_n to_o have_v his_o liberty_n in_o city_n and_o country_n to_o the_o full_a he_o will_v not_o be_v ashamed_a of_o his_o robbery_n murder_n etc._n etc._n but_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v just_a so_o in_o this_o cause_n if_o open_a sinner_n be_v suffer_v in_o the_o church_n and_o admit_v to_o public_a and_o private_a communion_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o religion_n certain_o then_o though_o they_o declare_v their_o sin_n as_o sodom_n and_o hide_v it_o not_o yet_o they_o will_v not_o be_v ashamed_a of_o it_o but_o rather_o think_v they_o have_v not_o sin_v or_o it_o be_v so_o light_a and_o small_a as_o they_o need_v not_o make_v any_o matter_n thereof_o 4._o the_o honour_n and_o the_o good_a name_n of_o the_o church_n be_v hereby_o preserve_v which_o will_v be_v lose_v if_o vile_a person_n be_v leave_v alone_o therein_o 5._o that_o other_o may_v fcare_v for_o if_o 25_o this_o course_n be_v omit_v it_o may_v be_v a_o mean_n to_o embolden_v many_o to_o do_v the_o like_a a_o member_n be_v thus_o just_o excommunicate_v he_o be_v not_o to_o partake_v in_o the_o spiritual_a good_a thing_n which_o the_o lord_n communicate_v in_o his_o church_n as_o the_o sacrament_n prayer_n etc._n etc._n yet_o he_o may_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n because_o that_o be_v a_o mean_n to_o humble_v he_o for_o his_o sin_n and_o to_o bring_v he_o to_o repentance_n which_o be_v the_o end_n of_o all_o ecclesiast_n censure_n moreover_o the_o rest_n of_o 52._o the_o faithful_a must_v avoid_v all_o kind_n of_o familiar_a conversation_n with_o he_o be_v it_o in_o eat_v drink_v buy_v and_o sell_v yea_o in_o salute_v and_o talk_v with_o he_o so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v unto_o he_o in_o any_o of_o the_o band_n of_o civil_a right_n and_o society_n i_o add_v this_o because_o excommunication_n unloose_v it_o not_o but_o such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o family_n or_o affinitic_a must_v perform_v all_o duty_n to_o such_o a_o one_o which_o such_o a_o relation_n have_v make_v his_o due_n the_o husband_n to_o the_o wife_n and_o the_o wife_n to_o the_o husband_n the_o child_n to_o the_o father_n the_o servant_n to_o the_o master_n etc._n etc._n so_o a_o excommunicate_a magistrate_n remain_v a_o magistrate_n still_o and_o 710._o must_v of_o all_o christian_n so_o be_v acknowledge_v beside_o all_o lawful_a contract_n and_o promise_n must_v be_v keep_v and_o perform_v with_o he_o &_o work_n of_o mercy_n show_v to_o he_o if_o there_o be_v just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n if_o the_o offender_n afterward_o shall_v see_v his_o sin_n and_o desire_v to_o be_v take_v 35._o again_o into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o saint_n the_o church_n be_v to_o assent_v thereto_o willing_o yet_o so_o as_o the_o party_n make_v public_a repentance_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o the_o offence_n a_o verbal_a profession_n of_o repentance_n suffice_v not_o for_o 17._o so_o the_o most_o holy_a institution_n of_o god_n be_v expose_v to_o the_o mockage_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o the_o action_n of_o the_o church_n place_v only_o in_o a_o outward_a form_n therefore_o such_o evidence_n be_v require_v which_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n do_v declare_v true_a and_o sincere_a repentance_n and_o which_o serve_v as_o probable_a witness_n of_o the_o thing_n be_v it_o here_o special_o note_v that_o excommunication_n and_o the_o absolution_n or_o reconciliation_n of_o the_o excommunicate_a be_v action_n common_a to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o not_o of_o any_o private_a person_n or_o person_n for_o howsoever_o the_o elder_n for_o the_o peace_n profitt_a and_o good_a order_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o administer_v these_o ordinance_n yet_o the_o whole_a church_n must_v give_v their_o consent_n free_o hereto_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o after_o till_o the_o year_n 250._o every_o man_n that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n have_v in_o the_o church_n his_o voice_n in_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n cause_n and_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n christ_n do_v not_o say_v when_o there_o be_v cause_n of_o accuse_v or_o censure_v any_o tell_v the_o bishop_n but_o tell_v the_o church_n and_o accord_o in_o the_o 6._o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o long_o after_o as_o the_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_n do_v manifest_a they_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o word_n in_o a_o assembly_n of_o presbyter_n and_o brethren_n as_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a which_o show_v we_o that_o neither_o one_o man_n 4_o nor_o the_o presbyter_n alone_o be_v judge_n in_o such_o cause_n but_o church_n which_o by_o scripture_n either_o clear_v or_o censure_v any_o person_n accuse_v as_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n he_o appear_v either_o guilty_a or_o not_o guilty_a etc._n etc._n many_o reason_n be_v yield_v by_o the_o nonconformist_n to_o prove_v this_o thing_n and_o all_o objection_n make_v against_o it_o sound_o answer_v and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o learned_a allege_v for_o it_o as_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v large_o in_o their_o book_n name_v in_o the_o margin_n the_o like_a they_o speak_v touch_v the_o admission_n of_o any_o member_n into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n that_o person_n which_o be_v to_o be_v join_v ought_v public_o to_o come_v before_o the_o face_n of_o the_o congregation_n and_o there_o to_o be_v examine_v of_o his_o faith_n knowledge_n etc._n etc._n and_o be_v find_v meet_a by_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n he_o be_v joyfullie_o receive_v but_o of_o this_o more_o hereafter_o moreover_o if_o the_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n shall_v refuse_v to_o do_v their_o duty_n yet_o may_v the_o brethren_n notwithstanding_o perform_v church_n action_n and_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v good_a and_o lawful_a to_o come_v unto_o a_o conclusion_n this_o form_n of_o church_n government_n here_o describe_v be_v unchangeable_a ordinary_a best_a and_o perpetual_a common_a to_o all_o true_a church_n and_o to_o which_o all_o state_n must_v be_v subject_a as_o well_o the_o ruler_n as_o they_o that_o be_v rule_v yea_o and_o the_o 17._o preacher_n themselves_o as_o well_o as_o the_o poor_a within_o the_o church_n and_o good_a reason_n for_o the_o same_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n indifferent_a as_o some_o think_v but_o a_o point_n of_o the_o gospel_n yea_o of_o the_o substance_n thereof_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n i_o mean_v in_o such_o a_o absolute_a degree_n of_o necessity_n as_o be_v of_o any_o ordinary_a outward_a mean_n especial_o to_o every_o church_n and_o by_o consequence_n to_o every_o soul_n in_o it_o and_o therefore_o as_o no_o common_a wealth_n can_v flourish_v or_o long_o endure_v without_o good_a law_n and_o sharp_a execution_n of_o the_o same_o so_o neither_o can_v the_o church_n 50._o
say_v the_o learned_a but_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v unlawful_a 3_o and_o antichristian_a say_v mr._n dr._n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v lawful_a to_o separate_v from_o it_o 111._o if_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o christ_n key_n she_o be_v not_o his_o house_n say_v mr._n dr._n but_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o 181._o christ_n key_n say_v mr._n brightman_n and_o other_o ergo_fw-la she_o be_v not_o his_o house_n and_o so_o consequent_o to_o be_v separate_v from_o to_o separate_v from_o corruption_n be_v lawful_a say_v mr._n dr._n the_o ministry_n worship_n and_o church_n government_n of_o england_n be_v corruption_n say_v mr._n dr._n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v lawful_a to_o separate_v from_o the_o ministry_n worship_n and_o church_n government_n of_o england_n i_o do_v not_o gather_v up_o these_o his_o argument_n for_o any_o need_n we_o have_v of_o they_o but_o to_o put_v he_o in_o mind_n of_o his_o own_o take_v heed_n for_o if_o he_o say_v one_o thing_n and_o do_v another_o he_o may_v perhaps_o at_o last_o fall_v worse_o than_o upon_o the_o quick_a sand_n of_o separation_n even_o into_o the_o bottomless_a pit_n of_o condemnation_n and_o whereas_o i_o perceive_v he_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o be_v compare_v to_o barrow_n for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o not_o willing_a that_o he_o shall_v for_o reverend_a barrow_n be_v true_a to_o his_o ground_n and_o walk_v conscionable_a in_o the_o holte_n order_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o which_o order_n mr._n dr._n have_v be_v hitherto_o a_o utter_a enemy_n but_o for_o what_o reason_n let_v himself_o look_v to_o it_o i_o have_v speak_v the_o more_o because_o of_o this_o man_n insolent_a boast_n against_o we_o and_o the_o untrue_a report_n which_o he_o give_v forth_o of_o refute_v the_o chief_a separatist_n i_o hope_v now_o the_o world_n shall_v see_v what_o ability_n he_o have_v in_o this_o thing_n or_o otherwise_o all_o will_v have_v just_a cause_n to_o conclude_v that_o mr._n dr._n will_v speak_v more_o to_o his_o good_a friend_n in_o private_a against_o we_o than_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o have_v publicklie_o know_v to_o receive_v a_o answer_n to_o it_o our_o three_o inference_n be_v if_o church_n government_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n as_o be_v any_o outward_a ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o whole_o want_v in_o the_o assembly_n of_o of_o england_n than_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a there_o shake_v off_o the_o prelate_n yoke_n to_o erect_v this_o power_n and_o exercise_v the_o same_o among_o they_o i_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o any_o private_a person_n shall_v meddle_v with_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o realm_n but_o that_o every_o one_o in_o his_o own_o person_n do_v place_n himself_o about_o the_o throne_n of_o god_n leave_v the_o abuse_n of_o the_o public_a state_n to_o be_v reform_v by_o such_o as_o have_v a_o lawful_a call_n thereto_o it_o be_v certain_a this_o ordinance_n must_v be_v set_v up_o retain_v and_o practise_v though_o prince_n be_v utterlie_o against_o it_o we_o must_v not_o tarry_v one_o hour_n to_o expect_v a_o new_a grant_n from_o man_n to_o do_v our_o duty_n in_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n when_o as_o we_o have_v a_o sufficient_a grant_n already_o from_o heaven_n for_o if_o we_o do_v we_o shall_v sure_o die_v in_o our_o sin_n and_o our_o blood_n shall_v be_v upon_o our_o own_o head_n the_o primitive_a christian_n have_v not_o the_o magistrate_n leave_v to_o serve_v god_n yet_o they_o do_v whatsoever_o he_o command_v they_o their_o practice_n be_v a_o example_n for_o we_o and_o all_o believer_n be_v bind_v to_o do_v the_o like_a as_o often_o as_o there_o be_v the_o like_a just_a and_o necessary_a occasion_n for_o as_o the_o approbation_n of_o man_n and_o angel_n make_v the_o way_n of_o god_n and_o work_n of_o religion_n never_o a_o whit_n the_o more_o lawful_a but_o only_o the_o more_o free_a from_o bodily_a danger_n so_o neither_o can_v their_o disalowance_n make_v unlawful_a such_o duty_n of_o religion_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n approve_v nor_o can_v they_o give_v dispensation_n to_o any_o person_n to_o forbear_v the_o practice_n thereof_o but_o because_o my_o purpose_n chief_o be_v to_o show_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n touch_v religious_a ordinance_n and_o the_o use_n and_o practice_v thereof_o i_o will_v therefore_o lay_v down_o their_o word_n that_o so_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o 42._o well_o they_o and_o we_o in_o these_o thing_n do_v accord_n except_o in_o obedience_n the_o magistrate_n say_v they_o be_v but_o the_o servant_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o have_v no_o power_n to_o bind_v the_o the_o conscience_n neither_o can_v he_o exempt_v any_o man_n from_o obedience_n to_o god_n another_o say_v if_o the_o law_n of_o man_n be_v want_v yet_o the_o church_n must_v not_o cease_v from_o do_v her_o duty_n and_o exercise_v her_o power_n which_o be_v grant_v she_o by_o christ_n who_o have_v also_o promise_v 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