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A00631 An antiquodlibet, or An aduertisement to beware of secular priests Fenner, Dudley, 1558?-1587, attributed name.; Udall, John, 1560?-1592, attributed name'. 1602 (1602) STC 10765; ESTC S117686 60,651 170

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conceyue that they will ingage themselues in a warre for toleration and will attempt nothing for an absolute and perfit reformation It is this latter and not the former that is in speciall regarde with them if in this behalfe they haue been ●ed at all with apprehensions of Religion Hauing therefore in the case of toleration not attayned to theyr disseignements we cannot with probality thinke of any readines on theyr part to a surcease of hostility but they will continew the same eyther publikely as before or secretly by way of indirect practises the oportunity and meanes for interteyning whereof the sayd toleration will fitly minister and supply vnto them The fift reason to perswade toleration is this Vpon graunt of toleration the platforme for establishing the Iesuits monarchy ouer the whole world would bee frustrated Her Maiestie therefore may with good reason embrace it Here first the Antecedent doth suppose the Iesuits in so deepe a melancholy as to dreame of a Monarchy not ouer the parts of Europe only but ouer the whole globe of the ear●h which is altogether improbable considering the reputation they cary for wisdome and discretion Secondly the compassing of such a monarchy is a meere impossibily and therefore the reason taken from thence of no force to perswade Thirdly in case it were a matter possible yet would there fall out so many yeeres betwixt the platforme and the reall existence thereof as that wee should not need for feare of the same to shew the Seculars the least curtesie much lesse runne a course of speciall dishonour and preiudice Fourthly if the possibility thereof were such as the erection of it amongst vs were not otherwise impeachable then by admittance of the sayd toleration yet for as much as the mayne end of toleration aymed at within her Maiesties dominions is one and the same with the scope and drift of the Iesuits viz. the reestablishment of Antichristianity with the subuersion of the Gospell and the State for the effecting whereof the course in question would bee a fit and seruiceable instrument to the Iesuit it were no lesse a phrensie to intertaine toleration vpon any such respect and ground then for preuenting the miscariage of a ship to sayle from Scilla to Charibdi● But what confirmation hath the Quilibet yeelded to the sayd Antecedent If it be not of better strength then the in●erence depending thereon it is not answerable to the credit of his reuerend priesthood Such as I finde it shall be presented to examination In this manner then hee disputeth What course will be a meane for establishing Catholike Bishops in England the same will frustrate the platforme of the Iesuiticall Monarchy But toleration will be a meane for establishing Catholike Bishops in England Toleration therefore will frustrate the sayd platforme Were he not a Secular Priest that is a professed enemie to the Gospell and the present gouernment I should thinke hee did in this argument collude and betray the cause he hath in hand For if toleration draw with it into allowance within the Realme the office and iurisdiction of Popish Bishops then as the authority and commission of the most reuerend Fathers and worthy Prelates of this Church will grow short and limited they being not to deale with persons and causes subiect to this new Romish Court and Hyerarchy so likewise will there ensue an vnsufferable incrochment vpon her Maiesties scepter and soueraignety these new Bishops being to represent and supply the person and office of the Pope in all such affayres as shall concerne his supremacy But let vs examine the Quilibets reason The proposition we may iustly deny For if the Bishops established be Iesuited in affection or otherwise commaunded by the Pope rather to giue furtherance then any impediment to the sayd platforme then can it not be true that such course will furstrate the designes of Iesuits in this behalfe and interrupt all dependency vppon them as will serue for erection of a Popish prelacie The sixt motiue for toleration whereto I will adde that which hee setteth downe for the eleuenth hath this conclusion What course will be a meane to discouer al malicious deuices plots and conspiracies agaynst her Maiestie and the State the same she should in reason admit and imbrace But toleration will be a meane to discouer all malicious deuices and plots agaynst her Maiestie and the State Toleration therefore should her Maiestie in reason admit and imbrace Hee cannot with any arte so colour the Proposition but that the fraude thereof will forthwith appeare if we shall examine it by the square or rule of the maxims aboue remembred For if wee may not walke in the trayne of sinne and disobedience to God that thereby some aduauntage may grow vnto vs in our particular and further if it be a grosse error in policy for the preuention of an accidentary perill to make choyse of a certaine mischiefe then cannot her Maiesty for the stay of proiects and confederacies they being incertayne for theyr birth and cariage as also liable to disappoyntment by the gracious prouidence of the Almighty and such politique meanes as haue formerly in like cases been vsed allow intertaynment and place to toleration Neyther is there lesse deceit offered vs in the Assumption For if the free exercise of Popery will double in Romanists theyr alleageance and deuotion to the Pope trebble theyr detestation to our Religion nourish and rayse theyr desires of a full and entire reestablishment that they may be in theyr professions and estates secured agaynst all daungers of future alteration how can it be probable that they will contrary to the approbation of theyr conscience and preiudicially to the publique good of theyr Church and theyr priuate interests tender such aduertisements and discoueries as is pretended Theyr exercises of religion being of the quality and operation as is remembred will they the more they malice vs and our profession be so much the more ready to doe offices of extraordinary benefit and aduauntage to vs and it Will they the more they loue theyr religion and honour the Pope so much the more indeauour to frustrate the aduauncement both of the one and the other And will they hauing as it were gayned the wall and places of speciall strength in the siege of our Ierusalem sound the retraite and proceede no further If the Marchant or Marriner should tell vs that after a long and tedious Nauigation being within ken of the port wished for hee would rest satisfied with the sight of the same a farre of and so lay aside all purpose and crosse all meanes of attayning thereto wee could not beleeue him nor conceyue him to be so phranticke and senseles in his apprehensions The like opinion wee are to haue of the Seculars in this tale they propound vnto vs of discouering practises and conspiracies Besides it being supposed that the Seculars and others so affected as they are will be ready to doe seruice to the State in this poynt