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A14688 A treatise of Antichrist Conteyning the defence of Cardinall Bellarmines arguments, which inuincibly demonstrate, that the pope is not Antichrist. Against M. George Downam D. of Diuinity, who impugneth the same. By Michael Christopherson priest. The first part. Walpole, Michael, 1570-1624? 1613 (1613) STC 24993; ESTC S114888 338,806 434

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reverence_n as_o gen._n 28._o 17._o deut._n 7._o 21._o and_o so_o be_v translate_v by_o tremelius_fw-la and_o junius_n in_o this_o place_n of_o malachi_n and_o thus_o both_o that_o word_n and_o other_o of_o the_o same_o root_n be_v use_v in_o the_o signification_n of_o reverence_n or_o filial_a fear_n and_o he_o cit_v in_o the_o margin_n psal_n 13._o 4._o but_o m._n downam_n must_v know_v that_o we_o esteem_v more_o of_o s._n hierome_n and_o other_o ancient_a interpreter_n then_o of_o his_o new_a tremelius_fw-la and_o junius_n who_o we_o doubt_v not_o will_v favour_v their_o new_a opinion_n so_o much_o as_o they_o may_v by_o any_o colour_n they_o can_v devise_v wherefore_o since_o the_o word_n may_v signify_v both_o reverence_n and_o terror_n and_o beside_o most_o
which_o interpret_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v in_o no_o sort_n deny_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v also_o sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n yea_o the_o great_a part_n do_v express_o affirm_v it_o and_o beside_o by_o the_o church_n of_o god_n they_o understand_v not_o the_o christian_a and_o catholic_a 13._o see_v cap._n 13._o people_n but_o the_o material_a church_n erect_v in_o the_o honour_n of_o christ_n which_o bellarmine_n prove_v so_o plain_o that_o m._n downam_n think_v it_o his_o best_a course_n to_o pass_v it_o over_o in_o silence_n without_o give_v he_o any_o answer_n at_o all_o or_o take_v any_o notice_n of_o any_o such_o proof_n and_o the_o second_o point_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v different_a from_o the_o former_a be_v affirm_v also_o by_o we_o for_o we_o only_o differ_v from_o the_o protestant_n in_o that_o they_o affirm_v that_o antichrist_n be_v to_o be_v reveal_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o we_o also_o 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that_o which_o bellarmine_n affirm_v do_v not_o m._n downam_n give_v we_o the_o father_n conjecture_n and_o exposition_n and_o take_v to_o himself_o the_o scripture_n expound_v by_o the_o event_n which_o the_o father_n be_v not_o able_a to_o foresee_v and_o consequent_o these_o exposition_n by_o the_o event_n must_v needs_o be_v since_o the_o father_n day_n and_o therefore_o right_o call_v by_o bellarmine_n new_a gloss_n and_o how_o false_a they_o be_v appear_v sufficient_o by_o their_o contrariety_n to_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o father_n and_o by_o the_o confutation_n of_o bellarmine_n for_o this_o device_n of_o m._n downam_n to_o make_v his_o exposition_n good_a by_o the_o event_n be_v no_o more_o in_o effect_n but_o to_o say_v that_o he_o will_v first_o suppose_v as_o certain_a out_o of_o his_o own_o head_n and_o without_o all_o scripture_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n and_o then_o afterward_o he_o will_v make_v the_o scripture_n say_v so_o by_o one_o device_n or_o 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shall_v judge_n 5._o see_v part_n 2._o c._n 5._o after_o they_o be_v examine_v and_o perhaps_o find_v they_o not_o so_o good_a as_o m._n downam_n imagine_v now_o let_v we_o examine_v his_o second_o charge_n against_o bellarmine_n in_o defence_n of_o illyricus_n which_o be_v that_o he_o deprave_v his_o first_o reason_n which_o be_v not_o say_v he_o because_o the_o illyricus_n downam_n can_v defend_v illyricus_n pope_n make_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o vicar_n of_o christ_n but_o this_o because_o he_o vaunt_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o vicar_n of_o christ_n do_v notwithstanding_o usurp_v great_a authority_n than_o the_o son_n of_o god_n claim_v unto_o himself_o of_o which_o that_o which_o bellarmine_n allege_v as_o a_o second_o reason_n be_v by_o illyricus_n add_v as_o a_o proof_n but_o why_o then_o do_v illyricus_n allege_v our_o saviour_n xxiv_o xxii_o xxiii_o xxiv_o to_o expound_v s._n paul_n which_o bellarmine_n show_v to_o be_v a_o threefould_a absurdity_n and_o m._n downam_n answer_v not_o a_o word_n nor_o yet_o to_o bellarmine_n censure_n of_o the_o blindness_n and_o impudence_n either_o gal._n 4._o 4._o christ_n be_v say_v to_o be_v under_o the_o law_n luc._n 2._o 51._o to_o be_v subject_a to_o his_o parent_n because_o he_o observe_v &_o obey_v both_o not_o be_v bind_v to_o either_o of_o our_o adversary_n who_o some_o time_n utter_v such_o thing_n as_o be_v against_o common_a sense_n by_o which_o m._n downam_n seem_v to_o acknowledge_v that_o he_o have_v his_o share_n in_o both_o but_o no_o doubt_n we_o shall_v find_v a_o sound_a reply_n upon_o bellarmine_n answer_n to_o illyricus_n his_o second_o argument_n which_o m._n downam_n acknowledge_v to_o be_v his_o and_o repli_v by_o call_v it_o a_o impudent_a and_o shameless_a denial_n that_o christ_n subject_v himself_o to_o the_o law_n and_o word_n of_o god_n or_o that_o the_o pope_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o dispense_v with_o the_o scripture_n or_o that_o any_o catholik●_n writer_n have_v say_v that_o he_o may_v dispense_v with_o divine_a precept_n both_o which_o notwithstanding_o m._n downam_n say_v that_o he_o have_v else_o where_o prove_v by_o many_o instance_n and_o most_o evident_a allegation_n where_o by_o both_o he_o seem_v only_o to_o mean_v the_o two_o late_a and_o so_o we_o must_v take_v the_o first_o upon_o his_o poor_a credit_n which_o may_v perhaps_o have_v have_v some_o sway_n if_o he_o have_v answer_v bellarmine_n evident_a proof_n to_o the_o contrary_a or_o impugn_a his_o solution_n take_v out_o of_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o s._n augustine_n but_o 12._o see_v part_n 2._o c._n 5._o §._o 10._o 11._o 12._o since_o he_o be_v altogether_o silent_a in_o both_o the_o reader_n have_v good_a cause_n to_o suspect_v that_o he_o be_v so_o impudent_a and_o shameless_a that_o he_o will_v affirm_v that_o which_o he_o can_v neither_o prove_v nor_o defend_v and_o consequent_o at_o least_o suspend_v his_o judgement_n of_o those_o many_o instance_n and_o most_o evident_a allegation_n for_o the_o other_o two_o point_n which_o he_o boast_v of_o till_o we_o come_v to_o that_o place_n where_o they_o be_v to_o be_v examine_v and_o now_o for_o conclusion_n of_o this_o whole_a argument_n and_o discourse_n i_o will_v entreat_v the_o reader_n to_o consider_v his_o substantial_a reply_n against_o bellarmine_n answer_n concern_v illyricus_n his_o consequence_n for_o thus_o m._n downam_n write_v for_o that_o which_o he_o bellarmine_n add_v of_o christ_n his_o subiect_v himself_o to_o the_o prophecy_n and_o not_o to_o the_o precept_n as_o though_o illyricus_n have_v speak_v of_o the_o one_o in_o his_o proposition_n and_o of_o the_o other_o in_o the_o assumption_n it_o be_v partly_o false_a and_o partly_o ridiculous_a and_o indeed_o not_o worth_a the_o answer_n thus_o m._n downam_n as_o it_o seem_v in_o a_o great_a chafe_n at_o bellarmine_n unlearned_a answer_n but_o good_a sir_n vouchsafe_v out_o of_o your_o high_a wisdom_n to_o
many_o province_n of_o the_o people_n of_o rome_n s._n hierome_n make_v mention_n of_o this_o opinion_n in_o quaest_n heb_n cap._n 10._o and_o say_v whether_o it_o be_v true_a or_o no_o the_o end_n of_o the_o war_n will_v show_v and_o now_o doubtless_o the_o issue_n of_o the_o war_n have_v teach_v we_o that_o it_o be_v not_o true_a for_o neither_o have_v there_o follow_v any_o renew_n of_o the_o church_n after_o the_o war_n of_o the_o goth_n neither_o have_v all_o war_n cease_v the_o 8._o be_v of_o s._n hierome_n himself_o in_o cap._n 38._o ezech._n who_o see_v the_o difficulty_n omit_v the_o literal_a sense_n do_v mystical_o expound_v it_o of_o the_o heretic_n for_o he_o will_v have_v gog_n which_o in_o hebrew_n signify_v the_o house_n top_n to_o signify_v the_o heresiarche_n who_o like_v to_o the_o top_n of_o a_o house_n be_v lift_v up_o and_o proud_a and_o magog_n which_o be_v interpret_v of_o the_o top_n of_o a_o house_n to_o signify_v they_o who_o believe_v these_o arch-heretike_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o they_o as_o the_o house_n to_o the_o roof_n or_o top_n this_o opinion_n take_v for_o the_o mystical_a sense_n be_v most_o true_a but_o not_o in_o the_o literal_a for_o ezech._n cap._n 38._o say_v that_o gog_n shall_v come_v in_o the_o last_o year_n and_o s._n john_n apoc._n 20._o say_v that_o the_o same_o gog_n shall_v come_v after_o a_o thousand_o year_n and_o by_o the_o name_n of_o a_o thousand_o year_n all_o catholic_n understand_v all_o the_o time_n which_o be_v from_o christ_n come_v to_o antichrist_n since_o therefore_o gog_n shall_v not_o come_v but_o about_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o heresy_n begin_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n while_o the_o apostle_n live_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o proper_o and_o literal_o gog_n do_v not_o signify_v the_o heretic_n we_o must_v also_o know_v that_o s._n hierome_n when_o he_o say_v that_o gog_n be_v interpret_v a_o house_n roof_n and_o magog_n of_o a_o house_n roof_n mean_v not_o that_o gog_n and_o magog_n in_o hebrew_a be_v altogether_o the_o same_o that_o a_o house_n roof_n or_o of_o a_o house_n roof_n with_o we_o but_o he_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v in_o a_o manner_n the_o same_o for_o proper_o a_o house_n roof_n be_v not_o gog_n but_o gog_n and_o of_o a_o house_n roof_n be_v not_o magog_n but_o miggag_n the_o 9_o opinion_n be_v of_o s._n augustine_n lib._n 20._o de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la cap._n 11._o who_o by_o gog_n understand_v the_o devil_n who_o be_v like_o a_o great_a house_n roof_n that_o be_v a_o great_a house_n roof_n in_o which_o all_o the_o evil_a do_v dwell_v and_o by_o magog_n he_o understand_v the_o army_n of_o antichrist_n gather_v of_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n which_o opinion_n doutble_v be_v most_o true_a and_o to_o be_v embrace_v in_o that_o it_o refer_v gog_n and_o magog_n to_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n aswell_o because_o all_o catholic_a author_n which_o write_v upon_o the_o apocalyps_n do_v follow_v it_o as_o arethas_n primasius_n beda_n haym●_n rupertus_n richardus_fw-la anselmus_n and_o other_o as_o also_o because_o that_o all_o which_o be_v say_v by_o ezechiel_n and_o s._n john_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n do_v most_o right_o agree_v to_o antichrist_n for_o then_o true_o shall_v be_v the_o last_o and_o great_a persecution_n and_o after_o it_o shall_v jerusalem_n be_v renew_v that_o be_v the_o church_n glorify_v neither_o shall_v there_o any_o battle_n be_v hear_v of_o after_o but_o in_o that_o by_o gog_n it_o understand_v the_o devil_n it_o seem_v not_o true_a for_o s._n john_n say_v that_o the_o devil_n be_v let_v loose_a shall_v call_v gog_n and_o magog_n to_o war_n wherefore_o the_o devil_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o gog_n another_o wherefore_o our_o opinion_n which_o be_v the_o 10._o contain_v three_o thing_n first_o we_o affirm_v that_o the_o battle_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n be_v the_o battle_n of_o antichrist_n against_o the_o church_n as_o s._n augustine_n right_o teach_v second_o we_o say_v that_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o by_o gog_n antichrist_n himself_o be_v signify_v by_o magog_n his_o army_n for_o ezechiel_n always_o call_v gog_n a_o prince_n and_o magog_n a_o land_n or_o nation_n three_o we_o say_v that_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o gog_n be_v so_o call_v of_o magog_n and_o not_o contrariwise_o so_o that_o antichrist_n be_v call_v gog_n because_o he_o be_v prince_n of_o that_o nation_n which_o be_v call_v magog_n and_o that_o the_o army_n of_o antichrist_n be_v call_v magog_n of_o the_o scythian_a nation_n not_o that_o it_o consist_v of_o those_o scythian_n which_o the_o jew_n faygne_n to_o be_v beyond_o cancasus_fw-la and_o the_o caspian_a sea_n but_o either_o because_o a_o great_a part_n of_o antichrist_n army_n shall_v consist_v of_o barbarous_a people_n which_o come_v out_o of_o scythta_n as_o turk_n tartar_n and_o the_o rest_n or_o which_o i_o rather_o think_v because_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o very_a terrible_a and_o cruel_a army_n for_o we_o call_v they_o scythian_n which_o we_o will_v call_v bloody_a for_o that_o magog_n signify_v the_o scythian_a nation_n it_o be_v manifest_a out_o of_o genes_n 10._o where_o we_o read_v that_o the_o second_o son_n of_o japhet_n be_v call_v magog_n of_o who_o the_o country_n of_o magog_n be_v denominate_v which_o his_o posterity_n inhabit_v which_o be_v scythia_n as_o jasephus_n teach_v lib._n amiq._n cap._n 11._o and_o s._n hierome_n in_o quest_n hebr_n in_o gen._n cap._n 10._o for_o as_o from_o the_o three_o son_n of_o cham_n that_o be_v chus_n myrami_n and_o chanaham_n aethiopia_n be_v call_v chus_n egypt_n myrami_n and_o palestina_n chanaham_n so_o doubtless_o scythia_n be_v call_v magog_n of_o magog_n the_o son_n of_o japhet_n and_o that_o ezechiel_n name_v magog_n have_v relation_n to_o the_o nation_n denominate_v of_o magog_n the_o son_n of_o japhet_n it_o be_v manifest_a because_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o add_v as_o companion_n to_o gog_n other_o nation_n denominate_v of_o other_o son_n or_o nephew_n of_o japhet_n as_o gomer_n togorma_n mosoch_n tubal_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o let_v we_o conclude_v that_o the_o battle_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n be_v the_o last_o persecution_n which_o antichrist_n shall_v raise_v in_o the_o whole_a world_n against_o the_o church_n neither_o be_v it_o against_o we_o that_o ezech._n cap._n 38._o say_v that_o the_o weapon_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n shall_v be_v burn_v for_o the_o space_n of_o 7._o year_n whereas_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o after_o antichrist_n death_n there_o shall_v not_o be_v past_o 45._o day_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n as_o be_v gather_v out_o of_o daniel_n 12._o for_o ezechiel_n speak_v not_o proper_o but_o figurative_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o prophet_n neither_o mean_v he_o that_o indeed_o those_o weapon_n be_v to_o be_v burn_v for_o the_o space_n of_o 7._o year_n but_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o notable_a a_o overthrow_n that_o the_o lance_n and_o target_n of_o the_o slay_v may_v suffice_v a_o very_a long_a time_n to_o make_v fire_n if_o need_n be_v one_o doubt_n remain_v whether_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o most_o cruel_a persecution_n of_o antichrist_n the_o faith_n and_o religion_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v altogether_o extinguish_v for_o dominicus_n soto_n in_o lib._n 4._o scent_n do_v 46._o q._n 1._o art_n 1._o thought_n sure_o that_o it_o will_v be_v so_o the_o depart_a say_v he_o and_o defection_n from_o that_o seae_n shall_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n and_o after_o faith_n be_v extinguish_v by_o the_o departure_n from_o that_o sea_n apostolic_a the_o whole_a world_n shall_v be_v vain_a and_o shall_v without_o cause_n continue_v any_o long_o and_o after_o let_v therefore_o man_n be_v astonish_v how_o pestilent_a self_n love_n be_v for_o thence_o flow_v puss_v up_o and_o pride_n which_o under_o the_o conduct_n of_o antichrist_n shall_v at_o length_n consume_v the_o city_n of_o god_n but_o this_o opinion_n in_o my_o judgement_n can_v be_v defend_v for_o first_o it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o s._n augustine_n who_o lib._n 20._o the_o civet_n dei_fw-la cap_n 11._o say_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v ever_o invincible_a against_o antichrist_n neither_o shall_v she_o say_v he_o forsake_v her_o warfare_n who_o be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o tent_n second_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o also_o to_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o gospel_n for_o matth._n 16._o we_o read_v upon_o this_o book_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v nor_o prevail_v against_o she_o but_o how_o shall_v they_o not_o prevail_v if_o they_o shall_v whole_o extinguish_v she_o likewise_o matth._n 24._o our_o lord_n say_v of_o the_o minister_n of_o antichrist_n they_o shall_v give_v great_a
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