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prof._n augustine_n in_o sentenc_n prof._n say_v it_o be_v incredible_a that_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v take_v by_o lie_n who_o lie_v to_o take_v other_o or_o as_o s._n basil_n eun._n basil_n lib._n 1._o cont_n eun._n have_v so_o it_o be_v that_o evil_o be_v not_o only_o contrary_a to_o good_a but_o also_o to_o itself_o and_o luther_n genes_n luther_n in_o cap._n 12._o mat._n in_o cap._n 4._o &_o 37._o genes_n himself_o there_o be_v no_o heretic_n who_o be_v not_o find_v of_o spiritual_a man_n to_o speak_v against_o himself_o in_o his_o lie_n and_o else_o where_o this_o happen_v to_o the_o wicked_a that_o by_o lie_v they_o can_v beware_v not_o to_o bewray_v themselves_o by_o their_o word_n they_o lie_v some_o while_n a_o sometime_o but_o continual_o they_o can_v at_o last_o lie_v bewray_v themselves_o especial_o with_o they_o who_o mark_n and_o observe_v for_o there_o escape_v some_o word_n from_o they_o with_o which_o they_o be_v take_v the_o same_o confess_v ult._n confess_v resp_n ad_fw-la nebul._n &_o admon_a ult._n caluin_n 421._o caluin_n cont._n castel_n p._n 421._o beza_n 8._o beza_n cont._n 1._o q._n 2._o c._n 3._o &_o q._n 5._o c._n 8._o whitaker_n and_o other_o another_o cause_n be_v because_o protestant_n as_o heretic_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v and_o 126._o and_o zuin._n â—_o de_fw-fr relig_n c._n de_fw-fr euch._n hospin_n part_n 2._o fol_z 90._o colloq_fw-la aldeb_n fol._n 154._o schusselb_n tom_fw-mi 7._o catal_a p._n 126._o themselves_o confess_v that_o they_o practise_v it_o accommodate_v their_o say_n and_o doctrine_n to_o time_n place_n and_o occasion_n &_o therefore_o utter_v those_o say_n which_o we_o here_o allege_v before_o who_o and_o when_o they_o think_v they_o will_v make_v to_o their_o purpose_n but_o where_o they_o see_v they_o will_v hurt_v their_o cause_n either_o they_o deny_v they_o or_o seek_v by_o frivolous_a and_o fond_a exposition_n to_o avoid_v and_o delude_v they_o so_o the_o donatist_n as_o collat_n as_o lib._n ad_fw-la donat._n 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