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A10748 A treatise of ecclesiasticall and politike povver Shewing, the church is a monarchicall gouernment, ordained to a supernaturall and spirituall end, tempered with an aristocraticall order, (which is the best of all and most conformable to nature) by the great pastor of soules Iesus Christ. Faithfully translated out of the Latin originall, of late publikely printed and allowed in Paris. Now set foorth for a further warrant and encouragement to the Romish Catholikes of England, for theyr taking of the Oath of Allegiance; seeing so many others of their owne profession in other countries doe deny the Popes infalibility in indgement and temporall power ouer princes, directly against the doctrine of Iesuits. To the prince.; De ecclesiastica et politica potestate. English Richer, Edmond. 1612 (1612) STC 21024; ESTC S102957 32,246 64

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godly Princes haue giuen him though he cannot show nor who nor how nor when so that he acknowledge it at least vse it as a free gift and not like a desperate vngratefull rebell to the preiudice of the heyrs of his benefactors For in that case the gifts of Princes are not as the gifts of God and be they neuer so firmely sealed neuer so auncient or pleading prescription are euer and most lawfully subiect to a iust resumption But if still through shame or mallice he be loth to accept of these most reasonable termes be brought againe to his first estate thogh glorious enough for any temperate ambition I meane to that which hee hath by the foure former generall Councels and by the Emperours of those times for otherwise to reduce him to that which hee hath by S. Peter if euen hee haue any thing by S. Peter it were but a poore and verie beggerlie thing Finally if hee will not voluntarily forgoe all vsurpation or abuse neuer so auncient or moderne let him be most iustl● depriued thereof as a preuaricator and bee brought by meere force to that which he should voluntarily and wisely yeeld vnto by right Whereupon strengthned now the more with the opinions of that famous Societie which is no lesse then a little continually standing Councell in France allowed by the Pope himselfe I conclude still with the French Herald to a generall Croisade against him that is now become the great enemy of Christendome And that the executiō of the decrees of that blessed councell being put into your Princely hands as the Lieftenant general of the high Defender of the faith the whole Catholike Church sighing and panting vnder the heauy loade of that cruell tyranny may for euer be beholding to your valor and extoll you as the restorer of her liberty Vp then vp braue Prince the eyes of all Christendome are now cast vpon you to see you beginne you shall not want friends and followers euen more then you thinke euen more then perhaps you looke for Those that now dare not shew their heads for want of a Generall will mount vpon the tallest coursers they can finde to shew their whole body and draw with more hast to bee nearest to you At least you shal know who be your friends For if the first blow be not giuen vnto that monster by your Royal father and the second and last by your selfe sure sure I knowe not who will beginne much lesse who shall make an end And least any man beleeue that I stand yet wilfully and without iust causes in my old vaine or that I perswade you vpon the reasons of strangers or any moderne writers onelie I end with an instance of your owne a graue prophecie or a sentence if you will giuen in this case almost foure hundred yeares since by a right reuerend godly bishop of yours Robert of Lincolne altogether out of likely-hood to sauor any thing of the hot French or of the interessed Protestant Another man of yours your auncient and learned Mat. Paris citeth it In Henrico iii. An. 1153. out of whose bookes I could bring almost as many arguments to this purpose as there are leaues howsoeuer otherwise a passionate mainteiner of the Apostolike sea That good old Prelate dying in a full age after that he had liued and serued here vnder the tyranny of three or foure Popes Gregory 9. Celestin 4. Innocent 4. hauing held a long discourse with his Priests and Clergie the same night that hee dyed in complaint of the hard and miserable estate of the Church in those times accusing the Popes onely as the totall cause thereof and calling them Heretikes and Antichrists at last did willingly yeeld vp his blessed soule the neerer to happinesse the sharper-sighted and surer in her iudgements with great vehemencie sending foorth this last Oracle from the bottome of his heart The Church shall neuer be deliuered out of this Egiptian bondage vnlesse it be by the mouth of the bloody sword To the sword then Nota. to the sword I durst almost say euen at this instant for at last when Councell and all is done wee shall euer bee put to it Possession is very sweet and that Iudicious man best acquainted with the humour of Popes knew full well that they doe not part so easily from what they haue once catched holde of If all this doe not satisfie the worlde truely then I knowe not what shall though I knowe very well what should howbeit hardlie of more weight then that which is handled through all this Booke Finally to the end none may say that I am more ready to talke then to doe I vow faithfully that if euer this holie purpose goe forward and God let me enioy my selfe I shall be one of the forwardest in my poore condition to shew by my best endeuours in life or death how much I am Your Highnesses Most humble most faithfull and most deuoted seruant Δ To the Romish Catholikes of England MOst deere though but halfe brethren whom yet I wholly loue euen though you were but men a great deale more being Christians most of all being English Christians and subiects to that great Monarch my adoptiue Master who hauing beene so gracious vnto me farre farre beyond my deserts or any hope I might euer haue builded thereon hath bound me for euer to apply vow dedicate all my life studies seruice and best endeuours to him and for him and for his sake to all such as are his In his Maiesties first speech to the Parliament whom euen for that respect only I must needs loue thogh they were but halfe his as long as hee wants the best part of them that is their soules as he himselfe in some place saith of your selues In that resolution for as much as the whole need not the Phisition and that indeed I am no Phisition at all leauing to God and themselues that other part of the good people of this famous kingdom which agreeth in faith and beleefe with vs And choosing you as the fittest obiect for my loue and seruice to work vpon and in you that best part of you your soules yea euen in that leauing that greter businesse of your whole conuersion for spiritual things to the working care of that so worthy Abbot who hath deserued to be a more worthy Archbishop and Prim●te of so flourishing a Church Of an eloquent King of Lōdon Of an acute indeed and much acute Montaign of Bathes and Wels Of that other learned Abbot Of that right diuine Iudicious Leyfield Of substantiall and fruitful Field yea d●ring to leaue you to the liuely remains of a rich English Iewel Of a solid Hooker so skilful that with one only hook he fisheth of both sides with many others both aliue a sleep so easie to be found so hard to be nūbred medling onely in temporalty and such things as are and haue euer beene receiued for constant and common religion
zeale and feruent affection I cease yet neuer ceasing most deuoutly to pray still both for your own good for the kings seruice for the peace of the land generally for the seruice of God that he will giue me grace I may tru●ly say with Paul in your behalfe since the case is not very much vnlike that which he saith of the Iewes Rom. 9. I speake the truth in Christ I lie not my conscience bearing me witnesse in the holy Ghost that I haue great heauinesse and continuall sorrow in my heart for I would my selfe euen be seperate for my brethren the Romish Catholikes to whome pertained the adoption and the glorie and the couenants and the giuing of the law and the seruice of God and the promises of whome are the Fathers and who hauing bequeathed or rather bequited them vnto vs as the Sinagogue had done vnto them both remaine depriued thereof Whereunto I pray God from the bottome of my heart to restore you all againe with vs that so both Iewes and all Christians as naturall brethren after a long discord reconciled together vnder one God and father one Lord and Elder Brother in one Church and Mother may enioy together one eternall glorie in the heauenly Ierusalem which is the mother of vs all Amen The Argument of the whole Treatise consisting of eighteene Sections ECclesiasticall Iurisdiction chiefly and essentially belongs to the Church but to the Pope and other Bishops ministerially onely as the power of seeing to the eye Christ immediatly and by himselfe did giue the keyes or iurisdiction vnto the hierachicall order by the immediate and reall sending forth of all the Apostles and Disciples The definition of the Church by essentiall causes S. Peter is onely the dispenser ministeriall head but Christ the right absolute Lord essential head founder foundation of the Church Wherefore all arguments drawne from the ministeriall to the essential head come short are fallacious * A dicto secūdum quid ad dictum simpliciter as being inferred from that which is said in some respect to that which is affirmed simply In the Church her state must be distinguished from her gouernement the state being monarchicall only to maintaine order and vnitie and to the powerfull execution of the Canons But the gouernment is Aristocraticall for wholesome counsell infalible prouidence and constitution of Canons For the Church is gouerned by Canons not by absolute power The infallible power of decreeing making Canons belongs to the whole Church which is the very pillar ground of truth not solely or onely to Peter And that prooued by the practise of the whole Church This place of the Gospell expounded Simon Behold Sathan hath desired to wi●ow you as wheate but I haue prayed for thee that thy faith faile not c. The frequent holding of Councels is absolutely and simply necessarie to the better and more holy gouerning of the Church and in what cases the Buls and Decretals of Popes doe binde How farre the fulnesse of the Popes power may be extended And in what case he may dispense with the canons of Councels Though the Church haue but one essentiall head neuerthelesse in regard of the exercise and execution of gouernment she is differently ruled by the Pope and by the Ciuill Prince Whereas the Church hath neither territory nor right of the Sword from Christ being onely ordained to a supernaturall and spirituall end shee can determine of the meanes necessarie to saluation onely by perswasion and direction not by constraint or inflicting of temporall punishments The ciuill Prince as being Lord of the Common-wealth and Country is the Protector and Defendor both of the Diuine Naturall and Canonicall law And to those ends may both establish lawes and exercise the sword The Ciuil Prince by the title of Protector of the Church and defendor of the Canons is the lawfull Iudge of all * Appellationes de abusu appeales for abuse as they are termed And from thence haue the liberties of the Gallicane Church had their beginning Confutation of those arguments which due attribute absolute authoritie to Popes In a generall Councel the Pope is held to bee the head so far forth as concernes preaching of the word administration of Sacraments and execution of Canons but not as touching direction and correctiue power ouer the whole Councell This Canon expounded No body must iudge the first See The finall cause of the Church which is euerla●ting life by a good gouernment showes euidently that Peter is by the Church and for the Church as the eye by man and for man What the meaning is that the Church hath also indirect power in temporall things And the answeare to the contrarie arguments A TREATISE OF Ecclesiasticall and Politicke power IT is a common Principle and of an vndoubted faith that God Nature haue still a more chiefe and immediate regard to the whole then to any part neuer so noble thereof And for an example the power of Seing hath therefore bin giuen vnto man that it might bee executed by the eye as mans instrument and minister to that purpose for the eye subsisteth both by man and for man The Schoole of Paris building vpon that most infallible ground conformably to the opinion of all auncient Doctors of the Church hath euer and most constantly taught That Christ in the foundation of his Church hath more chiefly immediatly and essentially giuen the keyes or authoritie to the whole Church then to Peter Or which comes al to one That he hath giuen the keyes to the whole Church ministerially to be vsed by one man Seeing all Ecclesiasticall power belongs properly essentially and first to the Church but to the Pope and other Bishops instrumentally and ministerially and onely so far forth as concernes the exercising as the power of seeing to the eye Let no body therefor glorie in men for all things are yours that is to say of the church Whether it be Paul or Apolos or Cephas or the world or life or death whether things present or to come for all things are the Churches and the Church Christs and Christs Gods 1. Cor. 3. c. For surely when it pleased our Sauiour Mat. 16.19 to promise by words of future the keyes to Saint Peter in the name of the whole Church after this maner I will giue thee the keyes of the kingdome of heauen c. He did afterwards actually giue and deliuer them to the whole hierarchical order together First by a generall commission Mat. 18.17 where he doth establish the Church sufficient in it self a chief Gouernesse Tell it vnto the Church Secondly by a reall sending forth Luc. 10.1 The Lord appointed other seauenty also and sent them two and two before him into euerie citie place whither he himselfe shold come Iohn 17.18 Likewise when a little before or immediatly after the celebration of the Lords supper he prayeth to his father for his Church in these