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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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we_o do_v also_o hold_v that_o when_o he_o come_v to_o age_n it_o will_v be_v his_o duty_n as_o serious_o and_o devout_o to_o make_v this_o covenant_n with_o god_n understand_o himself_n and_o to_o dedicate_v himself_o to_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n as_o those_o must_v do_v that_o never_o be_v baptise_a in_o infancy_n and_o we_o promise_v to_o endeavour_v faithful_o as_o we_o have_v opportunity_n to_o instruct_v and_o persuade_v he_o so_o to_o do_v hope_v that_o this_o his_o early_a baptismal_a dedication_n and_o obligation_n to_o god_n will_v rather_o much_o prepare_v he_o for_o it_o than_o hinder_v it_o §_o 31._o i_o think_v these_o profession_n shall_v put_v off_o the_o chief_a matter_n of_o offence_n and_o exception_n against_o each_o other_o as_o to_o the_o ill_a consequent_n of_o our_o opinion_n and_o if_o sober_a good_a man_n will_v by_o such_o a_o mutual_a approach_n be_v the_o more_o dispose_v to_o live_v together_o in_o love_n and_o holy_a peace_n how_o 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swell_v into_o self-conceit_n and_o trouble_v the_o church_n with_o a_o mistake_n wrangle_a hurtful_a sort_n of_o zeal_n §_o 33._o and_o as_o i_o must_v needs_o believe_v as_o ill_o of_o some_o sort_n of_o zeal_n as_o st._n james_n have_v speak_v of_o it_o jam._n 3._o and_o experience_n have_v too_o long_o tell_v the_o world_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o take_v it_o for_o true_o amiable_a in_o man_n that_o they_o have_v a_o love_n and_o zeal_n for_o truth_n in_o general_n and_o a_o hatred_n to_o that_o which_o they_o think_v to_o be_v against_o it_o and_o that_o their_o bitterness_n against_o the_o truth_n and_o i_o be_v upon_o a_o supposition_n that_o both_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n and_o god_n for_o this_o bear_v they_o witness_v that_o they_o have_v a_o zeal_n of_o god_n though_o it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o knowledge_n and_o if_o they_o know_v truth_n indeed_o they_o will_v be_v zealous_a for_o it_o §_o 34._o i_o conclude_v with_o this_o notice_n to_o the_o contrary_n mind_v that_o 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though_o rebaptise_v and_o reordain_v be_v just_o both_o condemn_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o pronounce_v alike_o ridiculous_a by_o gregory_n mag._n lib._n 2._o ep._n indict_v 11._o c._n 46._o and_o many_o other_o yet_o be_v man_n rebaptise_v but_o for_o certainty_n to_o themselves_o or_o to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o quiet_v their_o conscience_n and_o on_o such_o term_n as_o in_o my_o christian_a directory_n i_o have_v show_v that_o a_o seem_a reordination_n may_v in_o some_o case_n be_v tolerate_v and_o will_v not_o wrong_v infant_n nor_o make_v it_o a_o occasion_n of_o division_n or_o alienation_n i_o know_v not_o by_o any_o scripture_n or_o reason_n that_o such_o rebaptise_v be_v so_o heinous_a a_o sin_n as_o shall_v warrant_v we_o to_o contemn_v our_o brethren_n no_o though_o it_o be_v as_o faulty_a as_o the_o oft_o commemorative_n baptise_v use_v by_o the_o abassine_n chap._n iii_o a_o general_n view_v of_o mr._n danvers_n book_n §_o 1._o mr._n danvers_n book_n be_v 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deliver_v down_o the_o form_n and_o word_n of_o baptism_n to_o we_o §_o 18._o afterwards_o pag._n 230._o ed._n 2._o mr._n danvers_n come_v to_o austin_n again_o and_o say_v that_o vincentius_n victor_n do_v oppose_v austin_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant-baptism_n cite_v august_n li._n 3._o c._n 14._o de_fw-la anima_fw-la answ_n not_o a_o word_n of_o truth_n no_o such_o matter_n in_o that_o chapter_n or_o the_o whole_a book_n §_o 19_o next_o he_o say_v cresconius_n do_v also_o oppose_v austin_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant_n baptism_n and_o do_v maintain_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a baptism_n but_o that_o which_o administer_v after_o faith_n answ_n utter_o false_a still_o there_o be_v no_o such_o controversy_n between_o they_o no_o wonder_n if_o he_o have_v miscit_v sentence_n that_o will_v thus_o go_v to_o falsify_v whole_a book_n as_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o they_o never_o meddle_v with_o augustine_n have_v write_v against_o petilian_n their_o best_a speaker_n have_v of_o a_o lawyer_n be_v make_v a_o bishop_n cresconius_n a_o donatist_n grammarian_n interpose_v for_o petilian_n and_o persuade_v austin_n to_o gentle_a thought_n of_o they_o but_o speak_v not_o a_o word_n against_o infant-baptism_n §_o 20._o nay_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 31._o austin_n tell_v we_o that_o they_o hold_v it_o as_o well_o as_o the_o catholic_n say_v he_o circumcisionem_fw-la certe_fw-la praeputii_fw-la in_o figura_fw-la futuri_fw-la baptismi_fw-la christi_fw-la ab_fw-la antiquis_fw-la observatum_fw-la esse_fw-la negare_fw-la ut_fw-la arbitror_fw-la non_fw-la audetis_fw-la that_o be_v i_o suppose_v you_o dare_v not_o deny_v that_o circumcision_n be_v observe_v by_o the_o ancient_n in_o figure_n of_o the_o christian_a baptism_n it_o be_v a_o grant_v thing_n §_o 21._o and_o it_o be_v cresconius_n word_n to_o austin_n una_fw-la religio_fw-la eadem_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la nihil_fw-la in_o christiana_n observatione_fw-la diversum_fw-la &_o adhuc_fw-la adversus_fw-la inuicem_fw-la 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