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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A46798	A letter concerning the Council of Trent	Jenks, Sylvester, 1656?-1714.; N. N.	1686 (1686)	Wing J630C; ESTC R217051	46,244	121

forbid the debating of this matter 2. After experience of the contentions about Residence they could not but foresee that this dispute so much connected with the other might occasion greater disorders of which they would have been guilty had they given leave therefore they * ibid. would not consent by any means 3. The Divines Prelates freely took leave though it was not given them never spoke more boldly than they did upon this subject If you will not believe me believe your friend Soave Read what follows believe your own eyes Michael Orencuspe a Divine of the Bishop of Pampelona argued * p. 558. that howsoever it be true and certain that Bishops are superior jure Pontificio yet the Lutherans are not in this regard to be condemn'd for Hereticks because that cannot be an Article of Faith which is grounded only upon the Law of man * ibid. John Fonseca a Divine of the Archbishop of Granata follow'd saying it neither was nor could be forbidden to speak of it For the Article being propos'd to be discuss'd whether it be heretical or no it is necessary to understand whether it be against Faith against which it cannot be if it do not repugn to the Law of God He said that if the Pope be instituted by Christ because he hath said to Peter Feed my Lambs Bishops are likewise instituted by him because he hath said alike to all the Apostles as my Father hath sent me so I send you And if the Pope be Successor of S. Peter the Bishops are Successors of the Apostles which he prov'd by many Authorities out of the Fathers He added that to be confirm'd or created by the Pope did not conclude that they were not instituted by Christ or had not authority from him For the Pope himself is created by the Cardinals and yet hath his authority from Christ So the Bishops receive the Diocess from the Pope authority from Christ Their Superiority over Priests he prov'd to be jure divino by authority of many Fathers who say that Bishops succeed the Apostles Priests the seventy two Disciples Antony Grossetus insisted upon the same point * p. 559. He said it was necessary to declare that Bishops have not commission for their Office from men for so they would be Hirelings to whom the Lambs do not belong because the man who had committed the care unto them being satisfied they had no more to think on .... In the end he excused himself that he had spoken without premeditation ... not remembring that that point was forbidden to be spoke of Here it is that Soave would make us believe that Grossetus fear'd some bad encounter but I am sure if any bad encounter had ever hapned to him upon this account Soave would have taken care to let us know it Have but a little patience to observe how freely boldly the Bishops deliver'd their opinions in the following Congregations and then Pl give you leave to tell me if you can what bad encounter they fear'd The Archbishop of Granata said * p. 565. They must needs declare both these two points that is that Bishops are instituted jure divino and are jure divino superior to Priests And he confirm'd his opinion at large with many reasons arguments authorities ... He cited Pope Eleutherius who in an epistle to the Bishops of France wrote that Christ had committed the Church Universal to them He added that Ambrose upon the Epistle to the Corinthians saith that the Bishop holdeth the place of Christ is Vicar of the Lord ... that there are extant Epistles of Cyprian to Fabianus Cornelius Lucius and Stephanus Popes where he giveth them the title of Brothers and of Austin written in his own name of the Bishops of Africa in which the Popes Innocentius and Bonifacius are likewise call'd Brothers which is most plain not only in the Epistles of those two Saints but of many others the Pope is call'd Colleague ... that it is against the nature of a Colledge to consist of persons of divers kinds ... In this Colledg of Bishops the Pope is Head but for edification only ... that S. Gregory saith in his epistle to Johannes Syracusanus that when a Bishop is in a fault he is subject to the Apostolick See but otherwise all are equal by reason of humility which Christian Humility is never separated from the Truth He inveigh'd against those Theologues who said that S. Peter had ordain'd the other Apostles Bishops ... * p. 566. He jested at those Divines who had said that all the Apostles were instituted by Christ and made equal in authority but that it was personal in them ought not to pass to their Successors except that of S. Peter asking them as if they had been present with what ground authority or reason they were induced to make such a bold affirmation invented within these fifty years only expressly contrary to the Scripture in which Christ said to all the Apostles I will be with you untill the end of the world which words because they cannot be expounded of their particular persons only must be necessarily understood of the succession of all * p. 567. The Archbishop of Braga prov'd at large the Institution of Bishops de jure divino He said that the Pope cannot take from Bishops the Authority given them in their consecration which doth contain in it the power not only of Order but of Jurisdiction ... that to Titular Bishops a City is allotted which would not be necessary if the Episcopal Order could subsist without Jurisdiction He was follow'd by the Bishops of Segovia of Segna others who spoke as boldy as himself not fearing any bad encounter and Soave says * p. 569. almost the half were of that opinion Afterwards * p. 577. to quench the boyling heat of the controversy about the Institution of Bishops that it might not increase by means of so many who were prepar'd to contradict Laynez they would not hold any Congregation for many days And yet they were so far from fearing any bad encounter that almost every day * p 578. three or four of them joyn'd together went to some of the Legates to renew the instance And one day the Bishop of Guadice with four others told them among other things that * ibid. as a Prince dos institute in a City a Judge of the first instante a Judge of Appeal who though he be superior yet cannot take authority from the other nor usurp the causes belonging to him so Christ in the Church hath instituted all Bishops the Pope superior in whom the Supreme Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction was yet so that others had theirs depending on Christ alone After all this the Bishop of Segovia when the Prelates met again in Congregation argued * p. 582. that it was decided in the Congregations under Julius III. that Bishops are instituted

of coming departing that the residue appertain'd to the manner of their Negotiation which might more easily be concluded by the presence of the Divines that it was too much obstinacy to yield in nothing to desire to give laws to the whole Church After all this * p. 352. the Protestants receiv'd the Safe-conduct but with protestation that they did it only to send it to their Princes Would not any body think these men were very hard to please XII When some of the Protestants came to Trent they were denied audience liberty of disputing A. Neither the one nor the other was denied them T is true they were not heard but whose fault was that It was because the victorious Army of the Protestants made the Bishops run away from Trent before the preliminaries of the Treaty could be well agreed upon They came about the middle of March departed in the beginning of April Have but a little patience to hear Soave tell the story and you will presently see that this objection is a meer calumny * ibid. The Electors of Mentz and Collen departed the eleventh of March .... four Divines of Wittenberg and two of Argentina came to Trent afterwards desired to begin the Conference The Legat answer'd that the nineteenth of March being a day appointed for the Session they would then consider about a form how to treat Was this denying audience Afterwards a resolution was taken to prolong the Session till the first of May. This was some Delay indeed little enough to deliberate upon the preliminaries of so unusual a Treaty but however it was no Denial Mean time * p. 352. the Protestants often desir'd the Action should begin it seems they were in great hast but difficulty was still rais'd sometimes about the manner of treating sometimes about the matter with which to begin ... * p. 353. the Adherents of Cesar Spaniards others mov'd by the Emperour's Ambassadors desired to proceed but the Papalins he has always a fling at the Court suspecting that the end of the Imperialists was to come to the Reformation of the Court of Rome embrac'd all occasions of delay The Legate says he was thought to feign himself sick but Soave I presume did not think so himself because he tells us in the very next page that he died soon after at Verona which was no good proof of his dissimulation But let us go on with his story * ibid. The first of April the Elector of Saxony besieg'd Ausburg which did render it self the third day the sixth news came thereof to Trent that all Tirol did arm meant to go to Inspruc ... Therefore many of the Italian Bishops embark'd went down the river Adice to go to Verona and the Protestants determin'd to depart See here the true cause of their departure and tell me no more of their being either denied audience or liberty of disputing XIII The place was not secure A. Very true it was far from being secure for the Catholicks The Protestant Army forced them to suspend the Council April 28. Neither was it any wonder that they were so much afraid of their victorious arms Soave says * p 355. The Emperour was forced to fly by night with all his Court from Inspruc to wander in the mountains of Trent and that a few hours after Maurice arrived there the same night made himself Lord of the Emperour's baggage Consider here on the one side how littie reason the Protestants have to complain of the choice of this place 1. it was nigher the Protestants of Germany than the Catholicks of Spain France 2. the Pope's forces had no access thither 't was in the Emperour's power 3. the appearance only of the Protestant Army was enough to fright away the Council On the other side you see how justly the Pope refus'd to call a Council in any City of Germany for fear of the Protestant arms As for the Canon Ut illic lites terminentur ubi exortae sunt 't is understood of those causes where some fact is to be prov'd by witnesses that live upon the place XIV The Council was not free It was call'd by the Pope And nothing could be determin'd till the Pope sent his instructions from Rome A. If any man have a right to convocate the supreme Ecclesiastical Assembly 't is certainly He who has from God the supreme Ecclesiastical power upon earth and this right of calling it appertains as manifestly to the Pope as the convocation of a Provincial Council belongs to the Metropolitan Moreover Soave says the Princes in the Diet of Noremberg desired * p. 31. that by the Pope with consent of the Emperour a free Council should be intimated as soon as was possible he says the Emperour sent Letters to the Diet of Spira that * p. 34. he was resolved to pass into Italy and to Rome to treat with the Pope for the calling of a Council and afterwards under Pius IV. he says * p. 304. all Princes had agreed in demanding it As to the Second part of your objection 'T is certain that if it had stood with the Pope's conveniency He ought to have been present In his absence 't was necessary for the Legates representing his person to receive frequent directions from him that they might the better supply the want of his presence If for this reason it was lawfull to give them instructions before the Council began why not afterwards as long as the Council was fitting In fine whatsoever advice came from Rome Nothing in matter of Doctrine was determin'd which any considerable part resisted Soave himself confesses * 538. that it was a general Maxim in this Council that to establish a Decree of Reformation a major part of voices was sufficient but that a Decree of Faith could not be made if a considerable part did contradict XV. Many of the Bishops were Pensioners to the Pope A. Soave acknowledges that several * p. 116. of the Bishops moved by poverty made grievous complaints threatned that they would depart If therefore the Pope maintain'd some of them it was a great charity done by him a good example to Princes a thing which formerly used to be done by the Emperours 2. Secular Princes had more money than the Pope and if it had been the policy of his Holiness they might easily have countermin'd it 3. All the Popes in their Bulls of Convocation desired exhorted all Secular Princes to send as many of their Bishops as possibly they could 4. His Pensioners were not necessary for him at least in the Protestant Controversies therefore this is no excuse for the Reformation XVI In some Sessions under Paul and Julius there were scarce any befides Italians A. 1. The Council being drawn out from 1545. till 1563. actually sitting for about four years it cannot be rationally expected that any great frequency