Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	bishop_n	canon_n	council_n	2,327	5	7.3000	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A25216	A reply to the Reverend Dean of St. Pauls's reflections on the Rector of Sutton, &c. wherein the principles and practices of the non-conformists are not only vindicated by Scripture, but by Dr. Stillingsfleet's Rational account, as well as his Irenicum : as also by the writings of the Lord Faulkland, Mr. Hales, Mr. Chillingworth, &c. / by the same hand ; to which is added, St. Paul's work promoted, or, Proper materials drawn from The true and only way of concord, and, Pleas for peace and other late writings of Mr. Richard Baxter ...	Alsop, Vincent, 1629 or 30-1703.; Barret, John, 1631-1713.	1681 (1681)	Wing A2919; ESTC R6809	123,967	128

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though_o magistrate_n may_v regulate_v we_o in_o the_o circumstance_n of_o those_o duty_n which_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o gospel_n do_v command_v yet_o if_o on_o such_o pretence_n they_o violate_v or_o contradict_v either_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o the_o gospel_n and_o dedstroy_v the_o duty_n itself_o or_o its_o end_n whether_o we_o be_v bind_v in_o such_o case_n to_o obey_v they_o or_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o that_o we_o patient_o suffer_v first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 104._o q._n 6._o whether_o the_o king_n of_o israel_n have_v power_n to_o forbid_v the_o priest_n exercise_v their_o office_n according_a to_o god_n law_n or_o whether_o they_o can_v change_v or_o abrogate_v their_o office_n ibid._n p._n 20._o of_o solomon_n put_v out_o abiathar_n see_v p._n 21._o whether_o may_v they_o then_o have_v put_v out_o a_o lawful_a priest_n that_o have_v not_o forfeit_v his_o life_n or_o office_n or_o may_v they_o have_v put_v any_o one_o in_o his_o place_n that_o have_v not_o right_o from_o god_n or_o that_o be_v unqualify_v or_o may_v they_o have_v forbid_v the_o priest_n the_o work_v appoint_v they_o by_o god_n ibid._n p._n 22._o q._n 7._o whether_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n empower_v to_o ordain_v other_o to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v power_n from_o christ_n to_o hinder_v the_o ordination_n of_o such_o as_o christ_n law_n admit_v into_o the_o ministry_n ibid._n p._n 25._o q._n 8._o whether_o the_o magistrate_n beside_o the_o power_n of_o the_o temple_n and_o tithe_n and_o public_a maintenance_n and_o liberty_n also_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n or_o degradation_n that_o no_o man_n may_v be_v a_o true_a minister_n without_o or_o contrary_a to_o his_o consent_n sacrileg_n desert_n p._n 11._o whether_o be_v not_o many_o of_o the_o nonconformist's_a true_a pastor_n of_o their_o several_a flock_n before_o they_o be_v silence_v and_o cast_v out_o ibid._n and_o whether_o do_v the_o eject_v they_o from_o the_o temple_n 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under_o he_o if_o these_o four_o party_n be_v for_o four_o minister_n or_o for_o three_o or_o two_o several_a man_n and_o can_v agree_v in_o one_o whether_o the_o culpable_a dissenter_n will_v not_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o schism_n ibid._n p._n 50._o q._n 10._o whether_o the_o church_n and_o council_n be_v in_o the_o right_n or_o no_o which_o for_o 700_o yea_o 1000_o year_n hold_v that_o the_o call_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v null_a that_o have_v not_o the_o clergy_n election_n and_o the_o people_n election_n or_o consent_n and_o if_o usurper_n shall_v thrust_v out_o the_o bishop_n and_o conformist_n and_o make_v themselves_o our_o pastor_n against_o our_o will_n what_o will_v the_o bishop_n think_v of_o such_o will_v they_o hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o separate_v from_o such_o agree_v with_o they_o in_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm._n p._n 27._o q._n 11._o if_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n or_o prince_n put_v in_o place_n of_o pastor_n person_n of_o untried_a and_o suspect_a part_n of_o fidelity_n whether_o will_v his_o imposition_n make_v such_o the_o true_a pastor_n of_o that_o church_n before_o and_o without_o the_o people_n consent_n fi●st_v plea_n for_o p._n p._n 55._o if_o so_o then_o whether_o may_v not_o one_o roman_a emperor_n have_v undo_v all_o the_o church_n and_o soul_n in_o the_o empire_n in_o a_o great_a degree_n by_o impose_v on_o they_o insufficient_a heretical_a or_o malignant_a pastor_n ibid._n p._n 56._o if_o people_n be_v as_o much_o under_o prince_n for_o choose_v guide_n for_o their_o soul_n as_o a_o daughter_n in_o her_o father_n house_n be_v under_o her_o father_n for_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o husband_n which_o yet_o we_o have_v not_o see_v prove_v yet_o as_o he_o can_v be_v no_o husband_n to_o she_o without_o her_o consent_n though_o she_o culpable_o deny_v consent_n query_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o so_o here_o that_o they_o can_v be_v no_o pastor_n to_o people_n till_o they_o consent_n way_n of_o concord_n p._n 209._o §_o 18._o but_o whether_o have_v god_n authorize_v the_o magistrate_n to_o choose_v what_o person_n every_o man_n in_o his_o dominion_n shall_v entrust_v his_o soul_n to_o as_o the_o pastor_n who_o conduct_n he_o be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o obey_v ans._n to_o dr._n still_o serm_n p._n 14._o whether_o shall_v the_o people_n have_v any_o judgement_n of_o discern_v or_o not_o if_o yea_o must_v not_o the_o bound_n of_o it_o be_v show_v without_o deny_v the_o thing_n as_o if_o that_o will_v bring_v in_o all_o confusion_n if_o usurper_n claim_v the_o crown_n must_v not_o subject_n judge_v which_o be_v the_o true_a king_n and_o defend_v his_o right_n will_v any_o say_v if_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n they_o may_v set_v up_o usurper_n and_o put_v down_o the_o king_n when_o they_o be_v but_o discerner_n of_o that_o which_o be_v before_o their_o duty_n and_o have_v no_o right_a to_o err_v or_o alter_v the_o law_n and_o right_n can_v any_o dreadful_a consequence_n be_v prove_v to_o follow_v on_o it_o or_o if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o must_v they_o not_o be_v rule_v as_o brute_n and_o so_o must_v not_o ●udg_v so_o much_o as_o who_o they_o be_v to_o obey_v be_v there_o any_o christian_n that_o dare_v say_v that_o bishop_n or_o prince_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n to_o be_v obey_v lest_o the_o people_n be_v make_v judge_n first_o plea_n for_o p._n p._n 70_o 71._o q._n 12._o whether_o the_o ministerial_a office_n be_v take_v up_o upon_o trial_n or_o for_o a_o time_n or_o during_o life_n with_o a_o capacity_n to_o perform_v the_o work_n if_o the_o latter_a be_v grant_v then_o whether_o it_o be_v any_o less_o than_o 1._o horrid_a sacrilege_n 2._o perfidious_n covenant-breaking_a 3._o disobedience_n to_o god_n 4._o cruelty_n to_o soul_n 5._o and_o unthankfulness_n for_o great_a mercy_n if_o any_o of_o we_o shall_v desert_v our_o undertake_a office_n yea_o though_o a_o silence_v diocesan_n shall_v forbid_v we_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o unjust_o sacrilege_n desert_n p._n 25_o 30._o q._n 13._o if_o ruler_n may_v silence_v the_o faithful_a minister_n of_o christ_n who_o know_v where_o to_o bound_v his_o obedience_n to_o such_o silencer_n if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o faithful_a minister_n must_v cease_v preach_v when_o so_o forbid_v why_o not_o 3000_o why_o not_o 4000_o if_o half_o a_o kingdom_n can_v you_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o other_o half_a that_o they_o must_v not_o do_v so_o too_o and_o so_o all_o christian_a kingdom_n conform_v to_o muscovy_n when_o the_o prince_n command_v it_o and_o if_o a_o 1000_o or_o 2000_o or_o 3000_o parish_n must_v choose_v the_o apparent_a hazard_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o refuse_v such_o help_n as_o experience_n certify_v we_o they_o great_o need_v in_o obedience_n to_o man_n why_o must_v not_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o parish_n do_v so_o