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A30189 An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball. Ball, John, 1585-1640.; Ashe, Simeon, d. 1662. 1642 (1642) Wing B558; ESTC R3127 281,779 264

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of_o separation_n by_o complain_v of_o the_o abuse_n in_o our_o church_n p._n 20_o 21._o from_o whence_o the_o outward_a call_n of_o a_o minister_n be_v derive_v p._n 24_o 25._o herein_o a_o distinction_n be_v considerable_a betwixt_o a_o error_n in_o admission_n into_o a_o office_n and_o a_o flat_a nullity_n of_o the_o office_n itself_o p._n 29._o who_o be_v not_o and_o who_o be_v antichristian_a teacher_n p._n 41._o the_o true_a nature_n of_o worship_n and_o what_o it_o be_v to_o worship_n god_n in_o a_o right_a manner_n p._n 43._o of_o a_o idol_n church_n and_o ministry_n p._n 45._o place_n of_o public_a worship_n allow_v and_o prohibit_v unto_o isr●ell●_n p._n 59_o of_o worship_v god_n in_o a_o true_a church_n p._n 61._o our_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v repute_v spiritual_a babylon_n p._n 69._o concern_v church_n true_a and_o false_a p._n 71_o corrupt_a mixture_n in_o true_a church_n p._n 81._o the_o nature_n of_o superstition_n p._n 89._o of_o ordination_n receive_v from_o bishop_n p._n 93._o concern_v presence_n at_o god_n true_a worship_n where_o something_o be_v faulty_a in_o the_o minister_n call_v and_o the_o ●ann●r_n of_o administration_n p._n 105._o some_o thing_n may_v stain_v which_o yet_o overthrow_v not_o the_o ministry_n p._n 119._o from_o whence_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n derive_v their_o office_n p._n 126._o the_o minister_n ignorance_n and_o scandalous_a life_n do_v not_o nullify_v his_o ministry_n p._n 128._o some_o touch_n give_v of_o master_n cannes_n gross_a abuse_n of_o philosophical_a canon_n and_o of_o some_o author_n by_o he_o cite_v p._n 132_o 133_o 134_o etc._n etc._n when_o minister_n may_v be_v say_v to_o run_v though_o not_o send_v p._n 139._o foreign_a reform_a church_n acknowledge_v we_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n p._n 141._o the_o minister_n call_v be_v not_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o title_n of_o parson_n vicar_n etc._n etc._n p._n 143._o in_o the_o second_o part._n the_o lawfulness_n of_o set_a form_n of_o prayer_n p._n 3._o nonconformist_n never_o utter_o condemn_v any_o use_n of_o our_o common_a prayer_n book_n p._n 7_o &_o 15_o 16._o nor_o allow_v separation_n because_o of_o some_o abuse_n p._n 20_o 22._o the_o discuss_n and_o discover_v of_o that_o argument_n use_v against_o the_o common_a prayer_n book_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o mass_n book_n 9_o 10_o 11_o 12._o the_o press_v of_o subscription_n in_o the_o ten_o year_n of_o queen_n elizabeth_n cause_v separation_n and_o other_o trouble_n in_o our_o church_n p._n 13._o the_o antiquity_n of_o set_a liturgy_n p._n 17._o concern_v idol_n and_o separation_n from_o they_o p._n 23_o 24_o 25._o of_o discipline_n how_o far_o necessary_a in_o a_o church_n and_o how_o want_v among_o we_o p._n 33_o 35_o 37._o etc._n etc._n concern_v the_o matter_n and_o manner_n of_o gather_v church_n 50_o unto_o 64_o etc._n etc._n the_o office_n of_o lecturer_n justify_v p._n 84._o finis_fw-la errata_fw-la in_o part_n 1_o page_z 2_o line_n 1_o put_v out_o shall_v p._n 7_o marg._n l._n last_o add_v lib._n 1._o p._n 8._o mark_fw-mi at_o end_n ad●e_n et_fw-fr repl._n 1._o p._n 33._o p._n 9_o mark_fw-mi add_v hoc_fw-la autem_fw-la p._n 11._o mark_fw-mi add_v jer._n 23.11.34_o esa_n 28.7.9_o jer._n 23.16.17_o p._n 44._o l._n 4._o add_v in_o p._n 54._o l._n 14._o add_v the_o most_o of_o p._n 53_o l._n 11._o for_o neither_o read_v either_o p._n 57_o l._n 12._o for_o rome_n r._n say_v l._n 17._o our_o ministry_n be_v insert_v true_a though_o p._n 62._o l._n 25._o put_v out_o not_o p._n 64._o l._n 7._o add_v sani_fw-la p._n 80._o l._n 32._o add_v in_o mark_fw-mi 3._o p._n 90._o l._n 12._o read_v shaft_n p._n 100_o l._n last_o for_o answer_v r._n censure_v p._n 105._o l._n 4._o unto_o general_n add_v rule_n p._n 108._o l._n 1._o for_o it_o be_v r._n be_v it_o p._n 139._o l._n 37._o put_v out_o nor_o p._n 140._o l._n 30._o add_v it_o in_o part_v 2._o p._n 7._o l._n 18._o put_v out_o have_v p._n 11._o l._n 34._o for_o make_v r._n make_v p._n 13._o l._n 24._o for_o former_a matter_n r._n form_n or_o matter_n p._n 16._o l._n 4._o add_v into_o p._n 26._o l._n 31._o for_o when_o r._n then_o p._n 38._o l._n 7._o for_o constitution_n r._n institution_n p._n 50._o l._n 25._o for_o dare_v r._n do_v p._n 52._o l._n 6._o for_o promise_a r._n purchase_v p._n 55._o l._n 6._o for_o more_o r._n most_o p._n 72._o l._n 23._o for_o more_o r._n be_v p._n 73._o l._n 11._o for_o dissever_a r_o discover_v p._n 74_o last_o line_n r._n anabaptistae_n p_o 84_o l_o 12_o add_v in_o