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A01011 The totall summe. Or No danger of damnation vnto Roman Catholiques for any errour in faith nor any hope of saluation for any sectary vvhatsoeuer that doth knovvingly oppose the doctrine of the Roman Church. This is proued by the confessions, and sayings of M. William Chillingvvorth his booke. Floyd, John, 1572-1649. 1639 (1639) STC 11117; ESTC S118026 62,206 105

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that some Protestants leauing the Roman Church haue fallen away by degrees euen from the Fundamentals of Christianity You answer p. 168. lin 9. What if some forsaking the Church of Rome haue forsaken fundamental truths Was this because they forsooke the Church of Rome No sure this is non causa pro causa For else all that haue forsaken that Church should haue done so which we say they haue not but because they went too farre from her The golden meane the narrow way is hard to be found hard to be kept hard but not impossible hard but yet you must not please your selues out of it though you erre on the right hand though you offend on the milder part for this is the only way that leades to life and few there be that find it It is true if we said there were no danger in being of the Roman Church and there were danger in leauing it it were MADNESSE to persuade any man to leaue it Thus you Before I come to the principall intent let me note and put you in mind of two thinges First that here as euery where also commonly you argue fondly that the cause why some forsaking the Roman Church forsook also the fundamentals of Christianity was not their forsaking the Roman Church For els say you all that haue forsaken her should haue done so An argument fond and full of ignorance Otherwise we might say that Couetousnesse was not the cause that Iudas betrayed his Maister for else all couetous seruants should betray their maisters which we know is not so we may say that zeale of Puritanisme was not the cause that Enoch ap euan murthered his Brother and Mother because many zealous Puritans do not murther their Brothers and mothers that oppose them These instances and a thousand more which might be brought lay open your ignorance that you do not distinguish betwixt naturall necessary causes whose force cannot be resisted and morall causes which freely incline the will leauing it liberty to resist which is the reason they are effectuall in some and not in others 7. Secondly I note that you also heere keepe your wont of contradicting your selfe What you heere say that the narrow and onely way to life and saluation is hard to be found hard to be kept without erring on the right hand or on the left how doth it agree with or how doth it not directly destroy what you teach pag. 221. lin 20. about your Protestant safeway· This is a way so plaine that fooles except they will cannot erre from it because in this way not being free from errour but indeauouring to be free is the onely condition of Saluation How is not being free from errour but endeauouring to be free in your way the onely condition of Saluation if keeping the golden meane and the narrow way without erring eyther on the right hand or left be in your doctrine the sole meanes of Saluation How is the way so plaine that euen fooles vnlesse they will cannot erre from it if it be hard to be kept without erring on the right hand or left And pag. 290. n. 87. whereas the Maintayner sayth that Protestants should not haue left the Roman Church for errours vn-fundamētall seing they were not sure by their departure to auoyd this kind of mischiefe yea they were sure they could not auoyd it you say Protestants are so farre from acknowledging that they haue no hope to auoyd this mischiefe of errours vn-fundamentall that they proclayme to all the world that it is most prone and easy to do so to all those that feare God and loue truth and hardly possibly for them to do otherwise without supine negligence and extreme impiety How do these sayings hange together The golden meane of sauing truth the only way to life is hard difficile and only not impossible to be kept without erring from it eyther on the left hand Fundamentally or one the right vn-fundamentally The way of sauing truth is most prone and easy to be kept without erring so much as vn-fundamentally yea it is hardly possible to erre from it on eyther side without supine negligence and extreme impiety 8. But now to the Principall intent by this your confession it is euident that it is madnes for any man to to leaue the Roman Church and that your writing to perswade them to leaue it was a fit of distemper in your brayne For you confesse that if you sayd there were no danger in being of the Roman Church and there were danger in leauing it is were madnesse to persuade any man to leaue it Now I assume But you say both that there is no danger in the Roman Church and that there is extreme danger in leauing it That you say the first I proue because you say that he who belieues all Fundamentall truth cannot be damned for any errour in fayth And pag. 376. n. 57. he that belieues all necessary truth if his life be answerable to his fayth how is it possible he should fayle of Saluaton But you affirme that the Roman Church retaynes all fundamentall and necessary truth in that you onely charge her of going from the Golden meane of exact truth on the right hand on the surer part Wherfore in the Roman Church men may safely expect Saluation there is no danger yea there is no possibility of damnation for errours in faith with in her Communiō That you say the second that there is extreme dāger in leauing the Roman Church I shew euē by this testimony For you say the Roman Church erreth on the right hand on the milder part so that they who leaue her must of necessity depart so farre from her on the left hand that is into the direfull gulfe of fundamentall errours except they keepe themselues in the golden meane in the narrow way But the golden meane the narrow way is as you professe hard to be found hard and onely not impossible to be kept Ergo in leauing the Roman Church there is danger and exceeding great danger which can hardly be auoyded of falling into errours fundamentall remedilessely and fatally damnable These being your Cōfessions and otherwise of themselues manifest truths you must acknowledge it is euen madnesse and fury for any man to forsake the Roman Church and that your writing to diuert men from her Communion was a fit of phrensy That Protestants can neuer be sure that they belieue all fundamentall and necessary Truth §. 3. 9. IT being indispensably necessary vnto Saluation to know distinctly and in particular all Fundamental essentiall truthes how can Christian soules that be pious carefull of their eternity fearfull to fall into damnation euerlasting rest quiet or calme in conscience till they know an exact Catalogue of these Fundamentals that so they may be sure they know and belieue them distinctly and in particular Now Protestants neither do nor can agree vpon an exact Catalogue of their Fundamētals nor wil tel their followers distinctly
thou thy selfe be in errour and draw an infinite number of Souls after thee into errour to be damned eternally with thee 16. You say that your Saluation doth not depend on ours that you might be saued though we were Turkes and Pagans this I well belieue But now that the Roman Church is not Turcisme nor Iudaisme but a Kingdome of Christ diffused ouer the earth the onely Christian Catholique Religion in the world which is come from our Sauiour by conspicuous linage and line of succession by the Apostles what Christian will not tremble to be in a state wherein he must expect Saluation from Christ by damning that Religion which is so notoriously descended from him 17. The innated instinct of Godlinesse the sparkes of Piety which nature hath hidden within the bowels of euery reasonable soule moue men to acknowledge and reuerence that Religion as being of God which they see marked and adorned with diuine and supernaturall workes aboue the course and forces of nature Which Maiesty of miracles shining so gloriously in the Roman Church can any man that is Religious fearfull of God iudge the same damnable and venture his soule on the damnation thereof Wherefore not Loue not Charity not Goodwill to the Roman Catholiques is that which moueth Protestants to pronunce her Religion safe and free from damnable errour but the horrour of damning togeather with vs innumerable millions of holy and heauenly men of former Christian worlds 18. Finally Protestants vnder pretence of fauouring and comforting vs seeke their owne comfort solace that they may find some shelter of hope of saluation vnder the wings of the Roman Religion who in their opposition against her find none or only poore meagre and miserable hopes For laying for ground this truth that our Religion is safe then assuming this falshood that theirs is the same with ours for substance and in all necessary points they cheere vp many drooping hearts that can feele no comfort in hoping to be saued by damning the Roman Church so that care of their owne Sparta desire to stay the wiser sort of their followers in their course of Diuision from the Roman Church this I say is one of the reasons which maketh Ministers to preach the certainty of Saluation in our Church and to maske themselues with a vizard of Charity and Friendship towards vs. That Protestant Religion is not safe euen in your iudgment §. 6. 19. YOu say in your Preface n. 39. that you haue not vndertaken the peculiar defence of the doctrine of the Church of England nor of any other particular Protestant Church but the common cause of all Protestants to maintayne the doctrine of them all not that it is absolutely true for that is impossible seing they hold contradictions but that it is free from all impiety and damnable errour This drift pretended and professed so gloriously in the Title and Preface of your booke you crosse and contradict in the bosome and heart thereof condemning Protestants of errours euen in themselues damnable as I shall make good and cleere by the foure ensuing testimonies First Pag. 218. lin 34. I would not be mistaken as though I thought the errours of some Protestants inconsiderable thinges and matters of no moment for the. Truth is I am very fearfull that some of their opinions either as they are or as they are apt to be mistaken though not of themselues so damnable but that iust and holy men may be saued with them yet are frequent occasions of remisnes and not seldome of security in sinning c. Behold you who in your Preface made all Protestants secure of their Saluation because free from errours in themselues damnable now are very fearfull of them and dare not acquit them of errours considerable of moment in themselues damnable though not so damnable but iust and holy men may be saued with them Which qualification of your errours doth not so temper or allay their malignity as to make them lesse damnable then those you impute to the Roman Church seing you often acknowledge that with them and in them good holy soules may be saued 20. Secondly Pag. 21. lin 39. you write more cleerely to make Protestants euen millions of them guilty of damnable errours If any Protestant or Papist be betrayed into or kept in errour by any sinne of his will as it is to be feared many millions are such errour is as the cause of it sinfull and damnable yet not exclusiue of all hope of Saluation but pardonable if discouered vpon a particular and explicite repentance if not discouered vpon a generall and implicite repentance c. Thus you directly accuse Protestants of sinfull and damnable errours of errours pardonable and consequently damnable in themselues For you say pag. 16. n. 21. lin 15. the very saying they were pardonable implies they needed pardon and therefore were in themselues damnable This being so how haue you cleered the Doctrine of all Protestant Sects though not from all falshood yet from all errour in it selfe damnable How do they all of them goe a safe way to saluation if millions of them walke in damnable errours which you say will bring damnation vpon all them that continue in them by their voluntary fault What reason can you bring why your Booke might not be inscribed The Religion of Papists a safe way to Saluation aswell as the Religion of Protestants For you say Protestants erre damnably aswell as we Millions of them aswell as millions of ours their errours are damnable in themselues aswell as ours Ours pardonable by Gods great mercy aswel as theirs they cannot be saued without repentance no more then we and we may be saued in our errors by a generall repentance aswell as they How then is not our Religion a safe way to Saluation aswell as theirs euen by your Booke of purpose written to saue them and damne vs. 21. Thirdly Pag. 280. n. 95. lin 19. Though Protestants haue some Errours yet seing they are neyther so great as yours nor imposed with such tyranny nor maintayned with such obstinacy he that conceaues c. In these wordes you suppose that Protestants haue errours and great errours imposed with tyranny maintayned with obstinacy How then is their Religion a safe way of Saluation Can saluation stand with impious errours imposed vpon others with tiranny and maintayned with obstinacy vntill death But their errours are not you say so great as ours nor imposed with such tiranny nor maintayned with such obstinacy Were this true it would not proue Protestancy to be a good and safe way to Saluation not in it selfe damnable but only that ours is more damnable and a worse way Besides that our errours be greater then theirs is said by you many times but not proued so much as once And seing our errours though as you say damnable in themselues yet be pardonable by Gods great mercy how be the greater then yours which are also damnable in themselues and only