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A52055 Smectymnuus redivivus Being an answer to a book, entituled, An humble remonstrance. In which, the original of liturgy episcopacy is discussed, and quæries propounded concerning both. The parity of bishops and presbyters in scripture demonstrated. The occasion of the imparity in antiquity discovered. The disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested. The antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated. The prelaticall church bounded. Smectymnuus.; Marshall, Stephen, 1594?-1655.; Calamy, Edmund, 1600-1666.; Young, Thomas, 1587-1655.; Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; Spurstowe, William, 1605?-1666. 1654 (1654) Wing M784; ESTC R223740 77,642 91

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●f Geneva were incorporated into him as this Remonstrant doth And for Spanhemius himselfe we may truly say in the place cited he dilivered a complement rather then his judgement which in Dedicatorie Epistles is not unusuall We know that reverend Calvins and learned Beza have said as much upon occasion in their Epistles and yet the Christian world knowes their Judgement was to the contrary Little reason therefore hath this Remonstrant to declaime against all such as speake against this Government as unlawfull with the termes of Ignorance and spitefull Sectaries because they call the Government unlawfull had they proceeded further to call it Antichristian which he charges upon them they had said no more then what our eares have heard some of their principall Agents their L●gat● à Latere speake publikely in their visitations That howeve● th● Chu●ch of ●ngland be as sound and Orthodox in her Doctrine as any Church in the World yet in our Discipline and Government we are the same with the Church of Rome which amounts to as much as to say the Government is Antichristian unless they will say the Government of Rome is not so nor the Pope Antichrist SECT XVI NOw our Remonstrant begins to leave his dispute for the Office and flowes into the large praises of the Persons and what is wanting in his Arguments for the Place thinks to make up in his Encomiasticks of the Persons that have possest that place in the Church of God and tells us that the Religious Bishops of all times are and have been they that have strongly upheld the truth of God against Satan and his Antichrist It is well he sets this crown only upon the heads of Religious Bishops as knowing that there are and have been some Irreligious ones that have as strongly uph●ld Satan and his Antichrist against the truth of God But the Religious Bishops are they that have all times upheld the truth What they and onely they did never any uphold the truth but a Religious Bishop did never any Religious Minister or Professour preach or write or die to uphold the truth but a Religious Bishop if so then there is some perswasive strength in that he saith and a credulous man might be induced to think If Bishops go down truth will go down to● But if we can produce for one Bishop many others that have been valiant for the truth this Rhethoricall insinuation will contribute no great help to their establishment Nor indeed any at all unlesse he were able to make this good of our times as well as of all others which he assaies for saith he Even amongst our own how many of the reverend learned Fathers of the Church now living have spent their spirits worne out their lives in the powerfull opposition of that man of sin how many I Sir we would fain know how many that there are some that have stood up to beare witnesse against that Man of sin we acknowledge with all due respect to the Learning and worth of their Persons But that their Episcopall dignity hath added either any flame to their zeal or any Nerves to their ability we cannot believe nor can we think they would have done lesse in that cause though they had beene no Bishops But what if this be true of some Bishops in the Kingdome is it true of all are there not some that have spent their spirits in the opposition of Christ as others have in the opposition of Antichrist and are there none bu Zealous Religious Prelates in the Kingdom are there none upon whom the guilt of that may meritoriously be charged which others have convincingly and meritoriously opposed And are there not some Bishops in the Kingdome that are so far from opposing the Man of sin that even this Remonstrant is in danger of suffering under the name of Puritan for daring to call him by that name we doubt not but this Remonstrant knowes there are But if he will against the light of his own Conscience beare up a known errour out of private respects we will not say these papers but his own Conscience shall one day be an evidence against him before the dreadfull Tribunall of the Almighty But there is yet a second thing that should endeare Episcopacie and that is the careful peaceable painfull conscionable mannaging of their Charges to the great glory of God and the comfort of his faithfull people Which in not seeming to urge he urgeth to the full and beyond This care conscience paines of our Bishops is exercised and evidenced either in their Preaching or in their Ruling for their Preaching it is true some few there are that Labour in the Word and Doctrine whose persons in that respect we Honour but the most are so far from Preaching that they rather discountenance discourage oppose blaspheme Preaching It was a Non-preaching Bishop that said of a Preaching Bishop He was a Preaching Coxcomb As for the discharge of their office of ruling their entrusting their Chancellors and other Officers with their visitations and Courts as ordinarily they do whiles themselves attend the Court doth abundantly witnesse their care in it The many and loud cries of the intolerable oppressions and tyrannies of their Court-proceedings witnesse their peaceablenesse their unjust fees exactions commutations witnesse their conscionablenesse in managing their Charges to the great glory of God and the comfort of his faithfull people And hence it is that so many at this day hear ill how deservedly saith this Remonstrant God knows and do not your Honours know and doth not this Remonstrant know and doth not all the Nation that will know any thing know how deservedly Some nay Most nay All the Bishops of this Nation hear ill were it but onely for the late Canons and Oath But why should the faults of some diffuse the blame to all Why by your owne argument that would extend the deserts of some to the patronage of All and if it be a fault in the impetuous and undistinguishing Vulgar so to involve all as to make Innocency it self a sin what is it in a Man able to distinguish by the same implication to shrowd sinne under Innocencie the sin of many under the Innocency of a few But have our Bishops indeed beene so carefull painfull conscionable in managing their Charges how is it then that there are such manifold scandalls of the inferiour Clergy presented to your Honours view which he cannot mention without a bleeding heart and yet could finde in his heart if he knew how to excuse them and though he confesse them to be the shame and misery of our Church yet is he not ashamed to plead their cause at your Honours BARRE Onuphrius-like that was the Advocate of every bad cause and to excite you by Constantines example in a differ●nt Cause alledged if not to suffer those Crimes which himselfe calls hatefull to passe unpunished yet not to bring them to tha● open