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A91468 Goliahs head cut off with his own sword; in a combat betwixt little David, the young stripling, who stands in the power and strength of his God, and great Goliah the proud boaster, who stands in his own strength, glorifying in the arm of flesh, and contemning and despising little David, because of his youth. In a reply to a book, set forth by an un-named author, under pretence of an answer to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell, whom he in scorn calls, the young Quaker. And also an answer to severall counter-queries, propounded by the same unnamed authour, whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton, a teacher of the world, at Abbey Rippon, in Huntingtonshire, ... and also he that takes his part, who writes himself W.P. who knowes not the power of God, and therefore glories in the length of time, and the multitude of years. ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the armies of the aliens, who muster up themselves against the Lord, and his authority: by a friend to the common-wealth of Israel, who is known to the world, by the name James Parnel. Who is a sufferer in outward bonds, for the testimony of the everlasting truth, in Colchester Castle. 1655. Parnell, James, 1637?-1656. 1655 (1655) Wing P531; Thomason E861_1; ESTC R203310 65,568 94

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thy ignorance of the true spirit and therefore thou and such false Prophets as thou thus smites at and persecutes us that are called Quakers because the Lord is pleased to bestow his spirit upon us whereby we are able to declare your deceipt and manifest your lying spirits who have professed your selves the Ministers of Christ yet strangers to his spirit and opposers of his truth like Jannes and Jambres who are men of corrupt mindes and Reprobates concerning the faith 2 Tim. 3.8 And to the second part of the Query thou sayst P. Ans that the wind doth blow where it listeth if it be not stopped yet are there many false windes which blow likewise from a deceiptful spirit which to prove thou quotest Eph. 4.14 that we henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro with every winde of Doctrine and sayst Minde this James This I do minde and still sees how thou markest out thy selfe with thy deceiptfull spirit Rep. for if the winde do blowe where it listeth which thou acknowledgest then what is that in you professed Ministers which goes about to stop it with gainsaying and persecution and would limit the spirit of God unto a Text or Theme from which you with your deceitful spirits do raise uses points tryalls and motives c. whereby many poore Creatures are tossed to and fro and carried about with your airy spirits with the slight and cunning craftiness of your brains whereby you study to deceive as thou mayst read in the latter end of the verse which thou hast quoted Ephes 4.14 which here shall stand against thee and so many are the Children which are tossed to and fro by you although they have both beards and age as thou sayst yea some are 30. some 40 some 50 some 60 yea 80. and never yet come to the knowledge of the truth and thus with feigned words through covetousness you make Marchandize of the people beguiling unstable souls but think not that all you false Prophets with the beast that upholds you can stop or quench this spirit which now bloweth where it listeth for with all the slight and craftiness that you can use you shall be made to fall before it and the fruits of your labours shall be given you Whether thou wilt own immediate Revelation now Query 7. yea or nay And in thy Answer thou sayst P. Ans the Apostle teacheth you to pray for the spirit of wisdom and Revelation in the acknowledgement of God which to prove thou quotes Ephes 1.17 but sayst there are many false lights and delusions of Sathan who too often transforms himselfe as an Angel of Light 2 Cor. 11.14 which thou sayst are entertained by unwary men for the Illuminations and Revelations of Gods spirit as appears in Zedekiah aforesaid which to prove thou quotes Ezek. 13.6 2 Thes 2.11 Here again thou hast marked out thy selfe Reply and also belies the Apostle for that Scripture in Ephes 1.17 onely makes mention how the Apostle prayed for the Ephesians that believed but it doth not at all prove that the Apostle taught you that are of the world to pray for the prayers of the wicked are abhominable Prov. 15 8. and the Apostle would not teach such to pray and though in thy Answer the substance of my Query is confessed yet it doth not serve to prove that thou dost witness it in thy selfe or own it where it is possessed who would barre it from youth and limit it to time and age and so shewes thy ignorance of it and that by the false lights and delusions of Satan thou art deceived who in thee rules as an Angel of Light and so thou art one of those unwary men who takes a lying spirit for an infallible spirit as is both here and often before proved who art found in Zedekiahs steps and so art one of those false Prophets which the Prophet speaks of who saith the Lord saith when he never spoke to thee as is before proved and how long have you professed Ministers of this Nation fed the people with expectations and hopes that you would confirm what you have spoken unto them which is not yet come to passe neither likely and thus you have deceived them by your lying divinations for your dishonest gain and therefore for this cause God hath given you up to strong delusions that you should believe a lie that you all might be damned who believe not the truth now it is come unto you but still take pleasure in unrighteousness as in those Scriptures aforesaid which thou hast quoted against thy selfe and so they shall stand What is the Gospel which thou art a Minister of Qu 8. and whether thy Gospel be free and without charge And in thy Answer thou sayst to the first part P. Ans that the Gospel which thou preachest is the same which Christ and his Apostles taught which thou sayst is summarily contained in these four verses Tit. 2.11 12 13 14. wherein the Apostle speaks of the grace of God to be their Teacher to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live soberly justly and godlily in this present World c. And to the second part thou sayst the Apostles Gospel was not every way without charge which to prove thou quotes 2 Cor. 11.8 and again thou sayst Nor hath Christ or any of his Apostles imposed it upon you that the Gospel should be altogether without charge unto them which have it taught which to prove thou quotes Rom. 15.27 And again thou sayst nor is James Parnells Gospel be it right or wrong without charge If he do not take more then it is worth if duly examined it is well Thy Spirit is much against James Parnell Rep. as Zedekia's was against Michajah yet here he can prove thee to be a lier and not onely against him but of his Lord also and therefore if thou beliest the Lord how much more the servant Joh. 1.29 for Christ Jesus the Lambe of God was the Gospel which the Apostles preached which was free and not chargeable to any though he was and is a burdensom stone to them that beleive not in him yet not chargeable And therefore thou blasphemer how darest thou to open thy mouth thus against the Lord and his anointed who art still in thy ungodlinesse and worldly lustes who art pleading for the earth and art a stranger to the free grace of God and therefore these verses which thou hast set downe shall stand to witnesse against thee which thou saist containeth the Gospel which thou preachest but the Apostles Gospel could not be contained in Paper Inke for the heavens could not containe him for he ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things and also of thy Gospel thou makest a trade and a gaine Eph. 4.10 being many yeares at an University as thou calest it to learn to preach it all which the Apostles did not and so thou bringest another
GOLIAHS HEAD Cut off with his own Sword In a Combat betwixt little David The young Stripling who stands in the power and strength of his God and great Goliah the proud Boaster who stands in his own strength glorifying in the arm of flesh and contemning and despising little David because of his youth In a Reply to a Book set forth by an un-named Author under pretence of an Answer to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell whom he in scorn calls the young Quaker And also an Answer to severall Counter-Queries propounded by the same unnamed Authour whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton A Teacher of the World at Abbey Rippon in Huntingtonshire wherein his folly and ignorance is much layd open and the pride and deceipt of his spirit much manifested And also he that takes his part who writes himself W. P. who knowes not the power of God and therefore glories in the Length of time and the multitude of years But Solomon who was a wiser man then great Goliah said that the honourable age is not that which is of long time neither that which is measured by the Number of years but wisdom is the gray hair and an undefiled life is old Age. And therefore let not the wise man glory in his wisdom nor the strong man glory in his strength for it is vanity Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the Armies of the Aliens who muster up themselves against the Lord and his Authority by a friend to the Common-wealth of Israel who is known to the World by the name James Parnel Who is a sufferer in outward bonds for the testimony of the everlasting truth in Colchester Castle 1655. London Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. The Title of the aforesaid Book An Answer according to truth that trembles not nor quakes nor quaileth given to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell commonly called the young Quaker to an ancient Country Minister with some Counter-Queries by the said Minister unto the said young Quack and his fellows HEre thou mayst be ashamed to stile thy selfe an ancient Minister Reply Heb. 12.21 Jer. 23.9 Job 4.14 Ezek. 12.10 who manifests such an Ishmaels spirit who with reproachfull words makes a scoffe at the power of truth which the Ministers of God in all ages witnessed which made them to quake and tremble And though the truth neither quake nor quaileth yet all that owned the truth owned and witnessed quaking and trembling which truth thou manifests thy selfe but a professor of and a stranger to the power and a despiser thereof and therefore out from among the Ministers of Christ thou art raised Eccles 12.3 And thy Answer is not according to truth but a Lie as shall further be made to appear hereafter by him whom thou calls the young Quack and it seems fear surpriseth the heart of the Hypocrite P F. 22.14 15. Priest so that thou art ashamed to own thy work with thy name And whereas thou sayst Courteous Reader we are forced notwithstanding so many Pāphlets extant against the people called Quakers to give answer to thirty six Queries of James Parnells the young Quaker Although thou hast boasted thy selfe an ancient Minister Rep. and contemns me as a young Boy yet here it appears that thou art glad of others to help thee to answer my Queries as these words before mentioned doth testifie And yet it is but a Pamphlet as thou and thy helpers do confess that those many are that are extant against the people called Quakers And then thou run on in way of reproach and scorn against me because of my youth but the wisdom of Solomon answereth you That a poor and wise Child is better then an old foolish King who will no more be admonished Eccles 4.13 And therefore when you think of your age consider also your folly and let that stop your mouthes from professing your selves Ancients who manifests such a Light scornful spirit and hates to be reformed And whereas thou sayst thou doubtest not Priest but his Queries are the dictates of others deceiving and being deceived which they yet put under the Boyes name for the Credit of their cause Here also without doubt Rep. thy unbelieving heart is manifested who without ground measurest others according to thine own heart who because thou makest use of the dictates of others as here doth plainly appear therefore censurest others which doth not adde credit to thy cause because thou boasts of thy age But according as thou believes Priest so be it to thee yet nevertheless thou shalt finde that the truth I shall maintain against thee who with thy unbelieving heart art deceiving and being deceived and then thou runs on in the pride of thy spirit accusing of me to be ignorant of the truth of God because as thou sayst Priest of the false wording of my Queries But with shame might thou speak it Rep. for openly hast thou manifested to the understanding Reader thy selfe to be a meer stranger both to God and his truth also who would limit the truth of God to a humane art which many of the Children of God had not Act. 4.13 and therefore the power of God was the more manifested And when Peter and John was brought before the learned men to wit the chief Priests and the Rulers and they wondered at them because they perceived they was unlearned men and thus with thy wisdom and thy great learning thou art shut out of the truth in the naturall but by this I do not own thy accusation to be truth against me for I have a Copy of the Queries of my own hand writing which was the originall of those that was sent to thee which will bear testimony against thee to be a false accuser and how thou thy selfe hast wronged them and misworded them because they was in the crosse unto thy wisdom And to maintain this thou bringest a story in Erasmus nevertheless the story which thou bringest doth not at all touch me but may fitly be returned into thy new bosom where it shall lie Then thou and thy Agent beseeches the Reader to read without partiality which if he do he will judge no otherwise of you then as I have declared but will see how you have uttered forth your folly and foamed out your shame in going about to contradict the truth And at the end of this your Epistle to the Reader I finde W. P. which I judge to be one of thy Agents to this your shamefull work to which thou darst not own thy name My first Querie Where 1 Qu P An. and how and by what wast thou called to the Ministry which thou professest And in thy answer to this Querie thou goest about to plead many excuses whereby to fly the answering of my Queries saying it is easier for him that is yet in
abroad to preach the Gospel 0 neither allowed them 100 or 200 pounds by the yeare as thou hast but they chose out those that were strong in the faith and set them to watch over the weake but those Churches was gathered by the power and Spirit of God and was turned from darknesse to light and was washed clensed and sanctified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God but out of your Church cast Drunkerds and Swearers and Liers and Proud and Covetous ones and adulterous and Idolaters and Quarrellers and Fighters and Scoffers 1 Cor. 6.11 and Scorners and Backbiters and Envious ones and Prophane and wanton ones and the like who are neither washed nor sanctified and then see where will be the Church of England and the Pastors Teachers and Elders Rv. 3. and all then you that profess your selves to be the Church of Christ will be found the synagogue of Satan whose Minister thou art and also Paul and Barnabas who ordained them Elders was men indued with the holy Spirit of the Lord and was immediately called and chosen to the Ministry and had a Spirit of discerning to know who was fitted for the Elder-ship and all this was done without an University or serving seven yeares to learne Arts and Sciences or taking Degrees without which you can do nothing and also those Superiors and Governours that ordaine you teachers and governours have nothing but what they have gotten by art and study and reading of others experiences but are ignorant of the power of God neither knowes whether there be any Holy-Ghost yea or nay but by the hearing of the eare but scofs and scornes and and persecutes those that now do witnesse these things and they themselves was also first ordained by the will of man and thus thou hast but so much the more manifested thy selfe to the world in going about to prove thy selfe a called Minister by the Scripture which doth altogether witnesse against thee And whereas thou would'st have me to prove my Call by an infallible Testimony I tell thee without an infallible Testimony I do not goe neither without an infallible Testamony doe I desire to be received or owned and to this the infallible Spirit of truth beares Testimony in all the Children of truth and thou that hast not an infallible Testimony either with me or against mee art still in darknesse and knowes not the truth then farre unfit to be a teacher to others Whether thou art guided by the same infallible Spirit that gave forth the Scripture 3 Query And in thy answer thou saist P. Ans that we our selves teach that all men are taught and guided by that Spirit at times and secondly thou saist thou praises God for it thou art guided and assisted by that Spirit which is alwaies infallible and thirdly thou saist thou doubt whether any of those that are called Quakers are alwaies guided by that Spirit Here all that are guided by any measure of that Spirit may easily see thy lies and confusion for thy first is a lie Rep. that any of us doe teach that all men are taught and guided by that Spirit at times for I deny that thou art who art now taken with a lie in thy mouth which all that understands our doctrine will witnesse against and secondly that thou art guided by an infallible Spirit is a lie against the Holy-Ghost for no lie comes from that Spirit And againe thou belies the Spirit of truth to say thou art guided by it and yet cannot give an infallible Testimony whether those thou calls Quakers are guided by an infallible Spirit yea or nay but art in thy doubts Joh. 8.44 but that Spirit is without doubts which now judgeth thee to be a lier and thy God thou praises to be the Devill the Father of lies who must both be tormented together Whether they that are guided by that Spirit need study how or what to say 4 Qu. And in thy answer thou saist P. An Timothy had that Spirit in a greater measure then James Parnell yet Paul saith thus unto him as in 1 Tim. 4.13 14 15 16. And thou saist if the Apostles had beene put to it to preach upon a short Text or Theme Methodically as by long practice in the Church is expected from you they must oft times have studied for it as thou conceivest though if you were left at large to speake as the Spirit of God mo es you and giveth matter in thou hopes some of you by Gods assistance should speake as togood or better purpose then any whonow pretend to the spiritsactings Here thou hast sufficiently manifested thy spirit Rep and thy ignorance of the spirit of God to any who understands the things of the spirit of God and all these Scriptures which thou hast brought concerning Timothy doth not at all prove that he that is guided by the spirit of God need study how or what to preach But Paul exhorted Timothy to the gift that was in him which was given him by or for prophesie for in so doing he should save himself and those that heard him which you never do by the fruit of your study but rather destroyes them witness the fruits of your Ministry this many years in this Nation who have wrought no better Reformation amongst your hearers and also this Scripture doth not at all prove that Paul bid Timothy study old Authours and heathenish Commentators as you do neither to study Arts and Sciences as you do who with your Philosophy Col. 2.8 and vain deceipt do spoile the people for thou hast manifested thy selfe to be altogether ignorant of the spirit of God who by thy own conceivings judgest the spirit of God to be unsufficient to instruct and teach the Apostles what to speak at all times without study when as Christ himselfe exhorteth them to take no thought what to speak for it should be given them in the very same houre Mat. 10.19 20. for saith he It is not you that speaks but the spirit of your Father that speaketh in you which spirit speaketh not without method which spirit you Teachers of the Church of England are great strangers to who think that the spirit of God can be limited to a Text or a Theme as thou confessest you are but thou lier where is now thy infallible spirit who thus speakest thy own conceivings and therefore be ashamed hence forward to pretend to an infa lible spirit who hast here so openly manifesied thy ignorance of it and its movings so that if thou wast left at large to speak from that spirit in thee was shut out of thy Liberary from any Text or Writing Isay 56.10 thou wouldst plainly manifest thy self to be one of the dumb Dogs that could not bark which I saiah from the spirit of the Lord declared against without study for I do believe that if thou and the rest of the nationall
Teachers whom thou confessest are tyed to a text or Theme could tell how to pleafe the people and get gain without studying or speaking from a Text you would for the credit of your cause as thou sayst for I know nothing that ties you to it but your own covetous ends to make a gain of these Scriptures and to deceive the ignorant with feigned words 2 Pet. 2.3 whom Peter without study foretold of and therefore thou Hypocrite pretend no more to an infallible spirit but with the rest of thy Brethren confess thou art void of it as many of them have done for in such pretences thou art but the greater deceiver and thy folly doth the more appear Whether is it as lawfull now for Tradesmen 5. Query Shepheards or Plowmen to preach if they be led by the spirit of God as those that spake forth the Scripture And in thy answer thou sayst P. Answ if this was wholly granted James Parnell cannot claim any interest therein as thou conceivest for thou sayst he is neither Tradesman Plowman or Shepheard nor will take any course to maintain himself by his labour for he hath been tryed But herein James Parnell can plainly tell thee Reply thou art a Lyer for he followed a Trade with his Father untill the Lord by his spirit called him from it into his own work so I obeyed the word of the Lord and left my Father with his Trade Mat. 4.21 Mat. 10.37 38. as James and John did their Father in the Ship for he that will not forsake Father and Mother Lands and Livings Wife and Children and all for Christs sake is not worthy of him in which work neither thou nor any other can tax me for idleness but I believe my labour and diligence in the same is more offensive to you deceivers then if I had been Idle But he that would call me from this work that I am set about into the work of man I should answer him God must be served before man for if it had not been the will of God to call me forth into his work I should stall have served my earthly Father sooner then any other man notwithstanding the evill thoughts and conceivings of such like as thee who art given up to believe lies and tell lies but where is now thy infallible spirit who speakest by thy own conceivings and thus the thoughts of thy heart deceives thee and as for my maintenance I need not a Law to compel it as thou dost neither am chargeable to the World as thou art who by a Law of man takest nigh 300. l by the yeare of them therefore in this thou might have laid thy hand upon thy mouth for thou and hundreds more of thy Brethren never followed any honest Calling whereby to get an honest livelihood without being chargeable to the World but was from your youths brought up at Babylons Schools learning her wich-craft and sorcery thereby to deceive the Nations and through covetousness with feigned words make marchandize of them which you nowspare not And secondly thou grants P. Answ that if men be made of God spirituall whether Shepheards or Plowmen first they may teach But thirdly thou sayst every man that hath the spirit in some measure doth not attain to that height growth and degree that they did who gave forth the Scriptures and therefore may not as lawfully nor as infallibly teach as they did and thou sayst nor can thou discern clearly that the best amongst them called Quakers have yet reached that degree or dispensation of the spirit and after much dissembling speeches thou manifests thy light and frothy spirit still despising me because of my youth but thy words are not worth mentioning And thu swhen thou opens thy mouth Reply concerning the Spirit thou manifests thy folly and ignorance of the spirit so that a Babe may comprehend thee and tell thee of thy folly and when thou thinkest of thy beard or age as thou sayst confusion of face may cover thee for though every one that hath the spirit in some measure doth not attain to that height grouth and degree that they did who gave forth the Scripture yet it doth not follow that none doth attain to that grouth height and degree and they that have attained to the same spirit in a measure and by the same spirit are moved and called forth may as lawfully and as infallibly teach as they did in their measures for the same spirit is infallible in the least measure and its call is lawful and thus thou shewest thou was never called nor led by it who art so ignorant of it and as here also doth further appear in that thou confessest thou discernest not the people called Quakers and therefore art blind and from thee the secrets of God are hid and it doth not follow that they are ever the less spiritual but rather more because thou canst not discern them who pretends thy selfe a spiritual man and thus they are attained to that degree they can discern thee to be a blind guide and deceiver of the World and therefore is thy spirit the more against them for all thy flattering and dissembling speeches from thy hypocritical heart who bends thy Tongue like a Bow against them uttering forth lies in hypocrisie and with thy sconrful spirit reproachest me with lies but it was thy Generation that quaked for fear of the downfall of their Kingdom and therefore persecuted me and imprisoned me yet their fear did not overtake me for I was made as willing to suffer as they was to inflict as knowing it was for his cause who will make you all to quake and tremble who lift up your heels against him and as thou compares Cambridg to Jericho so the curse of Jericho shal come upon it for its whordom and sorceries and stifneckedness against the Lord and his anointed and though thou thus scornest me and despisest me because of my youth yet it is because thou knowest not the Scripture nor the power of God Whether any are the Ministers or Messengers of Christ but those that are guided by his spirit Query 6. and abide in his Doctrine as the holy men of God was in Scripture and whether the wind doth not now blow where it listeth And in thy answer to the first part P. Ans thou grants that none are the true Ministers Messengers of Christ but those that are in some measure guided by his spirit and abide in his Doctrine But secondly thou sayst men may think that they have that spirit and yet be led by the lying spirit as Zedekiah who smote Michajah was 1 King 22.24 Herein thou markest out thy selfe for a deceiver who pretends to the spirit Reply and it is the lying spirit as is before proved and so art shut out from the Ministers and Messengers of Christ who art not guided by his spirit and therefore abides not in his Doctrine as is before proved by