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A52875 The sentiments of N.N. (a loyal subject of the Roman Catholick communion) touching the Roman consistorie's designs and practices, by and with their correspondents here, (viz. the Jesuits, monks and friers) to the prejudice of this nation, and the future involving it in misery and trouble, under the (feigned) pretence of advancing Catholick religion : together with some general remedies or expedients for preventing thereof, expresses in certain propositions, and humbly submitted to the censure of those whose prudence, or authority inables them better to judge of things. N. N., loyal subject of the Roman Catholick communion. 1679 (1679) Wing N55; ESTC R5986 30,279 45

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of Religion Proposition XLVIII I meant only to insist upon such matters as related to the Church and State of England otherwise I could willingly enough have added more of the like evil practices which for my part I cannot but a little suspect that the same parties viz. those of the Roman Court and its Emissaries Agents c. do use in other Foreign Countries and particularly in that so important business of Candia so long and so hard besieged by the Turks I profess to you Gentlemen and to all the World if you think fit I cannot free my Thoughts from frequent suspicions and fears that even in this great affair of Candia the Consistory proceeds not so faithfully as it should to the Interest of Christendom and of those brave Men who have to their immortal same and merit so long defended it corresponding contrariwise more or less with those of the Divan and being if not more willing it should fall into the Turks hands than otherwise yet they are indifferent in the case and care not much though it do That which makes me have this apprehension are These General Observations following First I do certainly know if their own reports be of certain credit as I doubt not but they are in these matters that the Jesuits have got a very considerable Interest even at Constantinople and I believe even in the Court it self by their cunning and compliant addresses their dissembling in religion where they see cause and allowing others to do so so that there wants no means of entertaining correspondence if the parties be willing Secondly I observe that the Persian the Turks constant enemy and who is known ever upon such occasions as this to have found opportunity and some pretence or other to invade his Dominions doth not in all this time of his Enemies being so deeply engaged here in any sort stir against him But 't is alike certain the Jesuits are not a little prevalent in that Court too and may for ought any Man knows to the contrary by their practices and arts help to stave off such resolutions in favour of the Turk Thirdly the Pope's Gallies sent the last Summer to their Succour under the command of his Nephew so unseasonably and hastily returning as creditable report says they did and carrying off with them the Gallies of Malta and Sicily also and thereby leaving the Seas free for the Turk to send Supplies to his Army which by their faithful and constant attendance upon that Service as 't was hoped they would have done might with God's blessing have been hindered What can all this signifie but the cold and uncordial affections which was on that side towards the safety of the place Fourthly the like sudden return also of the greatest part of the French Succours lately sent upon a disgust taken as they say by their General at some disappointment he met with which was occasion'd by the Consistory Neither can I have any other thoughts concerning the present return of the Duke de Navailes with the Succours last sent than as proceeding from the prevalency of Consistorial Counsels both in the French Court in their Ships at Sea and perhaps even at Candia it self Lastly because that to be so indifferent and prevaricating in the business is consonant enough to the Principles they go upon in other cases measuring and doing all things according as Temporal Interest leads them and nothing without it or out of any good and pure motives of religion If it be demanded what Interest the Pope or Consistory can have to advance the Turkish power I answer very much I do not mean so far to advance it as to bring it over near themselves They are wiser than to do so But to detain it upon the Frontiers of Christendom and there to suffer the Turk rather to gain than lose ground I must confess I am more than half of opinion it may be both the Interest and the design of Rome and that for this end namely that in case Christian princes should go about at any time by the Authority of a General Council effectually to redress the many abuses in Religion and Church-government which are countenanced and supported by the corrupt Doctrine and bad example of that Court they of the Consistory may have the Turks power at hand to let in upon them to disturb the work A thing of no great difficulty for the Consistory to procure by their practices and Ministers in the Ottoman Court and which without doubt they will do whensoever such a case happens if good heed be not taken And therefore I say they care the less at present to permit the Turks reducing of Candia and thereby making himself master of the whole Isle of Crete knowing they shall have him so much the nearer amongst us Whereby also the Roman Agents living disguiz'd at Constantinople gain so much the more credit there with those they treat with and advance their Interest in the Ottoman State and Councils Whereas on the other side if the Consistory were faithful in the case and would permit his Holiness to give that assistance there to himself which he well might and also to exhort Christians so effectually to the defence of it as he ought and that Christian Princes would rightly apprehend the occasion which God gives them and send their Succours thither in such unanimous and considerable manner as the place and cause doth most justly require This Noble and Renowned Candia might by God's merciful Providence and Favour prove a Rock whereon the whole Power of the Ottoman Tyranny should in fine split it self and Christendom be restored to its just primitive and most to be wish'd for Liberty But alas private Interest rules and prevails too much every where for such good and publick resolutions to be taken to any effect POST-SCRIPT to the precedent Matter The place is now lost and yielded up to the Turks but with such evident Symptoms of some secret Treachery amongst the Defendants causing disunion of Counsels and ill-management of Affairs as do not at all lessen my former suspicion And as I do very easily believe what I have heard said That the loss of it was the Death of the last Pope so I do as little doubt but if the Truth were known he griev'd not more for the loss of the place than that it was lost by such Means and Contrivances as he out of Piety would but through the prevalency of contrary Counsels in his Court was not able to hinder Proposition XLIX A fresh occasion I have of like fear from the Turks last Summer so easily taking of Caminiec in the Frontier Provinces of Poland A place heretofore accounted and found to be impregnable to all Infidel Powers whether of Turks or Tartars and a great Bulwark of Christendom on that side now rendred as it were upon Summons The pretence for it is want of and some Casualty happening to their powder But the like accident happening and occasioning the loss