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A44111 An answer to several material passages in a book published some time since by W.P. entituled, A brief examination and state of liberty spiritual, both with respect to persons in their private capacity, and in their church-society and communion, &c. by J.H. Hogg, John, fl. 1675-1698. 1691 (1691) Wing H2368; ESTC R13730 50,925 60

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