Christ and applying him to vs which is not the propertie of any other grace Thirdly by onely wee meane that in the act of iustification before God this faith onely and alone is that grace which applyeth Christ vnto vs and is the instrumentall cause of our iustification and not that hereby wee doe seclude repentance charitie and good workes from being liuely fruits and effects of faith but no causes at all of our iustification before God Yet vnderstanding these tearmes thus they hold That a man is not iustified before God onely by faith Confuted by their owne Bible 1. IT secludeth from our iustification before God three things First the Law from being able to iustifie vs Gal. 3. 11. It is manifest that in the Law no man is iustified with God Rom. 8. 3. It was impossible by the Law being weakened by the flesh Act. 13. 39. You could not be iustified by the Law of Moses Secondly All the workes of the Law Rom. 3. 20. 4. 2. Gal. 2. 16. By the workes of the Law shall no flesH be iustified before him being iustified gratis by his grace vers 24. Thirdly All a mans owne iustice in the state of grace For Saint Paul layeth aside his owne iustice which is of the Law Phil. 3. 9. yea and denyeth himselfe to bee iustified by his owne well-doing for he saith I am not guilty in conscience of any thing but I am not iustified herein 1. Cor. 4. 4. Thus wee see what is secluded from iustifying of vs. Secondly it ascribeth iustice to faith Rom. 10. 6. iustice which is of faith and this is the iustice of God in faith Phil. 3. 9. by which faith wee are iustified Rom. 3. 8. Rom. 5. 1. Gal. 2. 24. Thirdly in the act of iustification by faith it secludeth works from it saying Rom. 3. 28. We account a man to bee iustified without the workes of the Law Rom. 4. 5. Faith is reputed to iustice to him that worketh not Gal. 2. 16. A man is not iustified by the workes of the Law but by the faith of Iesus Christ How cleere are these places for iustification by faith only when they seclude workes and giue it to faith Fourthly it no where exhorteth vs to iustification For iustification is not a vertue in vs nor our worke but the worke of Christ who is our righteousnesse Ier. 23. 6. Rom. 10. 4. 1. Cor. 1. 30. But we are exhorted to beleeue Now of faith most excellent and admirable things are spoken for our euerlasting comfort By it Christ dwelleth in vs Ephes 3. 17. By it we are made the children of God Gal. 3. 26. Ioh. 3. 12. 1. Ioh. 5. 1. By it wee liue Hab. 2. 4. Rom. 1. 17. Gal. 2. 20. we stand 2. Cor. 1. 24. we walke 2. Cor. 5. 7. wee haue boldnesse accesse with confidence to God Ephes 3. 12. Rom. 5. 2. and peace with God Rom. 5. 1. and without this it is impossible to please God Heb. 11. 6. For to this is imputed iustice Gal. 3. 6. Rom. 4. 3. and 9. 31. by this are we iustified Rom. 3. 28. Gal. 3. 8. attaining to the righteousnesse of God by it Phil. 3. 9. By this doe we ouercome the world 1. Ioh. 5. 4. By this are wee kept vnto saluation 1. Pet. 1. 5. By this wee haue eternall life Ioh. 3. 36. and are saued Ephes 2. 8. wee shall not perish Ioh. 3. 16. nor come into condemnation but passe from death to life Ioh. 5. 24. Thus we see the excellencie of this faith in Christ which is called the faith of the elect Tit. 1. 1. the end where of is the saluation of our soules 1. Pet. 1. 9. And that wee might not rest vpon any other thing but vpon Christ by faith the Apostle saith Gal. 5. 6. In Iesus Christ neither circumcision auaileth any thing nor vncircumcision but faith which worketh by loue Contraried by Antiquitie Touching iustification by faith onely the ancient Fathers are very cleare for vs against the Papists Chrysost hom 3. ad Tit. If thou beleeuest why addest thou other things to faith as if faith onely could not suffice to iustifie And in Hom. 7. Rom. 3. speaking of Gods goodnesse saith he not onely saueth vs but also iustifieth and glorifieth vs vsing no works hereunto but requireth faith onely Hilar. Can. 8. in Matth. saith Faith onely iustifieth Basil Hom. de humilit saith This is true and perfect reioycing in God when a man is not lifted vp in his owne righteousnesse but knoweth himselfe to be without true righteousnesse and to be iustified by faith * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 onely in Iesus Christ Ambros on Rom. 3. They are iustified freely because doing nothing neither repaying againe any thing in stead thereof they are iustified onely by faith And on Rom. 4. There is no need of the Law seeing the wicked is iustified onely by faith Theophylact. on 3. chap. ad Galat. Faith onely saith hee hath in it the power to iustifie Hesychius in Leuit. 14. lib. 1. Grace is apprehended onely by faith and not by workes Primasius ad Rom. 5. ad Gal. 2. He doth iustifie the wicked by faith onely Faith onely sufficeth you vnto saluation Theodoret in Ephes 2. By faith onely he forgiueth sinnes Bernard in Cant. Serm. 22. Beleeue in God that iustifieth sinners and being iustified by faith onely hee shall haue peace with God Thus the Fathers speake according to the Scripture in our manner of speaking in plaine termes Gainesaid by themselues Aquinas on Rom. 3. lect 4. Gal. 3. lect 4. Workes be not saith he the cause why a man is iust before God but rather they are the manifestation and execution of his iustice For no man is iustified by workes but by the habit of faith infused yea iustification is done by faith onely The ordinary Glosse Iam. 2. saith That Abraham was not iustified by the workes he did but by faith onely his oblation being a worke of his faith and a testimonie of his righteousnesse Erasmus saith that the word onely which now a dayes they showt at so in Luther is reuerently heard and read in the writings of the Fathers And Bellarmine de iustific lib. 5. cap. 7. saith It is most safe to repose our whole confidence in the onely mercy and goodnesse of God which is in effect that which wee teach in this point of iustification Scriptures obiected answered 1. Cor. 13. 2. Though I haue all faith so that I could remoue mounaines and haue no charitie I am nothing Answ 1. The faith here is of working miracles and not of iustifying faith Secondly to haue faith without charitie is spoken of here by supposition for true sauing faith is that which workes by loue which wee teach and allow not of a fruitlesse faith Thirdly this is not against the tenent that faith onely iustifieth For here is no word of iustification but a condemning of a faith without loue which iustifying faith is not without For though faith onely
iustifyeth yet it is not alone without charitie and other fruits which euer accompany it to shew it to bee sauing faith but yet not as any causes with it of our iustification Iam. 2. 24. Ye see therefore how that by workes a man is iustified and not by faith onely Answ To shew the sence and plaine meaning of these words which are the conclusion from the former discourse wee must consider First to whom Iames speaketh hee speaketh to vaine men verse 20. which boasted of their faith saying they had faith and yet were without workes verse 14. This was the occasion of the Apostles discourse Secondly the scope which was not to shew what place faith hath in iustification whether that faith onely iustifie before God for that was Saint Pauls drift to the Romanes Rom. 4. 5. but this here is onely to shew what faith it is that saueth not verse 14. Thirdly the faith here spoken of and condemned is such a faith First as stood onely in words without workes like the charitie of such who say to the poore Goe in peace be warme and filled but yet giue them nothing to warme and fill them verse 15 16. Secondly a dead faith verse 17. 20 26. Thirdly an Historicall faith which the diuels themselues haue Fourthly a faith contrary to Abrahams faith For his was an operatiue faith and which he that hath can shew by workes verse 18 21. a faith that worketh by works shewing it selfe to bee perfect that is true and sincere verse 22. By which faith Abraham beleeuing it was counted to him for righteousnesse ver 23. where note that when righteousnesse which was counted to Abraham is mentioned it is ascribed to his faith which so did shew it selfe by workes and not to his deeds done which Saint Paul makes the fruits of this his faith Heb. 11. 17. Therefore all these things premised and cleerely manifest out of the Text these words in this verse 24. carry the sense Ye see therefore by all this aforesaid how that by workes that is by faith shewed by workes that a man is iustified and not by faith onely that is by faith alone a solitarie faith which hath no workes of which the vaine man boasteth For onely here is vsed for alone For when the Greekes place the word onely after faith as here then it signifieth alone but before faith it signifieth only 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And this interpretation first is agreeing to the scope of the Apostle Iames here Secondly it doth not oppose S. Pauls Doctrine Rom. 3. and 4. which secludeth workes from faith in the act of our iustification Thirdly the words in this Text of Iames confirmeth this exposition that workes are put for faith shewed by works in ver 18. where he bringeth one in vrging to shew faith by workes Also when in verse 21. he had spoken of Abrahams iustification by workes he by and by saith verse 22. Seest thou how faith wrought by his workes And then thereupon produceth Scripture in verse 23. to proue not that Abrahams worke was counted to him for righteousnesse as Iames would haue done if he had intended to teach iustificatiō by works but that it was the faith of Abraham which did worke by workes that made him to be reputed righteous before God Gal. 5. 6. For in Iesus Christ neither Circumcision auaileth any thing nor vncircumcision but faith which worketh by loue Answ This place magnifieth sauing faith which worketh by loue for which we plead and therefore is nothing against but altogether for that which we teach for we speake not of alone faith but of onely faith in the act of iustification The places cited by the Gagger Matth. 5. 20. Except your righteousnesse exceede the righteousnesse of the Scribes and Pharises c. Answ This place is not to the purpose for here is no mention of faith nor of iustification by faith but here is one righteousnesse preferred before another That of the Scribes and Pharises bringeth not to Heauen for it was legall sought by workes and to establish their owne righteousnesse being ignorant of the righteousnesse of God Rom. 10. 3. which is Euangelicall sought by faith and inherent in Christ in all fulnesse of perfection which exceeded the righteousnesse of the Scribes and Pharises Mat. 7. 21 22. Not euery one that saith to me Lord Lord c. Answ This is nothing neither to proue the point This is against idle and vaine professors of Christ that haue not the faith that iustifieth Matth. 11. 26. Yea O Father for so it was thy good pleasure This is foolishly quoted Matth. 12. 33. Is of a fruitfull and fruitlesse tree Matth. 16. 16. Thou art Christ the Sonne of the liuing God Peters profession of his faith The very naming of these sheweth the vanity of this Gaggers citing of Scriptures Matth. 19. 17. If thou wilt enter into life keepe the Commandements Answ 1. This is nothing against iustification by faith onely which faith is neuer without obedience to Gods commandements 2. Christ speakes not of that which the young man was able to doe but he seeking righteousnesse by the Law Christ answered him thereafter legally intending to discouer to him his rashnesse and pride as the euent sheweth For the young man was couetous and loued his riches on earth more then treasure in heauen verse 21 22. Gal. 3. 12. But the Law is not of faith but the man that doth them shall liue in them Answ The whole course of the context is for iustification by faith and against iustification by works The eighth vers speaks of the iustification of the Gentiles through faith The ninth verse saith that they that be of faith are blessed with faithfull Abraham The tenth verse pronounceth them that are of the deeds of the Law accursed The 11. verse confidently auerreth that no man is iustified by the Law in the sight of God and giueth the reason for the iust shall liue by faith In verse 12. is an argument to refell confidence in workes For the Law saith he is not of faith So as if we liue by faith wee cannot liue by the Law for it propounds life to the doers but not to beleeuers as the Gospell doth 1. Tim. 5. 8. If any prouide not for his owne c. Hath not he an idle braine is not he worthy to be gagged for a lewd babbler that will alledge this Scripture against iustification by faith onely when we speake of a holy liuely and obedient faith 1. Ioh. 2. 4. He that saith he knowes him and keepes not his commandements c. 1. Ioh. 3. 22. Whatsoeuer we shall aske because we keepe his commandements and doe those things which are pleasing in his sight Answ The first place condemneth knowledge without practice So doe we and such a faith too The second is an effect of that good confidence in God spoken of in verse 21. describing such as haue such boldnesse towards God by the true signes and fruits of
is the cause of error Mat. 22. 29. Yee doe erre not knowing the Scriptures Error then is from ignorance of the Scriptures The Apostles doubting of Christs resurrection a maine point of Faith without which all is vaine 1. Cor. 15. is ascribed to their ignorance of the Scriptures for as yet saith their Bible they knew not the Scriptures The Israelites erring in heart so continually is ascribed to the want of knowledge in Gods wayes Psal 94 10 11. These alwaies erre in heart and these haue not knowne my Psal 95. wayes Secondly it telleth vs whence otherwise errors proceed from Philosophy vaine fallacie Col. 2. 9. from humane traditions Whence proceed errors Mark 7. 8. from pretended Apostolicall traditions Acts 15. 24. from pretended reuelations of the Spirit a feigned word and forged writings 2. Thes 2. 2. from Satans strange delusions in the Man of sinne and his followers 2. Thes 2. from lying signes and wonders seducing people Reuel 13. 13 14. 2. Thes 2. 9. from doctrines and commandements of men Col. 2. 22. from vnlearnednesse and vnstablenesse of mens owne selues 2. Pet. 2. 16. from false Teachers Act. 20. 29. Iude vers 4. 2. Pet. 2. 2. Tim. 3. 6. from mens giuing heed to Seducers 1. Tim. 4. 1. and such like meanes God giuing men ouer to beleeue lyes because such haue not a loue of the truth 2. Thes 2. 3. Their Bible cleareth Scriptures from being cause of error for it telleth vs that no lie is of the truth 1. Ioh. 2. 21. Now error in diuine matters is a lye the Scriptures are Gods Word inspired by the holy Ghost 2. Tim. 3. 16. Gods Word is truth Ioh. 17. 17. and therefore no error can arise from it and to reason from abuse to hinder the vse is absurd 4. It telleth vs that the holy Scriptures are the Rule of faith and life as before is prooued and therefore cannot be the cause of error 5. It pronounceth the Readers blessed Reu. 3. 3. How can this be if it breed errors in men 6. It telleth vs that by Scripture Christ confuted Satan the false doctrine of Scribes and Pharises the heresie of the Sadduces so did the Apostles the Iewes Act. 17. 2. and 18. 28. Therefore heresies are ouerthrowne by Scripture and get no ground at all from Scripture Contraried by Antiquitie Chrysost Hom. de Lazar. The ignorance of the Scriptures hath bred heresies In Hom. 58. on Iohn The Scriptures doe leade vs to God doe driue away heretickes and doe not suffer vs to goe out of the way Tertullian de resurr telleth vs that heretickes flie the light of the Scriptures Surely hereby its cleere then that this Father did not beleeue that the Scriptures would make heretikes S. Ierome in Esay c. 8. willeth vs in things doubtfull to haue recourse vnto the Scriptures to know the truth otherwise saith he ye shall not haue the light of truth but remaine euer in darknesse of error Therefore Scriptures expell the mist of errors and doe not breed them in the iudgement of Saint Ierome It is witnessed before by Augustine Chrysostome Tertullian Basil Ierome Gregory-Nyssen that the Scriptures are the sound Rule of Faith therefore cannot they be any ground for error Gainesaid by some of their owne Petrus de Aliaco saith The new Testament is the hammer that killeth all heresies the Lanterne that lighteneth vs. Gerson in tract de distinct The sacred Scriptures are the shop wherein is laid vp the royall stampe of spirituall coine if a penny differs from the stampe neuer so little vndoubtedly its counterfeit It is also witnessed before by Gregory Gerson Clemangis Aliacus Durand Mirandula Aquinas Ferus Villa-Vincentius the Canon law and by Bellarmine that the Scriptures are the Rule of Faith how can they then breed error Our Aduersaries haue here no Scripture against vs for indeed the Scripture speaketh for it selfe and not against it selfe But Papists will here say they meane that the Scriptures breed heresies when they are misunderstood or abused or not rightly interpreted Answ If thus they meane in good sooth 1. why blame they the Scriptures when the fault is in men and not in them 2. Why doe not they likewise so accuse all mens writings whose soeuer are not they subiect to be mis-conceiued misunderstood and peruerted 3. Why doe they in this respect feare the Scriptures to breed heresies more in the people then in the Priests Were Arius a Presbyter Macedonius a B. Pelag. a Monke and Eutyches an Abbat they of the Lay-people onely which were the Authors of former heresies or of the Clergie Was Arius was Macedonius was Eutyches Pelagius and other damnable first-broachers of heresies Lay-men No man saith Ierome can frame an heresie but he that is of excellent gifts Gerson and Aeneas Syluius doe De defect viror Eccles 48 Hist Austr 8 52. alleage the same saying of Saint Ierome That there neuer happened any notorious euill in the Church but Priests were the cause thereof Lastly by thus reasoning from the abuse either through ignorance or wilfulnesse in any thing we should disallow euerie thing we should not eate because some gluttonize at meate nor drinke wine nor strong drinke because some thereby become drunke nor weare costly apparell as men of place may because some grow thereby proud nor vse the Arte of Rhetorick because some men abuse it setting their tongues to sale nor Logick for that some peruert it from the right end to iangling Sophistrie Iesus Christ saw how Satan abused Scripture yet he did vse it and exhorted other to search the Scriptures This point of Poperie Christ then knew not nor any of his Apostles VII Proposition That the Scriptures cannot of themselues be knowne to be the Word of God vnlesse the Church doe giue witnesse vnto them that they are so Confuted by their owne Bible 1. IT plainely auoucheth the contrary 1. By teaching that Christs sheepe knew his voice Ioh. 10. 4. 2. That Christ hath promised that such as doe his will shall vnderstand all the doctrine whether it be of God Ioh. 7. 17. 3. That to his Disciples it is giuen to know the Mysteries of the kingdome of heauen Mat. 13. 11. Now the Scriptures inspired of God 2. Tim. 3. 16. are his voice are his doctrine and there are the Mysteries of the Kingdome of heauen euen that great Mysterie opened by the Scriptures Rom. 16. 26. in the Law and Prophets Acts 28. 23. Therefore if Christs sheepe and Disciples can know his Voyce his Doctrine and the Mysteries of the Kingdome of Heauen then they can know the Scriptures to be the Scriptures of God II. It telleth vs by whom and by what we haue this knowledge 1. By the Spirit of God for what things God hath prepared for them that loue him hath he reuealed to vs by his Spirit which we haue receiued that we may know the things that of God are giuen vnto vs 1. Cor. 2. 9. 10 12. Now the Scriptures
God is not euer visibly glorious And this is manifest if we consider the estate thereof in the time of the Arian Emperours the world almost being turned Arian as S. Hierome complaineth Gainesaid by some of themselues Alex. Hales part 3. q. vlt. num 5. Art 2. saith that about the time of Christs passion the true faith remained in none but in the Virgin Marie So Durand Rat. lib. 6. cap. 72. num 25. So Panormit de elect elect potest cap. sanctificasti So Turrecramat de Consecrat d. 2. semel Christus Num. 4. It was a poore visibilitie then farre from glorious conspicuousnesse Many Papists write of a miserable estate of the Church in the time of Antichrist that the Masse shall be celebrated in few places and verie priuately in caues and secret places yea perhaps the Pope shall then professe his faith in secret See for these things Pererius on Daniel pag. 714. Ouandus in Breuiloqu in 4 sent D. 18. prop. 3. pag. 602. Suarez lib. 5. Contr. sect Angli cap. 21. Acosta de Temp. nouis lib. 2. cap. 15. Rhem. on 2 Thess 2. 3. All these speake of the Churches almost vtter exâ—â—pation See more testimonies of Occam Caietan Maluenda Barradius and others in D. Whites Reply to Fisher pag. 77. This they do meane of their Romish Church-Seruice Masse and Religion which I pray God to hasten and make them true Prognosticators of their owne downefall and ruine Amen Amen But that Romish Antichrist hath played his part against the true Church alreadie as is foretold in 2. Thess 2. Reu. 9. and 11. and 12. and 13. which these men cannot or will not see being made drunke with that whores cup of her fornication The Scriptures obiected answered Mat. 5. 14. Yet are the Light of the World a Citie set on a hill cannot be hidden Neither doe men light a Candle and put it vnder a Bushell but on a candlesticke and it giueth light to all that are in the house Answ This place doth not proue the Church visible or vnhidden at all times and to all the successiue perpetuall Church is not expressed nor intended for Christ spake this to and of his Disciples then So Chrysostome taketh it and yet euen they In Psal 38. when they fled from Christ were hidden for a time But here is a threefold similitude by which our Aduersaries go about to proue the euer-glorious visibilitie of the Church 1. From the word light yee are the light of the World What light is there in nature which is alwaies seene The very Sunnes light is not so in the same place for it goeth downe at night and in the day-time it is often beclouded and at some times eclipsed neither doe all see it though it shine forth for the blind man cannot he that is a sleepe or winketh doth not and they that are out of the Horizon cannot So then let the Church be the Sunnes light yet shee therefore cannot bee proued to bee euer gloriously visible to all euery where when the estate of the Church shall bee as is said in Reuel 6. 12. the Sunne being blacke as Sackcloth and in Chap. 9. 2. the Sunne and Aire darkened with the smoke comming out of the bottomlesse pit Epist 80. ad Hâ—sych 48. ad Vincent then saith Saint Augustine the Church shall not appeare 2. From a Citie set vpon an Hill which cannot be hid true totally and finally to all and euery one at all times for so wee say the Church cannot be hid but such as truly seekâ— vnto her and in sinceritie desire to see her shall come to the sight of her But yet a Citie set on an hill is euer hidden to those that want sight to such as be farre off from it to such as be neere to it is it sometime hidden when foggie mists arise and hinder the sight This simily therefore proueth not a perpetuall visibilitie of the Church 3. From the Candle on a candlesticke but the candle often burneth dimly and needeth snuffers to snuffe it Againe it lightneth onely those that haue eyes to see and haue their eyes open to see else it doth not giue them light Thirdly it giueth light onely to them that are in the house to wit in the same roome but not to other in another roome in the same house if a wall bee betweene them Wee see then that these similies doe not expressely prooue a continuall cleare visibilitie of the Church Mat. 18. 17. Tell the Church if he neglect to heare the Church let him be to thee as a Heathen Answ This place the Gagger alleageth before for to prooue that the Church could not erre and now that she is euer gloriously visible yet here are no expresse words nor direct intent of her visibility or hiding 1. Christ here did speake of the Iewish Church then which was not the Catholike but a particular Church visible 2. If applied to vs it cannot bee meant of the Catholike Church for that cannot bee seene with our eyes but beleeued neither if it could be seene can she bee gathered into one place to heare priuate causes as is here meant 3. This therefore being vnderstood of a particular Church as it needes must and that also of the onely Ecclesiasticall Gouerners therein what is this to proue the visibility of the whole Church 4. This telling of the Church may be done by such as be of her when she is in the wildernesse seene to her owne and not to the world euen where onely two or three be gathered together in Christs Name to heare such complaints Vers 19 20. 2. Cor. 4. 3. If our Gospell bee hid it is hid to them that are lost Answ Here is no word of the Church but the wise Gagger taketh the Gospell and the Church for one and the same If so then the place is flat against himselfe for hee saith that the Church cannot be hid but Saint Paul saith the Gospell may to them that are lost blinded by Satan and doe not beleeue and therefore the Church may bee hid if it and the Gospell bee one Esay 2. 2. And it shall come to passe in the last dayes that the Mountaine of the Lords House shall be established in the top of the Mountaines and shall be exalted aboue all the Hilles and all Nations shall flow vnto it Answ They expound this and that of Mich. 4. 7. Dan. 7. 14. of Christs Kingdome which they will haue to be sensibly and corporally visible when it is altogether spirituall This spirituall Kingdome is not a visible Mountaine which the Nations with their bodily eyes flow vnto but with the eyes of their mind But they obiect and say that a Prophecie must bee of things which may bee seene and perceiued by our senses But who euer saw with his corporall sense any such thing as is here foretold Who euer saw men beate their swords into plow-shares their speares into pruning-hookes Vers 4. Whose sense euer saw the
when hee liued on the earth Thirdly if but so what is this to proue that Saints then and so now doe know euery mans estate particularly and what passeth here vpon earth Ioh. 5. 45. There is one that accuseth you euen Moses Answ 1. By Moses is not meant his person but his writings among them as the verses 46. and 47. doe declare Secondly it is absurd to make the Saints in Heauen accusers Papists will haue them Intercessors whose propertie is not to accuse in any sort but to pray for them which pray to them Thirdly Christ saith they trust in Moses Will a Saint in heauen bee so displeased with them and so faile them that trust in him that hee will goe and accuse them vnto God Such then become miserable Patrons Doth their Legend afford any such examples Fourthly Christs saying that they trusted in Moses must not be vnderstood of his person but of his writings For the Iewes did not beleeue in man A curse as is before deliuered they knew to be pronounced against them which trusted in man Reu. 12. 10. The accuser of the brethren is cast downe which accused them before God day and night Answ In the former they make Moses an accuser of some and so in that respect a companion with the diuell heere Is not this a wise Gagger But how can they proue hence that Saints in Heauen know what is done here Because the diuell knowes what euils are here done A goodly reason But doe not wee know that the Diuell is here on earth that hee compasseth the earth to and fro Hee stirres vp Dauid to number the people hee is author of much mischiefe hee must then know many things And will it hence follow therefore that soules which remaine continually in heauen must know what is here done in earth 2. King 6. 12. Elisha telleth what words the King of Syria spake being farre from him So 2. King 5. 26. Elisha saw what passed between Naaman and Gehezi 1. Cor. 12. Saint Paul was rapt vp into the third Heauen Act. 7. Steuen in earth saw Christ in heauen Answ 1. These places tell vs that these things were so Let them bring vs Scriptures which will affirme as much of the soules in heauen heere seeing things in earth and we will beleeue But this these places proue not Secondly these were extraordinarie reuelations and giue no warrant of ordinarie knowledge In such things from extraordinarie acts to ordinarie is no sound arguing For the Prophets did not know all things Elisha knew not the cause of the Shunamites comming 2. King 4. 27. nor Samuel when he went to lesse his house whom God would chuse 1. Sam. 16. 6. Thirdly all these are instances of knowledge in men on earth of things done on earth or of things which being on earth they saw in heauen but not a word what those in heauen saw here vpon earth which is the onely point in question The Gagger quoteth moe places As Mat. 19. 28. But this is nothing to purpose And the place is meant of all appearing before Christ at the last day whom the Apostles shall then see Reu. 2. 26. 1. Here is a promise accomplished in Christ See D. White his last booke p 309. 310 311 312. in answer to this as also to Reu. 3. 12. 1. Cor. 13. 9. 5. 10. not cited by the Gagger Psal 2. in whom the Saints haue this power See Augustine Beda and many other cited by Fulke on this place for this sense Secondly this is to bee vnderstood of the Saints power ouer those out of the Church For here they are to bee ruled with a rodde of iron and to be broken in pieces But the Saints departed Papists make Protectors of others and not breakers of them to shiuers Act. 5. 3. This was an extraordinarie manifestation of Ananias his hypocrisie to Peter If they can proue that God doth reueale mens actions here to Saints in Heauen wee yeeld 1. Sam. 28. 14. Here is the Diuell appearing in Samuelt likenesse what hence this Gagger will gather for Saints knowledge in heauen I know not III. Scriptures obiected that Saints departed doe pray for vs particularly answered Reu. 5. 8. The 24. Elders fell downe before the Lambe hauing euery one of them Harps and golden Vials full of odours which are the prayers of the Saints Answ 1. This was in a vision and traunce and the words allegoricall and therefore cannot bee the ground of Doctrine of faith Secondly here is not meant the Saints departed but these foure and twenty are the type of the whole Church here on earth verse 10. Thirdly these prayers of the Saints which Saints are on earth chap. 8. 3. may be the prayers of the foure and twenty Elders themselues yet called the prayers of the Saints as if they were the prayers of others First for that these represent the whole Church verse 9. which consists of Saints Secondly because a Church or Congregation of people gathered together pray not onely for themselues but for all the Saints of God and so their hearts here being as Vials full of the grace of Prayer as it were odours are esteemed the prayers of all Saints Fourthly Tho. Aquinas Rich. de Sco. Victore Haymo Beda and other doe expound this place of the Church militant 2. Mach. 15. 14. Then Onias answered c. Where he telleth how Ieremy prayed for the people Answ 1. This is an Apocryphal Booke Secondly this speech of Onias touching Ieremies praying was but Iudas his dreame For it is said in verse 11. that he told the souldiers al this as his dreame to encourage them to fight It is weake architecture to build vpon a dreame doctrines of faith Thirdly neither did Iudas much regard the helpe of Ieremies prayer For in the same Chapter hee himselfe did pray verse 21 22 23. but intreated not Ieremy to pray for him but made his suite onely to God Ier. 15. 1. Though Moses and Samuel stood before me c. Answ 1. These words are spoken onely by way of supposition as if God had said If Moses and Samuel were now before mee as they were when they liued on earth praying for these people I should not regard them Is it good reasoning from a suppositiue speech to a reall act indeed Secondly they themselues say that all the Fathers that were before Christ were in Limbus Patrum and so could not know our affaires in particular to pray for vs. Baruch 3. 4. Heare now the prayers of the dead Israelites Answ 1. This booke is Apocryphal Secondly were not these in the place called Limbus Patrum How could they then see all things in the face of God from whose presence they were kept Thirdly heere is mention of the prayers of dead Israelites but not for whom they prayed It is not said they prayed for others on earth They might pray for themselues in Limbo Fourthly by dead Israelites are not here to bee vnderstood such as were departed
the least omission But this obedience is impossible to be performed of any in this life for that there is both flesh and Spirit in euery man which two are such aduersaries one to another so as the best men cannot do the things which they would Galat. 5. 17. This inability through this corruption Saint Paul found and confessed to be euen in himselfe Rom. 7. 15 19. Therefore all our obedience being imperfect our workes cannot bee meritorious and cause of saluation Merit requireth perfection and admits not imperfection for cursed is euery one that keepeth not the words of the Law and fulfilleth them not in workes Deut. 27. 26. So far is man from meriting as a malediction is due if hee doe not obey the commandements Deut. 11. 28. V. It teacheth vs that therefore through this our defect good workes are secluded from being the meritorious cause of our saluation 2. Tim. 1. 9. Ephes 2. 8 9. By grace you are saued through faith not of workes that no man glory Rom. 4. 2. If Abraham was iustified by workes hee had to glory but not with God None are cleane before him Iob 25. 4 5 6. 9. 2 3. Rom. 3. 28. 9. 16. Wee account a man to be iustified by faith without the workes of the Law It is not of the willer nor of the runner but of God that sheweth mercy Psal 48. 8 9. Hee shall not In ours Psal 49. 8 9. giue vnto God his reconciliation and the price of the Redemption of his owne soule Therefore good workes though they euer accompanie those that are saued and iustified in Christ as fruits of a liuely faith yet are not the cause of saluation nor doe iustifie vs before God VI. It teacheth that God therefore to make vs accepted gaue vs his Sonne to become all in all for vs. First hee was made vnder the Law to redeeme vs from vnder it Gal. 4. 4 5. Secondly hee was made a curse for vs to redeeme vs from the curse Gal. 3. 43. Thirdly he was wounded for our iniquities and broken for our sinnes Esai 53. 5. by whose stripes we are healed 2. Pet. 2. 24. Fourthly hee himselfe bare our sinnes in his bodie vpon the tree 1. Pet. 2. 24. making Purgatorie for sinnes Heb. 1. 3. and so for vs was made sinne that we might be made the iustice of God in him 2. Cor. 5. 21. and so liue to iustice 1. Pet. 2. 24. Fiftly hereby hee is become our Wisedome Iustice Sanctification and Redemption 1. Cor. 1. 30. that we may glory in him verse 31. for in him the righteousnesse of God through faith is ours Rom. 10. 3. and 3. 22. and so there can be to vs no condemnation being in Christ Therefore hee is our merit and cause of saluation and not our owne workes VII It teacheth that the Apostle hereupon maketh mans blessednesse to consist not in his owne merits and workes but in reputing iustice without workes and in forgiuing and not imputing sinne Rom. 4. 6 7 8. which forgiuing is our keeping of the Law For as Saint Austin in retract lib. 1. cap. 19. saith All the commandements are holden to be kept when that which is not kept is forgiuen And againe All our righteousnesse saith he stands rather in the remission of our sinnes then in any perfection of iustice De ciu Dei lib. 19. cap. 27. Therefore if mans obedience and keeping be in forgiuenesse and his blessednesse stand therein without workes how is it possible to imagine workes to be the meritorious cause of our saluation VIII It teacheth that for all the graces in vs and for all our obedience to him God onely promiseth to be mercifull as in Deut. 7. 9. Thou shalt know that the Lord thy God hee is a strong and a faithfull God keeping his Couenant and mercy to them that loue him and to them that keepe his precepts So in Exo. 20. 6. Doing mercy to them that loue him and keepe his precepts Here both for the inward loue of God and outward obedience is onely promised mercy Now where mercy needeth there can be no merit Rom. 11. 6. IX It teacheth that the godly 1. acknowledge in all humilitie their sinnes Psal 51. 3 4. Esdr 9. 6. Dan. 9. 1. Secondly they vilifie themselues Iob 9. 2 3 30 31. and 42. 6. 1. Cor. 4. 4. and also those things which seeme to be of worth in them We saith the Prophet are become as one vncleane and all our iustices as the cloth of a menstruous woman Esa 64. 6. Thirdly they confesse that if God be strict in iustice none can bee able In ours Psal 130. 3. to indure Psal 129. 3. If thou shalt obserue iniquities O Lord Lord who shall sustaine it Fourthly hereupon they craue that God would not enter into iudgement with them for that so no flesh should bee iustified in his sight Psal 142. 2. Fiftly they In ours Psal 143. 2. therefore appeale from his iustice to his mercy calling and crying for it as in Psal 129. 3. With thee there is propitiation and Psal 130. 3. Psal 51. 1. saying also in Psal 50. 1. Haue mercy on me O God according to thy great mercy giuing a reason Dan. 9. 18. For not in our iustifications doe wee prostrate prayers before thy face but in thy many commiserations And therefore saith Dauid Psal Psal 119. 118. 76. Let thy mercy be done to comfort mee Hee seeketh comfort in mercy and not in merit Did these holy people of God dreame of merit and of the worth of their workes as the proud condemned Pharise did Luk. 18 or rather did they not as the poore Publican did who cryed Lord haue mercy on me a sinner and therefore went away more iustified then the other The godly know if that they should iustifie themselues their owne mouthes would condemne them Iob 9. 20. And all are by Christ Matth. 6. taught in Prayer to fly to God for mercie and to begge forgiuenesse and not to plead merit X. It teacheth that all whatsoeuer God did to Israel his people all was of his mercy Psal 135. The possession of the Psal 136. Land of Canaan was not merited by Gods people Deut. 9. 5. For saith God Not because of thy iustices and equitie of thy heart doest thou enter in to possesse thy lands I doe it not for your sake be it knowne vnto you saith the Lord but for my holy name So in Ezech. 36. 22 32. Now if the type of heauen could not bee merited by either inward grace or outward workes may we think that heauen may be merited when Saint Paul tels vs that it is the gift of God Rom. 6. 23 Gift is free and not purchased XI It teacheth that the passions of this time are not condigne to the glory to come Rom. 8. 18. If persecution and suffering Martyrdome cannot merit condignely the glory in heauen What may wee thinke of other workes whatsoeuer For neither our goods nor goodnesses is
or in any thing is to be found in him Fiftly Saint Paul speakes of his abilitie of doing all things through Christ strengthening him thereto But where is it written that Christ strengtheneth any man perfectly to fulfill the whole Law Saint Paul found not this in him as before is noted out of Rom. 7. Nor Saint Peter when hee forswore his Master and when hee after dissembled and was openly and worthily rebuked by S. Paul Gal. 2. Nor Saint Iohn when hee fell downe and would haue worshipped an Angell Reuel 19. Luk. 1. 5 6. And they were both righteous before God walking in all the commandements and ordinances of the Lord blamelesse Answ 1. That they were righteous we acknowledge it and also before God by the Text it is cleere and so are all the regenerate at this day But how by workes Not so before God The Apostle teacheth the contrary Rom. 4. 2. and the Psalmist Psal 143. 2. But by faith in Christ Rom. 4. 3 9. Phil. 3. 9. who was made sinne for vs that wee might be made the righteousnesse of God in him 2. Cor. 5. 21. By which righteousnesse we are righteous before God and yet for all this not without sinne in our selues For was not Iohn and Iames the Apostles righteous yet both acknowledge themselues to haue sinne 1. Ioh. 1. 8 10. Iam. 3. 2. Secondly Walking in all the commandements is here added as the fruit of their righteousnesse the manifest signe thereof and declaration of thankefulnesse as in Gen. 17. and not as the cause of it For by the workes of the Law shall none be iustified before God Rom. 3. 20. Thirdly a man may walke faintly he may halt yea now and then slip and yet be in the right way Fourthly by saying in all it noteth not perfection in obedience as may appeare in Dauid though of him it be said Act. 13. 22. that he should performe all Gods will yet hee fell fearefully sometime but it set out their soundnesse of heart hauing respect to all the commandements and ordinances of God as Dauid speaketh Psal 119. 6 117. for they did not seuer the commandements in their practice but made conscience of one as well as of another Fifthly whereas it is said without blame or blamelesse This is to bee vnderstood so before men but not before God For first God strucke him dumbe for his vnbeliefe verse 20. Secondly his very office as hee was a Priest conuinceth him of sinne for the Priest sacrificed as well for himselfe as for the people Heb. 5. 3. So that he was not blamelesse before God Luk. 11. 27. Blessed are they that heare the Word of God and keepe it Answ 1. This place proueth not the point in question for wee acknowledge that the regenerate doe keepe Gods Word But how Not fully and perfectly which is the question and is not hence proued Secondly imperfect obedience through Christ is accepted and such a one may be blessed Thirdly who knoweth not what imperfections are in hearing And the same is much more in keeping Fourthly hearing and keeping are a declaration of such as bee blessed and not the cause of their blessednesse The like answer may be made to Ioh. 13. 17. 14. 23. Matth. 12. 50. Luk. 11. 2. Thy will be done as in Heauen so in Earth Answ 1. This proueth not what men here on earth doe but what they should pray for and begge of God to doe Secondly wee are not here taught to begge any thing impossible neither for the word as hath not relation to the degree of absolute perfection of obedience in heauen but to the manner of doing Gods will there willingly ioyfully faithfully and constantly which we desire to imitate here according to the measure of grace which we receiued of God The Gagger calleth this Petition a demand as if in Prayer wee were not beggers but claimers of our dues and rights from God see the proud spirit of an Antichrist 1. Ioh. 5. 3. This is the loue of God that we keepe his commandements and his commandements are not grieuous Answ 1. Wee acknowledge that the loue of God neither is nor can bee without obedience to the commandements for true loue forceth thereto obedience is the true fruit of loue and the true signe thereof So as these words This is the loue of God may be thus expounded This is the true signe of the loue of God that wee keepe his commandements Secondly this doth not proue the point for wee acknowledge also the keeping of Gods commandements but wee deny the perfect keeping fully according to the rigour and strictnesse of the Law which this place speakes not of Thirdly touching the praise of them as not grieuous or heauy This is to be vnderstood not so in respect of the commandements themselues for they are a heauy yoake according to these places Act. 15. 10. Rom. 8. 3. and 7. 14. but in respect of such as be in Christ to whom the commandements are not heauy nor grieuous First for that Christ helpeth them with his grace and holy Spirit to keepe them Secondly because they truely loue God and so are willing to vndergoe any thing for Christ and so to a willing minde nothing is grieuous Thirdly for that they haue a spirituall delight in Gods commandements feeling the peace of a good conscience in well doing Fourthly for that such men doe not in their minde esteeme them heauy or grieuous Lastly they may be said not to bee heauy and grieuous respectiuely to that which they were before Christ through the manifest incumbrances vnder Moses but now Christ hath fulfilled them for vs he hath borne the burthen remoued the curse made vs by faith fulfillers of them and thus are they not heauy nor grieuous but yet it proueth not that any man can keepe the commandements The Gagger hath collected many other places onely he citeth them but vrgeth them not Ezek. 36. 27. Walke in my Statutes and keepe my iudgements and doe them Answ Here is no mention of either the manner or measure which was the thing he should haue proued else we grant all The like answer is to Ecclus 15. 15. which booke is not Canonical Matth. 11. 30. My yoake is easie and burthen is light Answ 1. Here is no mention of commandements Secondly Christs yoake is not the Law but the doctrine of the Gospell and his owne discipline Thirdly whatsoeuer is meant by yoake and burthen the same being Christs to the regenerate it is easie and light by the former reasons alledged to the place of 1. Ioh. 5. 3. Matth. 19. 17. If thou wilt enter into life keepe the commandements Answ 1. This place imposeth a duty but proueth not performance for it is one thing for God to command and another thing for man to perform his commandement Secondly Christ speakes not here thus to this yong man as imploying abilitie in him to keepe the commandements but to answer to the pride of his heart to conuict him