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A briefe examination; of a certaine pamphlet lately printed in Scotland, and intituled: Ladensium autocatacrisis, &c.
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judgement in those points Or if those Points bee comprehended in the Articles and not condemned belike they are approved there But if the Articles doe condemne Arminianisme all men promoted in the Church subscribe to the Articles They professe fully and heartily to assent to the Doctrine there set downe which Profession is as valid as an oath and an * Heb. 6.16 Oath for confirmation is an end of all strife So that to affirme his Grace keepes a constant course in promoting Arminianisme as a Sect offensive to this Church is but a meere calumny Their subscription being as great and apparant a Purgation of any their adherence to heterodox Opinions as they can possibly exhibit or hee require of them And should he require more he could not justifie it 15. That which brought up Arminianisme among you was you say * P. 11. a gentle ayre from Court which were it true as it is undoubtedly false yet it leaves no reall Aspersion upon those Opinions The Court does not alwayes cherish the evill seeds it is the voice of Schismaticks sometimes a Optat. l. 1. Aug. Ep. 48. Quid Episcopis cum palatio The Arrians and Donatists did often complaine they were borne downe by favour at Court and so do you now and so did alwayes all unquiet Spirits when they could not have there what themselves desired * P. 11. Dr. Wederburne you tell us was made Bishop of Dunblane and that Bishop is alwayes Deane of the Chappell Royall and a society of twenty foure Chaplaines was erected the fittest that could be found in the whole Kingdome to preach to the State the Deanes Arminian Tenets Where it may be all the offence is that your selfe was none of the number 16. Passing over into Ireland you question there * P. 15. P. 21. Who holds downe the head of that Orthodoxe Primate Which complaint after three or foure pages you resume againe thus What fray makes that worthy Primate Vsher to foretell oft to his friends his expectation to be sent over sea to die a Pedant teaching boyes for his bread by the persecution of this faction Where this strange expression from your pen Orthodoxe Primate made me almost forget the maine of your complaint For say in good earnest is Episcopacie a wicked and Antichristian calling So you teach sometimes And sure if a simple Bishop be a limb of Antichrist a Primate must be a very principall member how then Orthodoxe primate Or why care you who holds downe his head Were it in your power would you advance it You that have howted all Ecclesiasticall Dignities quite out of your Countrey You tell us plainly that a totall ejection of the Bishops * Postscrip p. 28. would much increase the joy and prosperity of all the three dominions We have just reason to think then that if this Orthodoxe Primate were in your Power you would divide betwixt his Orthodoxie and his Primacie by such a kind of distinction as that was of old b Platin. in vit Ioan. 24. Gibellinorum bona Guelfa the Man might be Orthodoxe but the Primacie with what belongs to it his Rents and Revenues would be found all Antichristian so that he must be content indeed to die a Pedant teaching boyes for his bread But to the maine of your Complaint take his Answer which upon sight of this passage in your booke he made with his owne mouth This is notoriously false I never said any such thing I never thought it and I am in my particular beholding to my Lord of Canterbury I had the happinesse to be by when my Lord Primate spake this 17. Your aptnesse to misconstrue even the best actions appeares by the censure you put upon His Majesties Declaration before the Articles You make it but a crafty trick in his Grace then Bishop of London by the Duke his Patron you say to perswade that course of silence purposely to give * Their crafty leader seeing the sâ—…t of opposition and sinding it meet a little to hold in c. p. 19. advantage to the Arminians It were a happy thing if in all emergent controversies men would carrie themselves with that temper and prudence as that no such declarations might be needfull But when the fire of contention begins to burne and endanger the peace of Church and State it is then time for Kings who are nutritii Ecclesiae to interpose their power and suppresse the flame What our gracious Soveraigne did was done more majorum after the example of all godly Princes In the time of Theodosius the elder every mans tongue ran upon the Trinity nothing could be heard but perpetuall wrangling about those high mysteries whereupon that pious Prince forbad all disputing thereabout c Sozom. l. 7. c. 6. latâ lege paenâ constitutâ Had you lived then you would have said This was but the tricke of some Prelate to give advantage to the Sabellians Photinians Arrians and the like In these very questions blessed King Iames both counselled and approved a pacificatory edict devised and published in Holland to make peace there which indeed was variously carped at But God forbid that at such exigences for the misprision of some disaffected spirits Kings and Princes should lay by their care whose office it is to suppresse Schisme and Faction in Church as well as theft homicide or like crimes in State as d Ep. 50. cont Crescon 3. c. â—1 S. Austin tels us But what advantage did the Arminians make of this edict I pray Yes * P. 23. Many Doctors you say in both Universities and over all the Land boldly gave out their minde to all they met with for the advancement of the new way Boldly gave out their minde But did they print as boldly I am sure some of the contrary part as boldly gave out their mindes otherwise your intelligence had not been so good And what know you but that many books like to be offensive in this kinde were and are suppressed by my Lord of Canterburies care I am sure you can keepe no tale of them no more than Diagoras his friend could of those that were drowned quia nusquam picti sunt for they appeare not 18. Needs will you make the world believe in this quarrell of Arminianisme my Lord of Canterburies Predecessour Archbishop Abbot was so farre * P. 21. wrought out of grace with the King that he remained some yeares before his death well neare confined to his house at Lambeth and that for the same cause is caged up in the Tower that great and learned Bishop of Lincolne Where touching the first in good time said you well neare confined For certainly no other confinement lay upon him at Lambeth some yeares before his death but by that which serves an arrest upon all the sonnes of men age and infirmity And for the second that Arminianisme is any way concerned in my Lord of Lincolnes affaire is more than I ever understood
them slip the better A long scheme of interrogations you put us here who did this and who did that To all which considering I say you bring no proofe in reason and equity you can expect no other returne from us then a plaine negation Quintilian Decl. 12. Sat erit verbo negare quod verbo ponitur remove hanc spem eludendae mendacio civitatis Now then I tell you point by point It is not He that hath kept the King at a distance from your countrey these many yeares Not he that hinders Parliaments nor that breaks up Parliaments It is not by his connivence that the idolatrous Chappels of both the Queenes are so gorgeous and so much frequented It is not by his tolerance that Masse-Priests are so much multiplied in City and Countrey Hee sets up no Cloysters for Monks and Nuns No Houses for open Masse in any City of the Kings Dominions Hee holds no correspondence with the Pope Hee sends no Agents to Rome Entertaines not his Holinesse Nuncios here in State Hee hindred not our Alliance with the Swedes French for the relief of Germany He withheld not from the poore Prince the King of Bohemiah to his dying day all considerable helpe from Brittaine Prague was lost and the Palatinate surprised while hee was yet but a private Master of a Colledge in Oxford And what could he doe withall Hee sent not those young Princes into the Field the other yeare so poorely provided that one silly Commander beat them both Hee moved not that innocent Prince to such strange Counsell as now the World speakes of Hee betrayed neither his purpose nor his Person to the French King Hee is not the prime Authour of the Scottish broyles All this you put upon him all this wee deny Whereof some things are false in themselves All in regard of him And you have not onely trusted report too farre which is ever q Tertul. Ap. Nomen incerti detrahons adiiciens demutans de veritate But withall yeelded your selfe too much to that naughty disposition which they call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a rejoycing in another mans evill for wee may reasonably thinke what ever of all this bee found false you could wish it were true Otherwise it is strange a man should rake together all the disasters and mischiefs that have been done at home and abroad these many yeares and lay them all upon Him but not give him the least share in any good action What good my L. of Canterbury hath done in the civill state what in the Church what in Citie and Countrey what in the University there will be a time to remember And though in this distempered state of things seu benè seu malè facta juxtà premunt good and bad actions beare a like construction with many men at least yet the insuperable strength of vertue and innocencie by Gods Blessing will overcome at last Matth. 11.19 and wisdome be Iustified of her children In the meane while it shall be sufficient to say to you here that of S. r Cont Ruff. Hierome Non est necesse ut in tractatihus ecclesiasticis rem tribunalem ventilemus It is no way requisite that disputing about points of religion we should mingle therewith civill or criminall accusations 8 Comming up to your Work you tell us you will prove these men against whom you informe to be guilty of grosse Arminianisme plaine Popery and of setting up barbarous Tyranny Tot Calones quot Milites every soldier must have his Cullion every substantive an Epithet put to it to carry along the Luggage of your Notion not Popery onely but plaine Popery not Arminianisme onely but grosse Arminianisme nor Tyranny onely but setting up of barbarous Tyranny yet lest we should be forgetfull or inobservant of this your great undertaking you tell it us over againe and againe and againe foure times before you can end And with it shut up this your zealous Preface But these your vehement exaggerations your long and sweet Rhetorications 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with which you would charme our Nobles not to stirre a weapon against you in so innocent a Cause I willingly permitt you Onely two things I must expostulate with you 9 First that in case you faile in this great businesse you are content you say to be censured of * Jf J faile in my faire undertaking let me be condemned of temerity and no houre of your leisure c. Temeritie and will never desire men to imploy their leasure any more in hearing your Complaints This indeed would be a great deale of Charity on our parts for it was written of old An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth Make good your undertaking prove these men guilty of Idolatry Heresie of betraying the King into the Bondage of Popery the subject into a Condition of slavery and their goods their Bodies their Lives will be too little satisfaction nay what extreame hazards many have runne already without any forme of Iustice upon your bare suggestions is sufficiently knowne now you demand Iustice upon my Lo. of Canterbury where in Case you faile of your proofe shall it bee sufficient for you to suffer in point of reputation and to bee Condemned of Temerity such a Lucifuga as your selfe an Exploratour of other mens discourses whose onely Artifice it is benè dicta seciùs interpretari I except against your iniquitie in this 10. The other thing is you complaine of the obstinate silence of the English Divines it is most prodigious you say and one of the Wonders of the World how at this Time they can be so dumbe You have scored downe in your Index here about twenty English Divines that have written within these few yeares against Papists and Schismatiques as the necessities of the Church did require God be thanked there was never greater plenty of men able and willing to encounter our adversaries on the right hand or on the left And do you finde so great a solitude of English Divines that you are faine to supply your selfe with Burton Bastwick Prinne Layton Lilborne of whom Burton only is the Divine Prin a Lawyer Bastwick Layton Physitians Lilborne a Tradesman Are these your English Divines do you propound these for imitable Examples to the Clergie of this Kingdome Depuduit profugúsque pudor sua signa reliquit You call us to the Example of those Marian Dayes Times of hottest Persecution as if now were the Time for faithfull Witnesses to stand up in defence of true Religion That is to oppose those Lawes now by which Popery was then cast out to condemne that Liturgie and those Ceremonies as superstitious now which were then ordained to cut off superstition and the retaining of which our very a Ista autem multaque alia ex moribus caeremoniis antiquis politicorum suasu contra hujus novi cleri voluntatem Regina retinuit c. Et certe fecit plurimum ad stabilitatem firmitatemque