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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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protestatio_fw-la iustè_fw-la ac_fw-la simul_fw-la &_o appellatio_fw-la ad_fw-la futurum_fw-la aliud_fw-la concilium_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la baro_n p._n 369._o expunctis_fw-la tamen_fw-la ijs_fw-la quae_fw-la diverso_fw-la charactere_fw-la notantur_fw-la 2._o neither_o be_v there_o cause_n to_o fear_v that_o a_o council_n assist_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o define_n will_v contradict_v either_o scripture_n or_o the_o ibidem_fw-la the_o exit_fw-la hoc_fw-la etiam_fw-la elici_fw-la potest_fw-la fidem_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_fw-la nulla_fw-la synodo_fw-la universali_fw-la retractari_fw-la posse_fw-la cutan_n conc._n li._n 2._o c._n 4._o dicit_fw-la augusti●us_n li._n 1._o con_v donatistas_n volens_fw-la stabili_fw-la fundamento_fw-la ex_fw-la de●isione_n universalis_fw-la concilij_fw-la fidem_fw-la probare_fw-la jam_fw-la ne_fw-la videar_fw-la ●umanis_fw-la argumentis_fw-la id_fw-la agere_fw-la etc._n etc._n idem_fw-la c._n 5._o vid●s_fw-la quanta_fw-la 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thing_n which_o may_v be_v find_v out_o by_o trial_n or_o experiment_n but_o in_o matter_n reveal_v and_o of_o faith_n §._o vi_o clemangis_n profess_v to_o reverence_v the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n and_o only_o to_o propose_v some_o doubt_n for_o his_o instruction_n in_o some_o thing_n touch_v they_o nicolaus_n de_fw-fr clemangis_n in_o disputatione_n cum_fw-la scholastico_fw-la parisiensi_fw-la quaedam_fw-la etiam_fw-la tradit_fw-la quae_fw-la cum_fw-la doctrina_fw-la pontificiorum_fw-la de_fw-la conciliorum_fw-la infallilibilitate_fw-la manifestè_fw-la pugnant_fw-la baro_n p._n 370._o dicit_fw-la concilium_fw-la generale_fw-mi errare_fw-la posse_fw-la in_o controversijs_fw-la morum_fw-la baro_n ibidem_fw-la clemangis_n his_o work_n i●_n trid._n i●_n index_n libr._n prohibit_v conc._n trid._n forbid_v and_o his_o friend_n t●_n who_o he_o direct_v it_o perceave_v i●_n come_v from_o 1576._o from_o quanquam_fw-la deum_fw-la ac_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la testari_fw-la liceat_fw-la nullatenus_fw-la stomachato_n animo_fw-la illa_fw-la fuisse_fw-la scripta_fw-la quod_fw-la miror_fw-la tibi_fw-la visum_fw-la esse_fw-la quia_fw-la tamen_fw-la undecun_fw-la que_fw-la hoc_fw-la evenerit_fw-la ita_fw-la tibi_fw-la visum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la tuus_fw-la quantum_fw-la fas_fw-la fuerit_fw-la voluntati_fw-la ac_fw-la petitioni_fw-la morem_fw-la geram_fw-la dulciora_fw-la ac_fw-la sedatiora_fw-la enitar_fw-la clemang_n ad_fw-la scholast_n paris_n p_o 599._o edit_n parisiensi_fw-la anno_fw-la 1576._o discontent_n be_v force_v as_o appear_v by_o his_o own_o epistle_n 600._o epistle_n opressus_fw-la namque_fw-la ut_fw-la nosti_fw-la ante_fw-la aliquot_fw-la annos_fw-la aemulolorum_fw-la insultatione_n i_o tunc_fw-la gravissimè_fw-la persequentium_fw-la ex_fw-la urbe_fw-la illa_fw-la fui_fw-la excedere_fw-la compulsus_fw-la latebrasque_fw-la à_fw-la fancy_n tempestatis_fw-la contra_fw-la i_o iniustè_fw-fr admodum_fw-la illic_fw-la saevientis_fw-la alibi_fw-la quaerere_fw-la p._n 600._o latebras_fw-la quaerere_fw-la to_o play_v least●_n sight_n he_o write_v bitter_o against_o the_o clergy_n belike_o they_o make_v he_o fly_v touch_v counsel_n he_o do_v not_o contradict_v their_o authority_n howsoever_o he_o mistake_v the_o manner_n of_o defend_v it_o but_o only_o write_v unto_o a_o friend_n to_o be_v inform_v better_a in_o it_o protest_v both_o to_o honour_v they_o and_o to_o be_v ready_a to_o amend_v what_o in_o his_o writing_n shall_v be_v think_v amiss_o hear_v some_o of_o his_o own_o word_n 587._o word_n idem_fw-la pa._n 587._o very_o i_o reverentlie_o receive_v and_o faithful_o embrace_v all_o counsel_n as_o well_o such_o as_o long_o ago_o have_v be_v du_o celebrate_v as_o also_o those_o which_o be_v celebrate_v now_o adays_o and_o god_n forbid_v that_o i_o shall_v think_v or_o speak_v any_o sinister_a thing_n of_o they_o neither_o shall_v i_o therefore_o be_v calumniate_v as_o less_o sincere_o esteem_v they_o in_o that_o for_o the_o instruction_n of_o my_o ignorance_n i_o seek_v to_o know_v and_o desire_v to_o have_v declare_v unto_o i_o some_o thing_n that_o i_o may_v not_o only_o think_v of_o they_o well_o and_o faithful_o but_o also_o according_a to_o the_o capacity_n of_o my_o little_a wit_n true_o and_o wise_o speak_v of_o they_o and_o a_o little_a after_o 588._o after_o clemang_n pa._n 588._o i_o desire_v to_o be_v teach_v by_o thou_o whether_o thou_o think_v it_o must_v be_v believe_v as_o a_o catholic_a verity_n that_o in_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v of_o fact_n or_o of_o manner_n or_o of_o judgment_n a_o general_a council_n can_v never_o be_v deceive_v as_o well_o as_o it_o be_v faithful_o believe_v that_o it_o can_v err_v in_o faith_n and_o in_o the_o end_n ibidem_fw-la end_n idem_fw-la pa._n 598._o alioquin_fw-la temerarium_fw-la esset_fw-la minus_fw-la intellecta_fw-la velle_fw-la à_fw-la sapientoribus_fw-la discere_fw-la quamuis_fw-la etiam_fw-la certè_fw-la paratus_fw-la sim_fw-la si_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la i_o movent_fw-la dubia_fw-la explicando_fw-la aliquid_fw-la in_o radice_fw-la veritatis_fw-la minus_fw-la fundatum_fw-la aut_fw-la alicuius_fw-la fortasse_fw-la scandadali_fw-la illatiwm_fw-la nimis_fw-la astruere_fw-la viderer_fw-la aut_fw-la fideli_fw-la admonitu_fw-la illud_fw-la eradere_fw-la aut_fw-la ad_fw-la lineam_fw-la rectitudinis_fw-la lima_fw-la exactiori_fw-la emendare_fw-la ibidem_fw-la i_o intend_v as_o i_o have_v oft_o already_o say_v neither_o be_o i_o loath_a to_o repeat_v it_o in_o these_o or_o other_o writing_n to_o affirm_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o may_v be_v altogether_o agreeable_a to_o the_o catholic_a integrity_n but_o in_o case_n i_o have_v propose_v not_o affirm_v but_o doubt_v or_o argue_v any_o thing_n less_o certain_a or_o true_a whereby_o i_o may_v be_v the_o more_o full_o inform_v of_o the_o certainty_n i_o think_v that_o shall_v not_o be_v think_v rashness_n in_o i_o and_o the_o rest_n which_o you_o find_v cite_v in_o the_o addition_n dicit_fw-la christi_fw-la assistentiam_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la solos_fw-la sanctos_fw-la &_o spirituales_fw-la pertinere_fw-la baro_n p._n 370._o non_fw-fr obscure_a innuit_fw-la eam_fw-la persuasionem_fw-la seu_fw-la fiduciam_fw-la de_fw-la conciliorum_fw-la infallibilitate_fw-la qua_fw-la multi_fw-la tumescunt_fw-la esse_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la admodum_fw-la perniciosam_fw-la idem_fw-la p._n 371._o and_o whereas_o he_o propose_v by_o way_n of_o doubt_n that_o holy_a man_n only_o be_v to_o be_v hear_v speak_v out_o of_o a_o council_n he_o seem_v not_o to_o have_v remember_v what_o our_o b._n saviour_n say_v of_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n teach_v out_o of_o moses_n chair_n quae_fw-la dicunt_fw-la facite_fw-la imitate_v not_o their_o work_n but_o practice_n what_o they_o teach_v that_o such_o as_o do_v celebrate_v a_o council_n shall_v not_o nimis_fw-la inniti_fw-la to_o much_o insist_v or_o presume_v on_o this_o that_o they_o be_v a_o general_a council_n as_o if_o therefore_o they_o may_v free_o do_v quaecunque_fw-la libuerit_fw-la do_v not_o make_v against_o we_o it_o deny_v not_o to_o a_o council_n infallibility_n as_o he_o deny_v it_o not_o to_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n who_o say_v they_o shall_v not_o rely_v to_o much_o thereupon_o as_o if_o therefore_o they_o may_v do_v what_o they_o list_v moreover_o his_o speech_n be_v qualify_v by_o himself_o if_o you_o mark_v it_o non_fw-la debent_fw-la ut_fw-la videtur_fw-la and_o 597._o and_o clemang_n pa._n 597._o non_fw-la utile_fw-la crediderim_fw-la illos_fw-la inniti_fw-la i_o think_v they_o shall_v not_o i_o shall_v not_o esteem_v it_o profitable_a for_o they_o to_o rely_v etc._n etc._n §_o vii_o 1._o canus_n defend_v the_o infallibility_n of_o approve_a counsel_n 2._o his_o opinion_n of_o other_o which_o be_v not_o
intellecta_fw-la vel_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la s._n aug_n epist_n 111._o other_o book_n have_v not_o in_o every_o part_n that_o infallibility_n other_o writer_n have_v not_o such_o ample_a assistance_n as_o the_o sacred_a writer_n have_v si_fw-it divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la earum_fw-la sc_fw-la quae_fw-la canonicae_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la nominantur_fw-la perspicua_fw-la firmatur_fw-la authoritate_fw-la sine_fw-la ullae_fw-la dubitatione_n credendum_fw-la est_fw-la alijs_fw-la verò_fw-la testibus_fw-la vel_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la quibus_fw-la aliquid_fw-la credendum_fw-la esse_fw-la suadetur_fw-la tibi_fw-la credere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la credere_fw-la liceat_fw-la quantum_fw-la ea_fw-la momenti_fw-la ad_fw-la faciendam_fw-la fidem_fw-la vel_fw-la habere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la habere_fw-la perpenderis_fw-la baro_n p._n 336._o ex_fw-la aug._n epist_n 112._o 2._o the_o second_o exception_n be_v that_o s._n augustine_n in_o a_o other_o place_n epist_n 112._o speak_v not_o 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