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pope_n primacy_n the_o mass_n itself_o and_o be_v a_o catholic_a priest_n he_o say_v mass_n even_o to_o his_o die_a day_n and_o observe_v the_o vow_n of_o priestly_a chastity_n in_o the_o doctrine_n concern_v freewill_n predestination_n inform_v faith_n the_o cause_n of_o justification_n and_o merit_n of_o good_a work_n image_n he_o agree_v with_o catholic_n 82_o to_o the_o aforesaid_a learned_a protestant_n i_o may_v add_v two_o famous_a man_n the_o one_o a_o englishman_n the_o other_o a_o stranger_n i_o mean_v d._n andrews_n pretend_v bishop_n of_o winchester_n and_o hugo_n grotius_n a_o man_n of_o great_a estimation_n among_o protestant_n 83_o as_o for_o d._n andrew_n in_o his_o stricturae_fw-la or_o a_o brief_a answer_n to_o the_o 18._o chapter_n of_o the_o first_o book_n of_o cardinal_n perron_n reply_n etc._n etc._n n._n 1._o he_o disclame_v from_o the_o opinion_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la and_o also_o say_v plain_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o reserve_v the_o sacrament_n be_v 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wine_n can_v not_o be_v so_o long_o conserve_v in_o hot_a country_n nor_o deliver_v to_o so_o many_o in_o different_a vessel_n to_o be_v keep_v at_o home_n or_o carry_v up_o and_o down_o in_o journey_n etc._n etc._n n._n 9_o he_o say_v for_o offer_v and_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a there_o be_v little_a to_o be_v say_v against_o it_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o it_o be_v ancient_a n._n 10.11_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o fast_a of_o lent_n and_o that_o protestant_n fast_v not_o on_o christmas_n day_n though_o it_o fall_v upon_o a_o friday_n or_o a_o saturday_n n._n 12._o he_o profess_v the_o restraint_n of_o priest_n from_o marry_v not_o to_o be_v against_o either_o jus_fw-la naturale_fw-la or_o divinum_fw-la from_o which_o grant_v it_o follow_v that_o the_o argument_n which_o protestant_n be_v wont_a to_o allege_v out_o of_o scripture_n or_o natural_a reason_n to_o prove_v the_o unlawfulness_n of_o such_o restraint_n be_v of_o no_o force_n for_o if_o they_o be_v of_o force_n it_o shall_v be_v against_o jus_fw-la naturale_fw-la or_o divinum_fw-la and_o no_o positive_a law_n can_v ordain_v it_o n._n 13._o he_o grant_v that_o vow_n of_o a_o single_a life_n make_v orderly_o and_o due_o be_v to_o be_v keep_v and_o can_v be_v break_v without_o offence_n n._n 14._o he_o do_v not_o disallow_v the_o mingle_n of_o water_n with_o wine_n in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o also_o n._n 17._o he_o do_v not_o reprove_v in_o the_o ceremony_n of_o baptism_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o the_o consecration_n or_o hallow_v of_o the_o water_n and_o confess_v that_o crism_n indeed_o be_v very_o ancient_a n._n 18._o he_o confess_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n via_fw-la ordinariâ_fw-la n._n 20._o he_o confess_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n have_v the_o five_o order_n of_o ostiarius_n lector_fw-la exorcist_n acolythus_n subdeacon_n which_o we_o hold_v and_o keep_v but_o protestant_n reject_v n._n 20._o he_o say_v the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v hold_v that_o there_o be_v a_o distinction_n between_o bishop_n and_o priest_n and_o that_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la divino_fw-la n._n 23._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o protestant_a church_n of_o england_n hold_v good_a work_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o that_o faith_n without_o they_o save_v not_o that_o no_o man_n be_v predestinate_a to_o do_v evil_a nor_o that_o it_o be_v safe_a for_o any_o man_n peremptory_o to_o presume_v himself_o predestinate_a from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o man_n be_v not_o justify_v by_o a_o assure_a and_o certain_a beleif_n that_o they_o be_v just_a and_o predestinate_a for_o with_o such_o a_o faith_n it_o can_v not_o be_v presumption_n but_o certainty_n to_o believe_v himself_o predestinate_a n._n 25._o he_o grant_v that_o in_o time_n of_o persecution_n and_o after_o in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n so_o long_o as_o the_o christian_n dwell_v mingle_v with_o the_o heathen_a they_o show_v plain_o by_o make_v and_o use_v the_o cross_n that_o they_o be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o that_o sign_n wherewith_o the_o heathen_a man_n do_v use_v to_o deride_v they_o what_o then_o shall_v we_o say_v of_o protestant_n who_o deride_v we_o catholic_n for_o not_o be_v ashamed_a of_o that_o sign_n wherewith_o the_o heathen_a man_n do_v use_v to_o deride_v christian_n and_o much_o more_o what_o shall_v we_o say_v of_o those_o who_o sacrilegious_o abuse_v and_o break_v down_o that_o holy_a sign_n ibidem_fw-la he_o grant_v that_o the_o primitive_a christian_n in_o time_n of_o persecution_n use_v light_n and_o incense_n though_o voluntary_o he_o feign_v to_o himself_o the_o reason_n for_o which_o they_o use_v they_o and_o after_o when_o peace_n come_v christian_n retain_v both_o the_o light_n and_o the_o incense_n to_o show_v themselves_o to_o be_v the_o son_n and_o successor_n of_o those_o ancient_a christian_n which_o in_o former_a time_n have_v use_v they_o show_v their_o communion_n in_o the_o former_a faith_n by_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o former_a usage_n what_o then_o shall_v we_o say_v of_o protestant_n who_o in_o we_o deride_v those_o thing_n as_o superstitious_a but_o that_o they_o show_v themselves_o not_o to_o be_v the_o son_n and_o successor_n of_o those_o ancient_a christian_n nor_o to_o have_v communion_n of_o that_o former_a faith_n in_o the_o brief_a of_o the_o 26._o head_n he_o say_v the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v feast_n in_o memory_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o martyr_n with_o other_o point_n which_o i_o omit_v in_o his_o sermon_n upon_o the_o 20._o of_o st._n john_n n._n 23._o he_o say_v confession_n to_o a_o priest_n be_v necessary_a urge_v that_o of_o st._n augustine_n hom_n 49._o de_fw-la 50._o homil_n nemo_fw-la tibi_fw-la dicat_fw-la occultè_fw-la ago_o paenitentiam_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la ago_o ergo_fw-la sine_fw-la causa_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la solveritis_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la soluta_fw-la erunt_fw-la in_o coelo_fw-la ergo_fw-la sine_fw-la causa_fw-la clave_n datae_fw-la sunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dei_fw-la 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schismate_fw-la contra_fw-la
m._n perkins_n in_o his_o work_n print_v 1605._o fol._n 585._o o._n post_o med_n affirm_v that_o parent_n believe_v for_o themselves_o and_o their_o child_n and_o that_o the_o child_n by_o the_o parent_n faith_n have_v title_n to_o the_o covenant_n and_o fol._n 585._o b._n initio_fw-la it_o be_v say_v that_o infant_n be_v god_n child_n not_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o birth_n but_o by_o mean_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n be_v for_o that_o cause_n to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o therefore_o the_o child_n of_o jew_n turk_n and_o such_o like_a profess_a infidel_n 150._o infidel_n in_o the_o proposition_n and_o principle_n etc._n etc._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la sect_n 8._o pag._n 179._o and_o m._n whitaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 8._o pag._n 679._o fine_a say_v infidelium_fw-la liberos_fw-la ut_fw-la turcarum_fw-la judaeorum_fw-la ethnicorum_fw-la calvinus_n meritò_fw-la &_o verè_fw-la negate_fw-la esse_fw-la baptizandos_fw-la and_o the_o like_a be_v teach_v by_o kimedoncius_n in_o his_o redemption_n of_o mankind_n l._n 2._o cap._n 15._o pag._n 167._o fine_a and_o see_v m._n d._n some_o in_o his_o defence_n against_o penry_n and_o resutation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 150._o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v as_o not_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o covenant_n by_o reason_n that_o their_o parent_n do_v not_o believe_v all_o this_o yet_o notwithstanding_o they_o profess_v baptism_n profess_v teach_v by_o m._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 623._o ante_fw-la med_n by_o m._n hooker_n in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n l._n 3._o sect_n 1._o pag._n 131._o by_o d._n some_o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 149_o &_o 150._o and_o in_o the_o foresay_a proposition_n and_o principle_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 179._o sect_n 9_o it_o be_v say_v by_o the_o divine_n of_o geneva_n we_o be_v of_o mind_n that_o the_o child_n of_o papist_n may_v be_v receive_v into_o baptism_n to_o teach_v and_o practise_v their_o baptise_v of_o infant_n bear_v of_o catholic_n or_o as_o 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baptize_v by_o popish_a shaveling_n yet_o they_o receive_v true_a baptism_n and_o be_v ingraft_v into_o christ_n and_o for_o this_o reason_n because_o there_o be_v a_o church_n in_o popery_n for_o say_v he_o etc._n he_o m._n some_o ibid._n pag._n 149._o post_n med_n and_o amandus_n polanus_fw-la in_o partit_fw-la theolog._n pag._n 305._o post_n med_n say_v hodierna_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la romana_fw-la est_fw-la adhuc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la omnium_fw-la impurissima_fw-la etc._n etc._n alicquin_n two_o qui_fw-la in_o papatu_fw-la sunt_fw-la baptizati_fw-la extra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la christi_fw-la ac_fw-la proinde_fw-la nec_fw-la baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la fuissent_fw-la baptizati_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o in_o popery_n then_o the_o infant_n of_o papist_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v in_o any_o reform_a church_n by_o which_o premise_n of_o their_o confess_a practice_n it_o appear_v first_o that_o the_o child_n of_o catholic_n or_o popish_a parent_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v second_o as_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o covenant_n of_o eternal_a life_n last_o and_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n so_o evident_o in_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o catholic_n or_o popish_a parent_n hold_v for_o available_a to_o his_o child_n and_o shall_v it_o then_o be_v think_v damnable_a to_o himself_o or_o hold_v worthy_a to_o be_v yet_o further_o persecute_v by_o our_o so_o implacable_a and_o unrelenting_a adversary_n 4._o this_o foresay_a truth_n be_v further_o prove_v by_o brereley_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 14._o say_v that_o the_o more_o sober_a and_o learned_a protestant_n who_o headstrong_a and_o inconsiderate_a zeal_n have_v not_o altogether_o blind_v for_o the_o preservation_n of_o christ_n church_n in_o be_v which_o according_a to_o mansura_fw-la to_o m._n whitaker_n against_o m._n reynolds_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o preface_n pag._n 33._o say_v we_o believe_v to_o the_o comfort_n of_o our_o soul_n that_o christ_n church_n have_v continue_v and_o never_o shall_v fail_v so_o long_o as_o the_o world_n endure_v and_o we_o account_v it_o a_o profane_a heresy_n to_o teach_v otherwise_o and_o the_o same_o be_v yet_o further_o affirm_v by_o fulk_n in_o the_o tower_n disput_fw-la with_o edm._n camp_n the_o 2._o day_n conference_n and_o also_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o belgia_n in_o the_o harmony_n of_o confession_n pag._n 321._o and_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o helvetia_n ibid._n pag._n 306._o by_o the_o confession_n of_o saxony_n ibid._n pag._n 324_o 325._o &_o 473._o insomuch_o as_o the_o divine_n of_o wittenberg_n in_o colloquio_fw-la badensi_fw-la apud_fw-la osiandrum_fw-la in_o epitome_n etc._n etc._n cent_n 16._o pag._n 1064._o ante_fw-la med_n say_v ecclesiam_fw-la inde_fw-la ab_fw-la ascensione_n usque_fw-la ad_fw-la haec_fw-la tempora_fw-la nunquam_fw-la interruptam_fw-la sed_fw-la perpetua_fw-la successione_n in_fw-la terris_fw-la permansisse_fw-la firmiter_fw-la credimus_fw-la and_o ibid._n pag._n 1065._o post_n med_n it_o be_v say_v contra_fw-la omnes_fw-la furores_fw-la satanae_n ecclesia_fw-la vera_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la usque_fw-la adventum_fw-la christi_fw-la ad_fw-la extremum_fw-la judicium_fw-la est_fw-la mansura_fw-la all_o opinion_n must_v evermore_o continue_v without_o fail_v or_o cease_v to_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o for_o any_o one_o moment_n of_o time_n do_v acknowledge_v as_o well_o that_o their_o own_o succession_n call_v and_o ministry_n be_v and_o have_v be_v for_o former_a time_n h._n time_n apud_fw-la brereley_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 6._o post_n med_n in_o the_o margin_n at_o *_o next_o before_o d._n m._n bridge_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o government_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 1276._o post_n med_n rest_v so_o whole_o upon_o the_o call_v confer_v to_o their_o protestant_a minister_n from_o and_o under_o our_o catholic_n church_n that_o say_v he_o of_o our_o catholic_n bishop_n and_o their_o call_n if_o our_o brethren_n will_v make_v they_o but_o mere_a layman_n then_o be_v neither_o they_o nor_o we_o any_o minister_n at_o all_o but_o mere_a layman_n also_o for_o who_o ordain_v we_o minister_n but_o such_o minister_n as_o be_v either_o themselves_o of_o their_o ministry_n or_o at_o least_o be_v make_v minister_n of_o those_o minister_n except_o they_o will_v say_v the_o people_n can_v make_v minister_n etc._n etc._n see_v hereof_o further_o in_o brereley_o ibid._n at_o g._n h._n preserve_v in_o and_o by_o the_o only_a succession_n and_o call_v continue_v in_o our_o catholic_n church_n as_o also_o that_o the_o true_a church_n immediate_o before_o luther_n time_n have_v its_o ordinationem_fw-la its_o luc._n osiander_n in_o epitome_n hist_o eccl._n cent_n 16._o part_n altera_fw-la pag._n 1073._o in_o fine_a say_v ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la sub_fw-la papatu_fw-la fuit_fw-la eo_fw-la tempore_fw-la quo_fw-la lutherus_n natus_fw-la est_fw-la suis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n ideoque_fw-la qui_fw-la sub_fw-la papatu_fw-la ad_fw-la ministerium_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ordinati_fw-la ut_fw-la lutherus_n &_o multi_fw-la alii_fw-la evangelici_fw-la doctores_fw-la revera_fw-la habuerunt_fw-la legitimam_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la be_v in_o our_o catholic_n church_n to_o this_o end_n m._n d._n field_n say_v med_n say_v m._n d._n field_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 3._o c._n 6._o pag._n 72._o ante_fw-la med_n where_o some_o demand_n of_o we_o where_o our_o church_n be_v before_o luther_n begin_v we_o say_v it_o be_v where_o now_o it_o be_v if_o they_o ask_v we_o which_o church_n we_o answer_v it_o be_v the_o know_v and_o apparent_a church_n in_o the_o world_n wherein_o all_o our_o ancestor_n live_v and_o dye_v wherein_o luther_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v baptize_v receive_v their_o ordinance_n and_o power_n of_o ministry_n and_o our_o other_o learned_a adversary_n do_v according_o 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votum_fw-la pacis_fw-la facti_fw-la discussio_fw-la 85_o first_n then_o he_o teach_v that_o goodworks_a be_v not_o only_o a_o way_n to_o but_o also_o a_o cause_n of_o reign_v vot_o pag._n 26._o second_o that_o there_o be_v true_a merit_n vot_o pag._n 27._o discuss_v pag._n 46.50.53_o line_n 1._o &_o 2._o three_o that_o we_o be_v not_o certain_a of_o our_o salvation_n certitudine_fw-la fidei_fw-la vot_o pag._n 28._o discuss_v pag._n 55._o and_o ibidem_fw-la four_o that_o with_o god_n grace_n we_o may_v observe_v the_o covenant_n between_o god_n and_o man._n five_o that_o the_o pope_n be_v constitute_v above_o all_o bishop_n to_o take_v away_o the_o occasion_n of_o sciusm_n vot_o pag._n 32._o six_o that_o ancient_a church_n and_o father_n be_v wont_a to_o have_v recourse_n to_o he_o in_o doubt_n concern_v faith_n discuss_v pag._n 23._o that_o the_o pope_n power_n and_o primacy_n be_v necessary_a for_o decide_v controversy_n in_o religion_n discuss_v pag._n 63._o &_o ibidem_fw-la pag._n 66._o &_o sequentibus_fw-la he_o prove_v the_o primacy_n and_o prerogative_n of_o the_o pope_n by_o divers_a excellent_a proof_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o time_n and_o to_o conclude_v he_o say_v that_o there_o can_v on_o union_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n be_v hope_v for_o except_o under_o the_o pope_n discuss_v pag._n 255._o his_o word_n be_v these_o restitutionem_fw-la christianorum_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la idemque_fw-la corpus_fw-la semper_fw-la optatam_fw-la a_o grotio_n sciunt_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la norunt_fw-la existimavit_fw-la autem_fw-la aliquando_fw-la &c._n &c._n incipi_fw-la posse_fw-la à _fw-la protestantium_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la conjunctione_n postea_fw-la vidit_fw-la id_fw-la plane_n fieri_fw-la nequire_v quia_fw-la praeterquam_fw-la quod_fw-la calvinistarum_fw-la ingenia_fw-la firm_a omnium_fw-la ab_fw-la omni_fw-la pace_fw-la sunt_fw-la alienissima_fw-la protestant_n nullo_n inter_fw-la se_fw-la communi_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la 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ad_fw-la retinendam_fw-la unitatem_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la subjicere_fw-la pontificis_fw-la libidini_fw-la sed_fw-la reponere_fw-la ordinem_fw-la sapienter_fw-la institutum_fw-la etc._n etc._n seven_o that_o the_o baptism_n of_o st._n john_n baptist_n do_v not_o forgive_v sin_n but_o be_v imperfect_a in_o comparison_n of_o christian_a baptism_n discuss_v pag._n 76._o vot_o pag._n 38._o eight_o that_o saint_n hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o that_o the_o ancient_a writer_n do_v believe_v that_o saint_n hear_v we_o vot_o pag._n 68_o 69._o 70._o &_o 71._o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n defend_v and_o practise_v invocation_n of_o saint_n he_o prove_v at_o large_a discuss_v pag._n 101._o 102._o 103._o 104._o 105._o 106._o 107._o out_o of_o chrisostom_n augustine_n hierom_n prudentius_n basil_n theodoret_n ambrose_n origen_n and_o conclude_v that_o from_o so_o great_a consent_n of_o father_n it_o appear_v that_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o saint_n be_v 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by_o faith_n alone_o run_v in_o a_o circle_n and_o utter_v unintelligible_a thing_n 17._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o purgatory_n discuss_v pag._n 144._o 145._o 146._o 147._o 148._o 149._o etc._n etc._n 18._o that_o grace_n may_v be_v lose_v 19_o distinction_n of_o mortal_a and_o venial_a sin_n discuss_v pag._n 206._o 207._o etc._n etc._n 20._o he_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o god_n may_v be_v paint_v ea_fw-la forma_fw-la qua_fw-la se_fw-la patribus_fw-la conspiciendum_fw-la dedit_fw-la which_o he_o prove_v even_o from_o the_o learned_a jew_n as_o also_o from_o philosopher_n discuss_v pag._n 114._o 86_o but_o to_o show_v that_o we_o may_v in_o favour_n of_o catholics_n allege_v not_o one_o or_o many_o particular_a man_n but_o the_o whole_a protestant_a church_n of_o england_n it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o their_o communion_n book_n together_o with_o the_o article_n and_o book_n of_o ordination_n be_v compose_v in_o the_o year_n 1547_o by_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n the_o bishop_n of_o rochester_n ely_z hereford_n worcester_z lincoln_n chichester_n wherein_o be_v invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o have_v be_v say_v in_o the_o first_o consideration_n num_fw-la 28._o 87_o the_o further_o i_o proceed_v in_o this_o so_o important_a a_o argument_n and_o consideration_n the_o more_o matter_n offer_v itself_o we_o have_v show_v divers_a way_n how_o many_o learned_a protestant_n stand_v for_o we_o against_o their_o brethren_n there_o remain_v yet_o a_o demonstration_n of_o the_o same_o truth_n take_v from_o a_o great_a pretend_a protestant_n who_o prove_v and_o grant_v this_o to_o be_v true_a even_o by_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v true_a the_o case_n stand_v thus_o mr._n chillingworth_n in_o his_o book_n approve_v by_o three_o principal_a man_n of_o oxford_n c._n 5._o n._n 91._o pag._n 292._o speak_v thus_o to_o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n entitle_v charity_n maintain_v by_o catholic_n who_o part_n 1._o c._n 5._o n._n 31._o pag._n 196._o say_v to_o d._n potter_n you_o can_v be_v ignorant_a but_o that_o many_o chief_n learned_a protestant_n be_v force_v to_o confess_v the_o antiquity_n of_o our_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n and_o do_v in_o several_a and_o many_o controversy_n acknowledge_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n stand_v on_o our_o side_n now_o see_v we_o have_v in_o this_o three_o consideration_n prove_v that_o many_o chief_n protestant_n in_o the_o most_o important_a difference_n between_o we_o and_o they_o hold_v our_o doctrine_n to_o be_v true_a and_o consequent_o to_o be_v most_o ancient_a i_o wonder_v how_o mr._n chillingworth_n will_v answer_v the_o now_o allege_a word_n of_o charity_n maintain_v his_o answer_n consist_v in_o allege_v some_o particular_a point_n wherein_o he_o pretend_v that_o our_o doctrine_n be_v not_o confess_v to_o be_v ancient_a in_o which_o enumeration_n if_o we_o can_v demonstrate_v his_o instance_n to_o be_v either_o untrue_a or_o impertinent_a this_o our_o three_o consideration_n will_v remain_v true_a that_o chief_a protestant_n in_o chief_a point_n hold_v with_o we_o against_o their_o pretend_a brethren_n for_o it_o be_v a_o true_a axiom_n exceptio_fw-la firmat_n oppositam_fw-la regulam_fw-la if_o he_o can_v show_v only_o some_o particular_n wherein_o protestant_n agree_v not_o with_o we_o he_o yield_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la that_o for_o the_o rest_n they_o
miracula_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o fiunt_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la &_o quidem_fw-la solo_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la solius_fw-la laudem_fw-la &c._n &c._n solus_fw-la enim_fw-la deus_fw-la id_fw-la potest_fw-la propriè_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la supra_fw-la naturam_fw-la creatam_fw-la etc._n etc._n 6._o pag._n 43._o miraculum_fw-la christianum_fw-la est_fw-la opus_fw-la dei_fw-la ipsius_fw-la totius_fw-la naturae_fw-la creatae_fw-la vires_fw-la &_o facultates_fw-la superans_fw-la quod_fw-la invocato_fw-la dei_fw-la nomine_fw-la ad_fw-la verae_fw-la fidei_fw-la confirmationem_fw-la fit_n and_o see_v the_o like_a affirm_v by_o amandus_n polanus_fw-la in_o partition_n theolog._n l._n 1._o pag._n 228_o &_o 229._o and_o by_o hierom_n zanchius_n in_o d._n pauli_n epistolas_fw-la ad_fw-la philip._n colloss_n &_o thessaly_n pag._n 241_o &_o 242._o and_o by_o zegedinus_n in_o loc_n commun_n pag._n 188._o antichrist_n miracle_n be_v but_o such_o as_o the_o order_n of_o nature_n observe_v may_v be_v bring_v to_o pass_v by_o the_o deceit_n of_o man_n or_o devil_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o miracle_n wherewith_o god_n garnish_v his_o church_n be_v work_n beside_o or_o against_o the_o order_n of_o nature_n and_o secondary_a cause_n and_o therefore_o do_v only_o by_o the_o divine_a power_n of_o which_o kind_n be_v to_o cure_v disease_n without_o mean_n of_o physic_n and_o many_o other_o such_o like_a whereof_o we_o have_v heretofore_o give_v plentiful_a example_n all_o this_o be_v to_o they_o evident_a and_o not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o what_o refuge_n now_o do_v they_o last_o betake_v themselves_o to_o name_v one_o prime_a man_n instead_o of_o many_o m._n whitaker_n the_o matter_n be_v reduce_v or_o straighten_a to_o this_o issue_n rather_o than_o he_o will_v acknowledge_v our_o catholic_n church_n in_o which_o such_o true_a miracle_n be_v as_o before_o most_o plentiful_o evident_a doubt_v not_o to_o betake_v himself_o to_o this_o extreme_a despair_n rather_o than_o hopeful_a refuge_n as_o serious_o to_o affirm_v that_o although_o it_o be_v indeed_o certain_a that_o posse_fw-la that_o whitaker_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la pag._n 348._o circa_fw-la med_n say_v respondeo_fw-la i_o minimè_fw-la ignorare_fw-la vera_fw-la miracula_fw-la nulla_fw-la vi_fw-la nisi_fw-la divina_fw-la fieri_fw-la posse_fw-la true_a miracle_n can_v be_v do_v but_o by_o the_o divine_a power_n which_o to_o antichrist_n or_o satan_n be_v to_o acknowledge_v they_o for_o god_n yet_o as_o it_o be_v to_o supply_v in_o this_o want_n the_o devil_n confess_v defect_n or_o unableness_n to_o work_v such_o miracle_n he_o be_v not_o abash_v against_o the_o untruth_n the_o sigwartus_fw-la in_o disput_fw-la theologic_n pag._n 172._o initio_fw-la say_v pseudo-doctores_a vel_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsum_fw-la satanam_fw-la ad_fw-la stabiliendas_fw-la haereses_fw-la prodigia_fw-la verè_fw-la divina_fw-la designare_fw-la posâ—e_fw-la pernegamuâ—_n and_o that_o false_a prophet_n can_v do_v no_o true_a miracle_n see_v further_o heretofore_o in_o this_o consideration_n num_fw-la 1._o initio_fw-la in_o the_o margin_n at_o e._n and_o next_o heretofore_o in_o the_o margin_n at_o *_o next_o before_o l._n to_o which_o brereley_o in_o his_o omission_n etc._n etc._n of_o pag._n 551._o lin_v 25._o add_v also_o m._n anthony_n wotton_n in_o his_o trial_n of_o the_o romish_a clergy_n title_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 115._o ante_fw-la med_n according_o say_v for_o my_o own_o part_n under_o correction_n i_o speak_v it_o i_o be_o not_o persuade_v that_o ever_o any_o true_a miracle_n be_v or_o shall_v be_v wrought_v for_o confirmation_n of_o false_a doctrine_n etc._n etc._n i_o see_v no_o sufficient_a cause_n to_o imagine_v that_o god_n will_v employ_v his_o infinite_a power_n to_o the_o countenance_v of_o any_o untruth_n doctrine_n of_o other_o protestant_n to_o conclude_v and_o say_v observe_v we_o beseech_v your_o majesty_n for_o it_o be_v a_o monster_n that_o 784._o that_o whitaker_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 349._o further_n say_v that_o true_a miracle_n be_v not_o of_o force_n to_o demonstrate_v true_a doctrine_n whereof_o be_v give_v this_o reason_n say_v nam_fw-la possunt_fw-la vera_fw-la miraracula_fw-la etiam_fw-la à _fw-la falsis_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la &_o pseudoprophetis_fw-la fieri_fw-la sed_fw-la tamen_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la illorum_fw-la virtute_fw-la etc._n etc._n constat_fw-la enim_fw-la deum_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la veris_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o falsis_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la vim_o tribuere_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la faciendi_fw-la miracula_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la quò_fw-la confirmet_fw-la illorum_fw-la falsa_fw-la dogmata_fw-la sed_fw-la quò_fw-la tentet_fw-la eos_fw-la ad_fw-la quos_fw-la mittantur_fw-la and_o see_v the_o like_a in_o danaeus_n in_o his_o respon_n ad_fw-la bellaâ—mini_fw-la disput_fw-la etc._n etc._n part_n 1._o pag._n 784._o god_n himself_n do_v give_v power_n of_o work_v such_o true_a miracle_n unto_o false_a teacher_n not_o to_o confirm_v their_o false_a opinion_n but_o to_o tempt_v those_o unto_o who_o they_o be_v send_v in_o colour_n of_o which_o paradox_n he_o forbear_v not_o to_o behalf_n to_o misapply_v for_o deut._n 13.1_o 2._o by_o he_o there_o allege_v do_v not_o speak_v of_o god_n enable_v false_a prophet_n but_o of_o permit_v they_o in_o trial_n of_o his_o people_n neither_o do_v it_o concern_v their_o foretell_v of_o thing_n simple_o future_a by_o immediate_a revelation_n from_o god_n but_o only_o of_o such_o other_o future_a effect_n as_o be_v depend_v upon_o their_o precedent_n know_v cause_n and_o be_v also_o in_o they_o foresee_v or_o else_o of_o such_o other_o future_a thing_n as_o depend_v but_o upon_o probability_n of_o conjecture_n collect_v from_o circumstance_n of_o person_n time_n and_o place_n which_o do_v though_o not_o ever_o certain_o yet_o often_o time_n casual_o happen_v and_o so_o according_o it_o be_v but_o say_v with_o condition_n if_o there_o arise_v a_o prophet_n and_o give_v thou_o a_o sign_n and_o the_o sign_n which_o he_o have_v tell_v thou_o come_v to_o pass_v it_o be_v not_o say_v shall_v come_v to_o pass_v but_z if_o it_o do_v come_v to_o pass_v and_o withal_o he_o say_v let_v we_o go_v after_o other_o god_n thou_o shall_v not_o hearken_v to_o his_o word_n second_o though_o some_o of_o those_o who_o have_v true_a revelation_n from_o god_n or_o of_o those_o who_o cast_v out_o devil_n or_o work_v true_a miracle_n be_v reprobate_n whereof_o see_v heretofore_o in_o this_o consideration_n num_fw-la 1._o initio_fw-la at_o f._n g._n h._n yet_o have_v they_o those_o gift_n not_o as_o false_a teacher_n nor_o to_o the_o confirmation_n of_o any_o false_a doctrine_n but_o of_o god_n truth_n themselves_o be_v otherwise_o reprobate_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o wicked_a life_n which_o premise_n observe_v suffice_v to_o explain_v and_o prevent_v many_o impertinent_a objection_n common_o urge_v in_o this_o behalf_n misapply_v the_o scripture_n infer_v thereupon_o that_o etc._n that_o whitaker_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 349._o ante_fw-la med_n have_v divide_v miracle_n into_o true_a and_o false_a say_v dico_fw-la ex_fw-la neutro_fw-la genere_fw-la miraculorum_fw-la posse_fw-la sufficiens_fw-la testimonium_fw-la sumi_fw-la aut_fw-la certum_fw-la argumentum_fw-la collâ—gi_fw-la pro_fw-la vera_fw-la doctrina_fw-la etc._n etc._n no_o sufficient_a testimony_n can_v be_v take_v or_o certain_a argument_n collect_v for_o true_a doctrine_n from_o neither_o kind_n of_o miracle_n true_a or_o false_a direct_o against_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o which_o affirm_v of_o true_a miracle_n that_o they_o 16.20_o they_o our_o lord_n confirm_v the_o word_n with_o sign_n follow_v marc._n 16.20_o do_v confirm_v and_o 2.4_o and_o god_n withal_o testify_v by_o sign_n and_o miracle_n hebr._n 2.4_o witness_v the_o truth_n term_v they_o also_o therefore_o 12.12_o therefore_o the_o sign_n of_o my_o apostleship_n have_v be_v do_v among_o you_o in_o sign_n and_o wonder_n 2_o cor._n 12.12_o sign_n and_o 5.36_o and_o i_o have_v a_o great_a testimony_n than_o john_n the_o very_a work_n which_o i_o do_v give_v testimony_n of_o i_o that_o the_o father_n have_v send_v i_o joan._n 5.36_o testimony_n thereof_o and_o thus_o much_o but_o brief_o respect_v the_o length_n of_o the_o matter_n concern_v miracle_n and_o to_o whether_o church_n catholic_n or_o the_o foresay_a protestant_a church_n the_o same_o have_v be_v confess_o appertain_a or_o want_v and_o consequent_o that_o our_o church_n who_o doctrine_n have_v be_v confirm_v by_o perpetual_a great_a and_o manifest_a miracle_n before_o any_o protestant_a appear_v in_o the_o world_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o be_v feign_v or_o record_v upon_o any_o particular_a design_n against_o they_o and_o their_o heresy_n can_v be_v false_a but_o the_o only_a true_a church_n of_o christ_n the_o five_o consideration_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o protestant_n we_o catholic_n may_v be_v save_v though_o we_o live_v and_o die_v in_o the_o belief_n and_o profession_n of_o those_o article_n wherein_o protestant_n disagree_v from_o we_o all_o initium_fw-la all_o brereley_o tract_n 1._o sect_n 6._o paulò_fw-la post_fw-la initium_fw-la the_o learned_a protestant_n of_o sober_a judgement_n have_v afford_v we_o catholic_n the_o promise_n of_o hopeful_a salvation_n as_o
as_o well_o as_o they_o therefore_o we_o catholic_n have_v the_o life_n and_o substance_n of_o religion_n pag._n 60._o in_o the_o prime_a ground_n or_o principle_n of_o christian_a religion_n we_o have_v not_o forsake_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n therefore_o he_o grant_v that_o we_o have_v the_o prime_a ground_n or_o fundamental_a article_n of_o religion_n pag._n 11._o for_o those_o catholic_n verity_n which_o she_o the_o roman_a church_n retain_v we_o yield_v she_o a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n though_o one_o of_o the_o most_o unsound_a and_o corrupt_a member_n in_o this_o sense_n the_o romanist_n may_v be_v call_v catholic_n behold_v we_o be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o we_o err_v in_o any_o one_o fundamental_a point_n by_o the_o way_n if_o the_o romanist_n may_v be_v call_v catholic_n why_o may_v not_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v term_v catholic_n and_o yet_o this_o be_v that_o argument_n which_o protestant_n be_v wont_a to_o urge_v against_o we_o and_o potter_n in_o particular_a in_o this_o very_a place_n not_o consider_v that_o he_o impugn_v himself_o while_o he_o speak_v against_o we_o not_o distinguish_v between_o universal_a as_o logician_n speak_v of_o it_o which_o signify_v one_o common_a thing_n abstract_n or_o abstract_v from_o all_o particular_n and_o catholic_n as_o it_o be_v take_v in_o true_a divinity_n for_o the_o church_n spread_v over_o the_o whole_a world_n that_o be_v all_o church_n which_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a and_o upon_o that_o vain_a conceit_n tell_v his_o unlearned_a reader_n that_o universal_a and_o particular_a be_v term_n repugnant_a and_o consequent_o one_o can_v be_v affirm_v of_o the_o other_o that_o be_v say_v i_o catholic_n can_v be_v affirm_v of_o d._n potter_n nor_o d._n potter_n say_v to_o be_v a_o catholic_n because_o a_o particular_a can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v universal_a or_o a_o universal_a pag._n 75._o to_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o some_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n there_o may_v be_v just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n want_v nothing_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n pag._n 70._o they_o the_o roman_a doctor_n confess_v that_o set_v aside_o all_o matter_n controvert_v the_o main_a positive_a truth_n wherein_o all_o agree_v be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o every_o good_a christian_a both_o for_o his_o knowledge_n and_o for_o his_o practice_n teach_v he_o what_o to_o believe_v and_o how_o to_o live_v so_o as_o he_o may_v be_v save_v his_o say_n that_o the_o roman_a doctor_n confess_v that_o set_v aside_o all_o matter_n controvert_v etc._n etc._n be_v very_o untrue_a it_o be_v manifest_a that_o catholic_n believe_v protestant_n to_o err_v damnable_o both_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o practice_v yet_o his_o word_n convince_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o we_o have_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a yea_o and_o abundant_o sufficient_a both_o for_o knowledge_n and_o practice_v for_o we_o to_o be_v save_v and_o then_o he_o discourse_v of_o the_o doctrine_n wherein_o we_o differ_v from_o protestant_n say_v pag._n 74._o if_o the_o mistaker_n will_v suppose_v his_o roman_a church_n and_o religion_n purge_v from_o these_o and_o the_o like_v confess_v excess_n and_o novelty_n he_o shall_v find_v in_o that_o which_o remain_v little_a difference_n of_o importance_n between_o we_o therefore_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la we_o believe_v all_o thing_n of_o importance_n which_o protestant_n believe_v after_o these_o word_n without_o any_o interruption_n he_o go_v forward_o and_o say_v pag._n 75._o but_o by_o this_o discourse_n the_o mistaker_n happy_o may_v believe_v his_o cause_n to_o be_v advantage_v and_o may_v reply_v if_o rome_n want_v nothing_o essential_a to_o religion_n or_o to_o a_o church_n how_o then_o can_v the_o reformer_n justify_v their_o separation_n from_o that_o church_n or_o free_v themselves_o from_o damnable_a schism_n do_v not_o this_o discourse_n prove_v and_o the_o objection_n which_o he_o raise_v from_o it_o suppose_v that_o we_o want_v nothing_o essential_a to_o religion_n otherwise_o this_o objection_n which_o he_o make_v to_o himself_o be_v clear_o impertinent_a and_o foolish_a if_o he_o can_v have_v dispatch_v all_o by_o say_v we_o err_v in_o essential_a point_n which_o have_v be_v a_o evident_a and_o more_o than_o a_o just_a cause_n to_o justify_v their_o separation_n which_o yet_o appear_v further_o by_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o say_a objection_n that_o to_o depart_v from_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o namely_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o some_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n there_o may_v be_v just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n want_v nothing_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o afterward_o in_o the_o next_o pag._n 76._o speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n he_o say_v express_o her_o communion_n we_o forsake_v not_o no_o more_o than_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereof_o we_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o member_n though_o corrupt_v and_o this_o clear_v we_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o schism_n who_o property_n it_o be_v to_o cut_v off_o from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n the_o church_n from_o which_o it_o separate_v but_o if_o she_o do_v err_v in_o any_o one_o fundamental_a point_n by_o that_o very_a error_n she_o will_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o shall_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n therefore_o she_o do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n p._n 83._o we_o be_v never_o disjoin_v from_o she_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o those_o main_a essential_a truth_n which_o give_v she_o the_o name_n and_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n you_o must_v then_o say_v that_o she_o err_v not_o in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n for_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n can_v subsist_v with_o any_o such_o error_n and_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o desirous_a he_o be_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v believe_v catholic_n &_o protestant_n not_o to_o differ_v in_o the_o essence_n of_o religion_n he_o add_v these_o word_n immediate_o after_o those_o which_o we_o have_v last_o cite_v whereof_o if_o the_o mistaker_n doubt_n he_o may_v be_v better_o inform_v by_o some_o late_a roman_n catholic_n writer_n one_o of_o france_n who_o have_v purposely_o in_o a_o large_a treatise_n prove_v as_o he_o believe_v the_o hugonot_n and_o catholic_n of_o that_o kingdom_n to_o be_v all_o of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n because_o of_o truth_n agree_v upon_o by_o both_o and_o another_o of_o our_o country_n as_o it_o be_v say_v who_o have_v late_o publish_v a_o large_a catalogue_n of_o learned_a author_n both_o papist_n and_o protestant_n who_o be_v all_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n thus_o you_o see_v he_o ransack_v all_o kind_n of_o proof_n to_o show_v that_o catholic_n and_o protestant_n differ_v not_o in_o the_o substance_n and_o essence_n of_o faith_n and_o to_o that_o end_n cite_v for_o catholic_n writer_n those_o two_o who_o can_v be_v no_o catholic_n as_o charity_n maintain_v part_n 1._o chap._n 3._o pag._n 104._o show_v the_o former_a in_o particular_a to_o be_v a_o plain_a heretic_n or_o rather_o atheist_n lucian-like_a jest_v at_o all_o religion_n pag._n 78._o he_o say_v we_o hope_v and_o think_v very_o well_o of_o all_o those_o holy_a and_o devout_a soul_n which_o in_o former_a age_n live_v and_o dye_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n nay_o our_o charity_n reach_v further_a to_o all_o those_o at_o this_o day_n who_o in_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n believe_v the_o roman_a religion_n and_o profess_v it_o to_o these_o word_n of_o the_o doctor_n if_o we_o subsume_v but_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o any_o can_v be_v save_v even_o by_o ignorance_n or_o any_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n if_o he_o err_v in_o a_o fundamental_a point_n because_o as_o by_o every_o such_o error_n a_o church_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o church_n so_o every_o particular_a person_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n the_o conclusion_n will_v be_v that_o we_o do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n nay_o pag._n 79._o he_o say_v further_a we_o believe_v it_o the_o roman_a religion_n safe_a that_o be_v by_o god_n great_a mercy_n not_o damnable_a to_o some_o such_o as_o believe_v what_o they_o profess_v but_o we_o believe_v it_o not_o safe_a but_o very_o dangerous_a if_o not_o certain_o damnable_a to_o such_o as_o profess_v it_o when_o they_o believe_v or_o if_o their_o heart_n be_v upright_o and_o not_o perverse_o obstinate_a may_v believe_v the_o contrary_a behold_v we_o be_v not_o only_o in_o a_o possibility_n to_o be_v save_v we_o be_v even_o safe_a upon_o condition_n we_o believe_v that_o faith_n to_o be_v true_a which_o we_o profess_v and_o for_o which_o we_o have_v suffer_v so_o long_o so_o great_a and_o so_o many_o
that_o many_o learned_a protestant_n do_v not_o believe_v all_o such_o doctrine_n and_o consequent_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o salvation_n pag._n 269._o n._n 45._o a_o man_n may_v possible_o leave_v some_o opinion_n or_o practice_n of_o a_o church_n former_o common_a to_o himself_o and_o other_o and_o continue_v still_o a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n provide_v that_o what_o he_o forsake_v be_v not_o one_o of_o those_o thing_n wherein_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n consist_v for_o this_o cause_n he_o say_v that_o although_o protestant_n leave_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o they_o leave_v not_o the_o church_n because_o they_o leave_v she_o not_o in_o any_o thing_n essential_a to_o a_o church_n as_o fundamental_a point_n be_v therefore_o he_o suppose_v the_o church_n before_o luther_n do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a article_n otherwise_o protestant_n have_v leave_v she_o that_o be_v they_o have_v disagree_v from_o she_o in_o a_o fundamental_a point_n p._n 272._o n._n 52_o and_o pag._n 283._o n._n 73._o he_o deny_v that_o protestant_n divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o church_n absolute_o and_o simple_o in_o all_o thing_n that_o be_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o it_o which_o still_o suppose_v that_o the_o church_n before_o luther_n believe_v all_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a point_n which_o protestant_n also_o pretend_v to_o hold_v and_o for_o that_o cause_n say_v they_o leave_v not_o the_o church_n pag._n 272._o n._n 52._o he_o say_v in_o the_o reason_n of_o our_o separation_n from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o your_o church_n you_o be_v mistake_v for_o it_o be_v not_o so_o much_o because_o she_o your_o church_n as_o because_o your_o church_n external_a communion_n be_v corrupt_v and_o need_v reformation_n but_o if_o we_o err_v in_o fundamental_a point_n protestant_n must_v have_v forsake_v we_o chief_o for_o that_o reason_n that_o our_o church_n be_v corrupt_v with_o fundamental_a error_n of_o faith_n therefore_o he_o grant_v that_o we_o err_v not_o in_o any_o such_o necessary_a point_n pag._n 401._o n._n 26._o he_o confess_v that_o d._n potter_n say_v indeed_o that_o our_o not_o cut_v off_o your_o church_n from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o hope_v of_o salvation_n free_v we_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o schism_n pag._n 133._o n._n 12._o he_o say_v express_o by_o confession_n of_o both_o side_n we_o agree_v in_o much_o more_o than_o be_v simple_o and_o indispensable_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n it_o be_v well_o he_o make_v so_o open_a a_o confession_n that_o we_o believe_v much_o more_o than_o be_v simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o as_o i_o say_v before_o we_o will_v not_o because_o we_o can_v yield_v so_o much_o to_o protestant_n and_o here_o i_o must_v ask_v again_o how_o he_o can_v say_v pag._n 401._o n._n 27._o as_o for_o our_o free_n you_o from_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o yield_v you_o salvation_n neither_o d._n potter_n nor_o any_o other_o protestant_n be_v 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