Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	believe_v	faith_n	receive_v	1,425	5	5.4940	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A19033	The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people.	Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616.	1610 (1610)	STC 5450; ESTC S1572	214,939	244

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into_o apostasy_n do_v remember_v ●5_a rom._n 11._o ●5_a this_o his_o promise_n and_o call_v thence_o such_o as_o he_o have_v choose_v to_o witness_v his_o truth_n and_o give_v they_o to_o separate_v from_o their_o false_a way_n and_o to_o return_v to_o jerusalem_n also_o the_o lord_n have_v graff_v the_o gentile_n in_o and_z †_o make_v they_o partaker_n of_o the_o root_n and_o fatness_n of_o the_o olive_n tree_n vouchsafe_v 7._o rom._n 11._o 7._o his_o grace_n to_o they_o and_o their_o posterity_n but_o their_o apostasy_n he_o hate_v as_o he_o do_v that_o of_o the_o israelite_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o he_o have_v his_o people_n 8._o rom._n 11._o 8._o in_o babylon_n who_o he_o call_v out_o to_o confess_v his_o name_n for_o the_o covenant_n be_v give_v to_o the_o believe_a gentile_n as_o it_o be_v former_o to_o the_o israelite_n and_o be_v no_o more_o extinguish_v in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n then_o in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n and_o as_o for_o the_o meaning_n 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