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A65870 Judgment fixed upon the accuser of our brethren and the real Christian-Quaker vindicated from the persecuting outrage of apostate informers chiefly from W. Rogers, F. Bugg, T. Crisp, John Pennyman and Jeffery Bullock ... / by that contemned servant of Christ George Whitehead. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1682 (1682) Wing W1937; ESTC R34747 166,538 377

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before_o show_v as_o if_o his_o condescension_n be_v intend_v to_o brethren_n that_o be_v not_o upright_o heart_v here_o his_o sight_n fail_v he_o and_o he_o be_v great_o mistake_v again_o pervert_v the_o penmans_n sense_n for_o though_o i_o affirm_v that_o those_o thing_n recommend_v among_o we_o by_o divine_a 136._o authority_n and_o evidence_n either_o as_o duty_n to_o god_n or_o man_n or_o as_o necessary_a for_o good_a order_n and_o holiness_n of_o conversation_n will_v have_v reception_n with_o all_o upright_a heart_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o the_o condescension_n be_v intend_v to_o brethren_n that_o be_v not_o upright_o heart_v or_o false_a for_o first_o here_o be_v not_o a_o limitation_n of_o time_n when_o all_o thing_n necessary_a as_o before_o will_v have_v reception_n with_o all_o upright_a heart_n so_o that_o there_o be_v a_o time_n and_o cause_n for_o condescension_n to_o they_o of_o low_a degree_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o weakness_n not_o insincerity_n second_o many_o upright_a one_o
do_v not_o present_o or_o immediate_o see_v every_o thing_n that_o be_v recommend_v in_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n to_o be_v practise_v but_o must_v have_v time_n to_o weigh_v and_o consider_v matter_n before_o the_o lord_n first_o in_o order_n to_o receive_v a_o clear_a understanding_n and_o judgement_n from_o he_o before_o they_o act_v therein_o so_o that_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n there_o must_v be_v a_o tender_a condescension_n patience_n and_o forbearance_n on_o all_o hand_n towards_o such_o not_o to_o look_v upon_o or_o judge_v their_o want_n of_o present_a clearness_n and_o their_o present_a fear_n to_o act_v because_o thereof_o a_o act_n of_o refusal_n or_o rebellion_n on_o their_o part_n no_o no_o far_o be_v it_o from_o we_o know_v that_o such_o upright_o heart_v one_o even_o when_o but_o in_o a_o poor_a low_a and_o weak_a state_n will_v not_o oppose_v refuse_v or_o gainsay_v any_o thing_n they_o at_o present_a see_v not_o that_o be_v either_o in_o itself_o good_a and_o honest_a or_o necessary_a for_o good_a order_n and_o society_n their_o uprightness_n tenderness_n honesty_n and_o fear_n towards_o god_n preserve_v they_o from_o contention_n and_o blind_a opposition_n in_o such_o case_n whilst_o give_v up_o tender_o to_o wait_v till_o god_n reveal_v that_o unto_o they_o whether_o immediate_o or_o instrumental_o which_o for_o a_o time_n they_o have_v not_o clearness_n in_o and_o be_v sure_a he_o will_v not_o be_v awanting_a in_o his_o divine_a counsel_n and_o open_n to_o such_o §_o 2._o to_o his_o charge_v the_o penman_n with_o a_o groundness_n complaint_n of_o print_v against_o g._n f._n without_o first_o proceed_v judicial_o or_o hear_v of_o matter_n face_n to_o face_n p._n 39_o groundless_a complaint_n be_v a_o untruth_n there_o be_v manifest_a ground_n for_o that_o complaint_n on_o w._n r_n own_o confession_n and_o principle_n viz._n his_o enveigh_v against_o judge_v any_o man_n without_o hear_v he_o judge_v the_o merit_n of_o the_o cause_n without_o hear_v the_o same_o judge_v and_o censure_v a_o person_n unheard_a in_o the_o defence_n of_o himself_o as_o be_v a_o grand_a mark_n of_o apostasy_n as_o in_o his_o preface_n to_o his_o christian-quaker_n that_o w._n r._n have_v so_o ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la judge_v and_o condemn_v g._n f._n and_o other_o in_o divers_a thing_n unheard_a in_o their_o own_o defence_n we_o have_v produce_v divers_a sufficient_a and_o unanswered_a instance_n in_o our_o treatise_n entitle_v the_o accuser_n of_o our_o brethren_n cast_v down_o and_o particular_o his_o false_a construction_n on_o g._n f_n word_n viz._n do_v not_o make_v bargain_n with_o that_o which_o be_v out_o of_o the_o truth_n on_o which_o w._n r._n conclude_v a_o design_n of_o imposition_n and_o so_o far_o as_o in_o g._n f._n lie_v to_o obstruct_v friend_n from_o bargain_v with_o such_o who_o he_o condemn_v as_o have_v no_o right_a to_o bargain_n buy_v or_o sell_v until_o they_o answer_v by_o condemnation_n or_o else_o that_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o g._n f._n will_v not_o have_v friend_n discourse_n with_o such_o nor_o yet_o to_o agree_v about_o any_o orderly_a conference_n in_o order_n to_o a_o reconciliation_n or_o hear_v of_o difference_n etc._n etc._n conclude_v it_o must_v be_v one_o of_o these_o two_o meaning_n because_o a_o three_o he_o can_v not_o think_v of_o as_o the_o matter_n be_v full_o treat_v on_o in_o our_o say_a treatise_n accuser_n p._n 146_o 147_o 148_o 149_o 150_o etc._n etc._n in_o which_o w._n r_n judgement_n and_o both_o his_o suppose_a meaning_n be_v prove_v untrue_a but_o still_o to_o aggravate_v the_o matter_n against_o g._n f._n he_o say_v he_o have_v use_v the_o utmost_a of_o his_o endeavour_n to_o obtain_v a_o meeting_n with_o he_o for_o such_o a_o end_n that_o be_v for_o a_o hear_n of_o matter_n face_n to_o face_n at_o several_a time_n since_o his_o last_o be_v in_o bristol_n in_o the_o year_n 1677._o and_o it_o will_v not_o be_v condescend_v to_o say_v he_o p._n 39_o 40._o this_o still_o the_o more_o confirm_v the_o complaint_n against_o he_o viz._n his_o print_n against_o g._n f._n yea_o judge_v and_o condemn_v he_o without_o hear_v the_o matter_n face_n to_o face_n for_o which_o he_o be_v condemn_v which_o be_v a_o extradicial_a and_o injurious_a proceedure_n and_o grand_a mark_n of_o apostasy_n so_o to_o do_v according_a to_o w._n r_n own_o judgement_n and_o his_o pretence_n that_o such_o a_o meeting_n will_v not_o be_v condescend_v to_o will_v not_o excuse_v the_o fact_n that_o be_v his_o judge_a and_o censure_v a_o person_n unheard_a in_o his_o own_o defence_n etc._n etc._n as_o a_o grand_a mark_n of_o apostasy_n he_o may_v have_v have_v patience_n and_o rather_o wait_v a_o opportunity_n for_o meeting_n with_o g._n f._n than_o have_v condemn_v he_o in_o print_n in_o divers_a thing_n unheard_a in_o his_o own_o defence_n and_o that_o on_o his_o own_o false_a suggestion_n meaning_n and_o construction_n contrary_a to_o his_o own_o doctrine_n which_o be_v become_v his_o own_o self-condemnation_n §_o 3._o now_o wherein_o do_v the_o penman_n false_a suggestion_n and_o unchristianlike_a treatment_n consist_v to_o prove_v he_o a_o impious_a prevaricator_n or_o downright_a forger_n as_o w._n r._n term_n he_o p._n 41._o see_v how_o he_o attempt_v proof_n in_o these_o word_n viz._n i_o shall_v at_o present_a cite_v only_o a_o few_o instance_n thereof_o in_o his_o own_o word_n quoth_v he_o viz._n p._n 73._o his_o main_a work_n be_v still_o to_o invalidate_v the_o authority_n and_o sentence_n of_o the_o true_a church_n pag._n 87._o which_o answer_v and_o confute_v w._n r._n in_o oppose_v outward_a direction_n method_n and_o form_n relate_v to_o church_n government_n pag._n 88_o his_o principal_a objection_n against_o outward_a order_n prescription_n sentence_n decree_n form_n of_o church_n government_n discipline_n etc._n etc._n p._n 91._o his_o gainsaying_n and_o general_a objection_n against_o we_o in_o relation_n to_o church_n government_n and_o order_n among_o we_o the_o people_n call_v quaker_n p._n 261._o which_o answer_v his_o general_a opposition_n to_o outward_a order_n form_n and_o discipline_n thus_o have_v w._n r._n cite_v our_o word_n by_o piece_n now_o if_o it_o be_v make_v appear_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v just_o lay_v to_o w._n r_n charge_n from_o his_o own_o word_n and_o sense_n thereof_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v see_v cause_n to_o be_v ashamed_a of_o his_o clamour_n of_o false_a suggestion_n impious_a prevaricator_n etc._n etc._n in_o order_n to_o which_o i_o thus_o direct_o proceed_v first_o that_o his_o work_n have_v be_v to_o invalidate_v the_o authority_n and_o sentence_n of_o the_o true_a church_n on_o mat._n 5._o and_o chap._n 6._o he_o say_v wherein_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o tittle_n to_o countenance_v this_o sentence_n that_o the_o positive_a sentence_n or_o decision_n of_o the_o church_n in_o matter_n of_o conscience_n may_v be_v obligatory_a on_o believer_n as_o in_o the_o three_o part_n of_o his_o christian-quaker_n p._n 64._o and_o his_o contest_v against_o those_o who_o he_o say_v have_v approve_v a_o plea_n for_o such_o a_o church_n government_n as_o claim_v a_o power_n of_o decide_v matter_n relate_v to_o conscience_n and_o outward_a thing_n on_o occasion_n of_o difference_n about_o worldly_a estate_n and_o that_o other_o ought_v to_o obey_v such_o decision_n which_o say_v he_o in_o its_o natural_a consequence_n have_v as_o we_o take_v it_o no_o less_o tendency_n than_o to_o claim_v power_n over_o our_o property_n as_o well_o as_o conscience_n as_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o christian-quaker_n note_v a_o sad_a but_o fallacious_a consequence_n detect_v in_o our_o treatise_n accuser_n from_o pag._n 53_o to_o p._n 76._o be_v it_o not_o plain_a that_o w._n r._n have_v here_o endeavour_v to_o invalidate_v the_o authority_n and_o sentence_n of_o the_o true_a church_n by_o we_o plead_v if_o neither_o obligatory_a on_o believer_n in_o matter_n of_o conscience_n nor_o in_o outward_a thing_n or_o if_o the_o church_n may_v not_o be_v allow_v a_o power_n of_o make_v decision_n in_o matter_n of_o difference_n either_o relate_n to_o conscience_n or_o outward_a estate_n according_a to_o mat._n 18.17_o and_o 1_o cor._n 6._o of_o what_o validity_n be_v the_o authority_n sentence_n or_o power_n of_o the_o church_n with_o w._n r_o what_o be_v more_o plain_n against_o he_o than_o his_o own_o word_n before_o recite_v second_o that_o he_o have_v oppose_v and_o object_v against_o outward_a order_n form_n discipline_n prescription_n sentence_n decree_n his_o gainsaying_n and_o general_a objection_n and_o opposition_n to_o outward_a order_n form_n and_o discipline_n relate_v to_o church_n government_n etc._n etc._n see_v how_o he_o argue_v the_o case_n against_o outward_a order_n prescription_n sentence_n decree_n etc._n etc._n under_o the_o new_a covenant_n viz._n because_o the_o apostle_n labour_n be_v to_o