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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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which_o be_v above_o the_o sun_n this_o say_v saunder_n without_o all_o proof_n and_o against_o all_o reason_n for_o chrysostome_n say_v it_o be_v the_o table_n of_o eagle_n therefore_o it_o be_v a_o high_a table_n than_o the_o table_n in_o the_o church_n where_o unto_o we_o must_v fly_v upwarde_o always_o even_o into_o heaven_n where_o that_o body_n which_o once_o be_v dead_a be_v now_o sit_v in_o glory_n yea_o above_o all_o visible_a heaven_n and_o therefore_o above_o the_o sun_n so_o that_o the_o table_n in_o chrysostome_n signify_v metonymical_o the_o spiritual_a meat_n and_o drink_n which_o the_o faithful_a receive_v by_o faith_n only_o whereof_o the_o table_n on_o earth_n with_o that_o which_o be_v on_o it_o be_v only_o a_o sacrament_n pledge_n &_o assurance_n but_o chrysostome_n in_o the_o same_o homily_n say_v if_o no_o man_n will_v rash_o handle_v a_o other_o man_n garment_n how_o dare_v we_o
in_o the_o unity_n of_o his_o body_n that_o be_v in_o the_o coviunction_n of_o christian_a member_n the_o sacrament_n of_o which_o body_n the_o faithful_a communicate_v be_v accustom_v to_o receive_v from_o the_o altar_n he_o be_v to_o be_v say_v true_o to_o eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o drink_v the_o blood_n of_o christ._n de_fw-fr civi_fw-la dei_fw-la li._n 21._o cap._n 25._o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n he_o appose_v sacramento_n tenus_fw-la &_o revera_fw-la manducare_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la to_o eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o far_o as_o the_o sacrament_n and_o to_o eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o very_a deed_n ergo_fw-la they_o that_o eat_v the_o sacrament_n only_o eat_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o very_a deed_n therefore_o christ_n gift_n be_v not_o only_o in_o the_o sacrament_n jewel_n the_o father_n of_o the_o old_a law_n receive_v the_o self_n same_o body_n that_o be_v now_o receive_v of_o the_o faithful_a aug._n the_o util_a p●n_n cap._n 1._o saunder_n augustine_n say_v the_o self_n same_o spiritual_a meat_n that_o be_v christ_n by_o faith_n but_o not_o the_o same_o corporal_a meat_n which_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n tract_n 11._o in_o joan._n fulke_n augustine_n say_v not_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v our_o corporal_a meat_n but_o that_o which_o answer_v in_o proportion_n to_o manna_n as_o a_o corporal_a meat_n namely_o bread_n and_o wine_n tract_n 26._o saunder_n but_o tract_n 11._o he_o say_v quid_fw-la est_fw-la manna_n what_o it_o manna_n i_o be_o say_v christ_n the_o live_a bread_n that_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n fulke_n it_o follow_v immediate_o manna_n accipiunt_fw-la fideles_fw-la the_o faithful_a receive_v manna_n therefore_o he_o mean_v not_o manna_n in_o this_o place_n for_o the_o corporal_a meat_n but_o for_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v spiritual_a meat_n saunder_n but_o he_o say_v further_a it_o be_v know_v what_o god_n have_v rain_v from_o heaven_n and_o know_v not_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la what_o christian_n take_v let_v they_o blush_v because_o they_o know_v not_o let_v they_o pass_v over_o by_o the_o red_a sea_n let_v they_o eat_v manna_n that_o even_o as_o they_o have_v believe_v in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n so_o jesus_n may_v commit_v himself_o to_o they_o therefore_o jesus_n be_v eat_v bodily_a of_o we_o after_o baptism_n fulke_o i_o deny_v the_o argument_n except_o manna_n be_v jesus_n bodily_a if_o manna_n be_v spiritual_o take_v than_o jesus_n be_v eat_v in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o he_o be_v in_o manna_n which_o saunder_n confess_v to_o be_v only_o spiritual_o saunder_n but_o catechumeni_fw-la may_v so_o eat_v christ_n that_o be_v spiritual_o fulke_n they_o may_v not_o eat_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o they_o be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o mystery_n jewel_n every_o faithful_a man_n be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o baptism_n while_o he_o find_v that_o unity_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o the_o faithful_a eat_v christ_n body_n otherwise_o then_o in_o the_o sacrament_n apud_fw-la bedam_fw-la 1._o cor._n 10._o saunder_n they_o be_v not_o partaker_n real_o but_o only_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n in_o which_o if_o the_o body_n be_v not_o real_o present_a he_o that_o be_v baptize_v shall_v not_o at_o all_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n supper_n because_o he_o be_v not_o partaker_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o only_o be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o that_o mystical_a body_n which_o in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v signify_v fulke_n beda_n know_v no_o such_o distinction_n of_o real_o &_o spiritual_o neither_o do_v he_o say_v they_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n but_o of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o baptism_n wherefore_o i_o know_v not_o whereof_o saunder_n dream_v saunder_n augustine_n say_v of_o heretic_n and_o schismatics_n de_fw-fr civet_n dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o cap._n 25._o they_o be_v not_o in_o that_o bond_n of_o peace_n which_o be_v express_v in_o that_o sacrament_n the_o bond_n of_o peace_n express_v be_v not_o the_o wheaten_a corn_n mould_v in_o one_o loaf_n but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n present_v real_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n fulke_n alack_o poor_a sophistry_n christ_n be_v the_o bond_n of_o peace_n but_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n be_v express_v in_o the_o external_a sacrament_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n although_o the_o wheaten_a corn_n be_v not_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n express_v yet_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n be_v express_v by_o the_o wheaten_a corn_n etc._n etc._n saunder_n look_v in_o my_o 5._o book_n cap_n 5._o fulke_n look_v there_o for_o a_o answer_n cap._n v._n saunder_n master_n jewel_n have_v not_o reply_v well_o touch_v the_o capernaite_n harding_n if_o christ_n in_o s._n john_n have_v speak_v tropical_o the_o jew_n and_o disciple_n who_o be_v use_v to_o figure_n will_v not_o have_v say_v this_o be_v a_o hard_a say_n jewel_n his_o reason_n hang_v thus_o the_o capernaite_n understand_v not_o christ_n ergo_fw-la his_fw-la body_n be_v real_o in_o the_o sacrament_n saunder_n no_o sir_n they_o understand_v christ_n to_o speak_v without_o parable_n &_o christ_n word_n pertain_v to_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o his_o body_n be_v real_o in_o the_o sacrament_n they_o understand_v what_o christ_n promise_v but_o they_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v either_o not_o possible_a or_o not_o convenient_a fulke_n the_o mayor_n &_o minor_fw-la of_o your_o misshape_a syllogism_n be_v both_o false_a augustin_n in_o ps._n 33._o exhorruerunt_fw-la sermonem_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o be_v afraid_a of_o his_o speech_n &_o not_o understanding_n they_o think_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n have_v speak_v some_o hard_a thing_n etc._n etc._n saunder_n s._n augustine_n say_v they_o understand_v not_o because_o they_o believe_v not_o in_o joan._n tr._n 27._o fulke_n what_o though_o infidelity_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o not_o understand_v yet_o he_o say_v non_fw-la intelligendo_fw-la scandalizati_fw-la sunt_fw-la by_o not_o understand_v they_o be_v offend_v ergo_fw-la you_o say_v false_o they_o understand_v what_o he_o promise_v and_o much_o less_o understand_v they_o the_o mean_v how_o it_o shall_v be_v perform_v jewel_n he_o say_v the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v etc._n etc._n of_o spiritual_a eat_n it_o be_v the_o spirit_n that_o quicken_v understand_v you_o my_o word_n spiritual_o say_v augustine_n saunder_n see_v in_o my_o three_o book_n cap._n 19_o &_o 20._o fulke_n see_v the_o answer_n in_o the_o same_o place_n jewel_n you_o shall_v not_o eat_v say_v s_n augustine_n with_o your_o bodily_a mouth_n this_o body_n that_o you_o see_v etc._n etc._n i_o give_v you_o a_o certain_a sacrament_n saunder_n of_o this_o place_n i_o have_v speak_v at_o large_a lib._n 6._o cap._n 2._o &_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 14._o fulk_n and_o i_o 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