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A11248 Merry iests, concerning popes, monkes, and friers Whereby is discouered their abuses and errors &c. Written first in Italian by N.S. and thence translated into French by G.I. and now out of French into English, by R.W. Bac. of Arts of H.H. in Oxon. N. S., fl. 1617.; Willet, Roland, b. 1588 or 9. 1617 (1617) STC 21510; ESTC S110774 55,403 144

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doth Iustifie seeing that there is a text in the Gospell which doth manifestly beat downe this their opinion and I wonder much more at our selues that none of vs heretofore could finde it out for by this meanes we had long since shut vp the mouths of all the Lutherans and constrayned them to magnifie good workes and say with vs that they iustifie And willing to reueale it vnto them hée said doe yee not remember that it is written in the Gospell that the Apostles being in a shippe tossed with a tempest Iesus Christ appeared vnto them on the waues and that S. Peter who was then a Lutheran beleeuing that faith alone was sufficient to saue him said vnto Christ bid me come vnto thee on the waters and that after Christ had commaunded him to come hee leapt into the sea with his faith and was almost drowned Yea hee had been drowned in deed if Iesus Christ had not miraculously aided him and placed him againe in the barke making him returne vnto works and rowing with the oare Wherefore let who will do as Peter did be drowned with their trust in Iesus Christ for my part I am determined not to abandon the little ship but therein for my better assurance to remaine rowing with the Dare and trauelling with workes these his spéeches as containing the reuelation of a rare and excellent secret were entertained with a great applause by all the other Bishops except the Bishop of Caua who said thus my opinion is that whereas Peter began to sinke it came to passe not by reason of his faith but of his infidelity and want of faith And therefore Christ reprehending him said O thou of little faith why didst thou feare As if he had said If thou hadst béene strong in faith thou mightst safely haue marched vpon the waues of the Sea So that if other Bishops héeretofore did not produce this text of Scripture to proue that faith alone was not sufficient to saue vs it was because they did plainely sée that it serued nothing to their purpose Hée had scarce made an end of speaking but a Bishop great in wealth and dignity called the Greguetto said that he was an hereticke for his words did sauour strongly of heresie Now the first Bishop who was very angry that his reason which hee thought inuincible was gainsaid when hée perceiued that his opinion was maintained by a man of such credit hee ranne vpon the Bishop of Caua which contradicted him and paid him by the beard and had done worse to him if the rest had not speedily come betwéene them and parted them and also reconciled them one to the other inioyning them straitly that for the honour of the Councell they should neuer speake word of it The 58. Apologue whereby is shewed what are the foundations of the Popedome IT is reported that the Emperor was desirous to haue three questions disputed and agreed vpon at the Councell of Trent The first whereof was whether Constantine could giue Rome or did giue it to the Bishop of Rome The second whether it were true as Platina hath written that the Emperor Phoca was hee who gaue power to the Bishop of Rome to be Superior and chiefe of other Bishops and whether by that it did follow that the power of the Pope did depend on him The third whether it were consonant to reason that a Bishop who ought to be busied altogether in spirituall thinges should also haue the gouernment of the temporall estate These questions they say hee gaue to the best learned of the Lutherans that they might study and examine them well to the end they might come to the Councell armed and furnished with good and sollid reasons When the Pope heard of this hee was very much perplexed with it and therefore proposed this enterprize of the Emperor to the Cardinalls in the Consistory to know their mindes therein and some of them tolde him that hee had no remedys for it but to hinder the Councell by mouing new warres and dissentions in the Christian Common-wealth But others were of opinion that it was more for the Popes profit to agree secretly with the Lutherans to which the Pope answered we would willingly yeelde vnto them in all thinges which concerne the soule so that they would suffer our Kingdome and Popedome to remaine safe and entire without diminishing The 59. Apologue whereby is shewed the vse of the Popes Excommunications THe Emperour after the death of the Lord Peter Loys tooke possession of Placentia as his owne Wherefore Pope Paul who was the Lord Loys his father being much displeased with it said to the Emperors Embassador that hee would haue him certifie his Maiesty that if he did not out of hand restore it to him hee would excommunicate him publish his excommunication in the world but the Embassador answered said vnto him As fathers to keep their little Children in feare and obedience are accustomed to shew them vizards and other strange sights to make them affraid in like maner your Holines to keep the Christians in feare and subiection haue found meanes to terrifie them by excommunicating Anathematizing and cursing them causing them to bee painted with fire and Diuells round about them and euen as little Children when they come to maturity and yeares of discretion do no more stand in feare of their Fathers Bug-beares So the Christians who thankes bée to God begin to open their eyes doe now little regard your excommunications wherefore may it please you to vnders tand that the Emperor is nothing affraid of any such vaine terrors and also that if you thunder and lighten with your Excommunications his Maiestie will thunder and lighten with his great Canons and Engins of warre The 60. Apologue shewing the cause that moueth the Pope to persecute them that beleeue in Christ. ONe asked Pope Iulius the third wherefore hée did so cruelly persecute the Christians who did beléeue that faith did iustifie and saue and hee answered that it was because he did feare least they would begin to beléeue in Iesus Christ and when the other asked of him what euill it was to belieue in Christ He answered that it would be his ruine and destruction for if they did once beléeue in Iesus Christ they would no more beléeue in him The 61. Apologue whereby is shewed that the Popish Absolutions are of none effect A Confessor demanded of his Penitent before hee had absolued him whether hée did beléeue that God had pardoned his sinnes And the Penitent answered that hée did not for said hée if I assuredly beléeued that God had pardoned me I would not haue come to you for your absolution then the Confessor said vnto him vnlesse thou doest stedfastly beléeue that God hath forgiuen thee I cannot absolue thée If said the Penitent I verily beléeue that I am pardoned doe I beléeue true or false thou dost beléeue that which is true said the Confessor Then said the Penitent you cannot absolue me vnlesse
of Iesus Christ reserued by his mother when hée was a little one and that hée had now brought it from Bethleem Hée had no sooner finished these things but all the Citty was full of the newes so that he was presently called before the Seigneury demanded whether it were true that hée had brought with him Moyses hornes and the breath of Christ and hée answered that it was true then they asked him if he were not ashamed to make men worship a paire of hornes If you said the Priest are not ashamed to make men worship and fall downe before the taile of the Asse on which Christ rode on Palme Sunday Dught I to thinke it a shame to make men worship these glorious hornes of Moyses dost thou beléeue said one of the Seigneurie that these are the very hornes of Moyses and that in this viol there is the very breath of Iesus Christ Then he answered and said I doe as verily beléeue that in this viol is the breath of Iesus Christ and that these are the hornes of Moyses as I beléeue that to be the milka of the Uirgin Mary which is in your viols which you say is hers making men reuerence and worship it as an holy Relique When hee had thus said they let him goe The 7. Apologue in which is shewed the folly of many who laugh when they should weepe and weepe when they should laugh POpe Iulius the third on the day of his coronation made a great feast especially for the Ladies of S. Peters Palace amongst which there was one who said wee women are the veriest fooles in the world and being asked why she answered because when Iesus Christ went to be crucified hee went to his soueraigne tryumph ouer sinne death and hell to the great glory of his heauenly father and to our saluation and perfect happinesse and then we wept and made great lamentation but now on the contrary at this mans coronation whence will procéede the great dishonour of God and the certaine ruine and destruction of many Christian soules we passe the time in feasts and merriment The 8 Apologue in which is shewed plainly that there is no Purgatory THere was in Rome an excellent and learned preacher of whom Pope Paul the third as of one in whom hee put great confidence demaunded on a time secretly whether he did belieue that the Pope had as men said so great power and authority ouer Purgatory that hee could thence set at liberty all the soules therein and cause that none should euer come thither againe but the preacher durst not bouldly speake his minde herein and would by no meanes say any thinge against his owne conscience and therefore remained in doubt Wherefore the Pope perceiuing it gaue him incouragement saying that he would haue him speake his mind freely without feare or rather respect Then seeing that the Pope desired to knowe the truth hee answered that he had no power at all ouer Purgatory Againe perceiuing that the Pope did greatly wonder at his words he said thus vnto him Holy Father had your Predecessors as great power and authority as you or had they lesse the Pope made answer that it was equall to his then replied the Preacher if they had as great power as you and by the same were able at any time to empty Purgatory as you suppose your selfe able to doe it is fit we belieue that among so many Popes some one was found so ful of charity to free al soules thence for euer The Pope answered that he could not tell that But said the Preacher I know this well that Iesus Christ the Soueraigne Priest hath of himselfe infinite charity and power and seeing that with his owne proper blood he hath truely and for euer purged the soules of his elect what need haue they of any other purgation wherefore I know not what that power is whereof you brag and boast so much The 9. Apologue by which is shewed the great ambition of the Popes Prelates the meanes they haue to come vnto dignity POpe Paul the third being asked of his kinsmen by what meanes hee did ascend to the Papall dignity answered and saide wee came vnto it by shewing that by the course of nature our time in this life could be but short and that we with patience had long expected it by exquisit practises by liberall promises by bragging what great friendes wee had to terrifie the Cardinalls if they did not elect vs to be Pope and finally by subtill sleights and a large conscience The 10. Apologue by which is in part discouered the auarice and superstition of the Priests and Monkes A Rich Seigneur of Paris being very sicke the thiefe of all the Religious in the citie went at seuerall times to visite him more indéede respecting the guiftes and rewards they hoped for at his hands then his soules safety And the Cordeliers exhorted him to call vpon and put his trust in S. Francis the Iacobins in S. Dominicke and the other in those Saints of whose order they were Mōks The Priest likewise exhorted him that hee would commend himselfe into the hands of S. Peter or of the Saint to whom their Church was didicated The Noble man perceiuing this diuersity caused them all to be sent for and to be assembled into his Chamber and then said thus vnto them When I first fell sicke I caused all the Phisitians in the City to come vnto mée and they could not agrée among themselues to giue me a medicine because that euery one of them to séeme more learned then the rest reproued all that the other would haue giuen mée counselled mee to take that which he would administer vnto mee Therefore calling them togither I said vnto them euery one of you would haue me take the Phisicke which he hath ordained for mée now if I should take all they would bring my body into worse estate then it is already if not kill mée and if I should resolue to take but one I know not which to choose wherefore you shall goe into this next chamber from whence you shall not come vntill you doe agrée to giue me a medicine approued of you all to be the best then the Phisitians knowing that long fasting would bring danger to their owne bodies did quickely consent and brought me physicke assuring mee that it was farre better and more agreable to my maladie then any they would before haue giuen mée Now in like manner you being come to medicine my soule are different among your selues for euery one of you doth exhort me to call vpon such a Saint and I by reason of my great sicknes and debelity of body am not able to make prayers perticulerly to so many Therefore goe you into the Phisitians Chamber and assure your selues that yée shall not come forth thence vntill you tell mee all with one accord to whom especially and onely I ought to commend my selfe for my soules safety Then the Priests and Monkes