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A69164 Saint Austins religion VVherein is manifestly proued out of the vvorks of that learned Father, that he dissented from popery, and agreed with the religion of the Protestants in all the maine points of faith and doctrine. Contrary to that impudent, erronious, and slanderous position of the bragging papists of our times, who falsely affirme, we had no religion before the times of Luther and Caluine. Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632. 1624 (1624) STC 6059; ESTC S120943 31,927 42

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SAINT AVSTINS RELIGION VVHEREIN IS MAnifestly proued out of the Works of that Learned Father that he dissented from Popery and agreed with the Religion of the Protestants in all the maine Points of Faith and Doctrine Contrary to that Impudent Erronious and Slanderous Position of the bragging Papists of our Times who falsely affirme we had no Religion before the Times of Luther and Caluine LONDON Printed by A. M. and are to be Sold in Saint Dunstons Church-yard 1624. To all seduced Papistes SVch is the grosse ignorance of most Papists in these their times that they neither know what they do or should beleeue much like the Colliar that told the deuil he beleeued as the Romane Church did Being asked againe what that faith was answered the same faith that hee beleeued in Surely the deuils gaue better testimony of their faith and knowledge and the Apostle witnesseth it and yet the Popish Prelates will haue their people learne no Creed but this which is to beleeue they know not what No maru●ll then that the Romish Impostors haue taken away the key of knowledge nay they iudge it a meere inuention of the Deuill that lay men should reade the Scripture and they say that some Ploughmen for reading of it were iustly possessed of the Deuill and therefore ignorance of the word is best And as Hosius saith To know nothing is to know all things and instead of Bibles they haue inuented Images and Crucifixes wherwith too many Dames in these conniuing dayes adorne their shamelesse breasts and Masse bookes commonly imprinted with a mixture of red letters to signifie the die of their Religion but as for the Scripture they are farre more dangerous then the ribaldry of Terence the villany of Machiauel or the fabulous lies of their Legends being the maine and principall cause of all heresies and the very beholding of them is enough to infect silly Catholickes therefore much lesse may they read them and if any be permitted to study the Scripture it must bee such a part thereof as hath bin hallowed with their Expurgatory glosse those persons must be such which the Confessor knowes to be stiffe and obstinate Papists vpon whom that iudgement is already fallen They shall heare with their eares but shall not vnderstand they shall see with their eyes but not perceiue And all this is not sufficient but they must haue the permission of the Inquisitor the parish Priest too this is the Canon of the Conuenticle of Trent commended by the Rhemists seconded by Molanus Bellarmine Hosius Sanders and others And now you poore seduced soules why do your holy Fathers constrain you to beleeue ye know not what and restraine you from the knowledge of Scripture whence your faith if it be sound must be truly collected and the ignorance wherof is the root of all error the cause of vnbeliefe is it not because they would haue your soules to depend on their lips vnder whose tongue is the poyson of asps is it not because they would carry their hellish positions practises as in a cloud out of your sight Is it not because they know that the splendor of Gods word wil soone disperse that Egyptian darknesse they keepe you in is it not because like Sathan they would take you at their pleasure But yet such is the impudency of your false prophets that notwithstanding they will tell you that they teach nothing without the speciall warrant of Scripture and that all the Fathers were Papistes and helde their opinions both which are their owne fictions and false For the first they will neither abide the triall of our faith by the Word of God which was the reason that Fisher in his last Conference neither could nor would deny that the Protestants professed the same faith which Christ and his Apostles taught nor yet of their owne religon and the reason is because it wholly depends vpon the Traditions of the new Romish Church which is confirmed by Gregorie the thirteenth where hee sayth Let men receiue with more reuerence what the Pope teacheth then the Scriptures And Canus confesseth that most poynts of the Romane Faith are not contained in the Scripture And Andradius speakes plainly that many poynts of their Faith must needes reele and totter if they were not supported by the helpe of Tradition and this is the cause your Masse-priestes will not endure that the Resolution of the now depending Controuersies betweene vs and them should be by the authoritie of the Scriptures but runne from them to the Fathers from them to the Church fromthence to the Pope from him to Councels and from these to their owne Iudgements Now for the second If the Fathers were Papistes as they say why doe their chiefe Doctors condemne and contemne them Bellarmine saith That Saint Origen was burnt in Hell with Arrius and Nestorius and that Tertullian was a Montanist Alphonsus that he will beleeue Anacletus better then Saint Ierome or Saint Augustine Tollet the Iesuite sayeth That hee will beleeue neither Augustine nor Ambrose nor Chrysostome nor Theodoret nor Photius the like ●steeme they haue of Cyprian Gregorie Beda and the rest i● in any poynt they make against them and their doctrine And no maruell for the Doctors of Paris professe boldly that they will not beleeue either Gratian or Aquinas or Lumbard or Anse●me or Hugo because they were erronious Bellarmine againe condemneth Scotus Durand Gabriel Ariminensis Capreolus and Marsi●ius in the poynt of Free will and yet all these were Popish Writers famous and most eminent in their times Nay which is more worthy obseruation though they teach that the Scriptures and Fathers must haue their authoritie from the Pope and that wee ought to stand rather to his iudgement then the iudgement of the whole world and that when Questions cannot be fitly decided by the Doctors then it is free for him to interpose his Authoritie that he is aboue Church and Councels and that hee may make that to bee the meaning of things which indeed is not as they affirme yet notwithstanding they will not submit themselues in opinion and iudgement to the Pope and therefore the Venetians boldly published Conclusions against Paulus Quintus and his Supremacie Catharinus holds it vnmeet that wise men should bind themselues to the iudgement of the Pope seeing hee is not alwayes assisted by the Spirit of God Almaine saith That it is not necessary to beleeue what the Pope determineth Bellarmine and Caietan hold it lawfull to resist him Franciscus Victoria that it were good a Councell would bridle him and Bozius saith he may be an Her●tike and both teach and write Heresies and many learned Papistes haue written against his Decrees in Councels These things being apparent and true if we may beleeue your owne Writers here