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in_o flesh_n to_o preach_v though_o he_o use_v many_o and_o sufficient_a argument_n to_o draw_v man_n unto_o he_o and_o believe_v the_o mystery_n reveal_v by_o he_o as_o in_o the_o next_o point_n shall_v be_v show_v yet_o use_v he_o the_o same_o course_n notwithstanding_o that_o have_v be_v use_v before_o for_o neither_o appear_v he_o to_o the_o whole_a world_n as_o he_o may_v have_v do_v by_o his_o divinity_n and_o omnipotency_n but_o to_o those_o of_o jewry_n only_o nor_o there_o to_o all_o nor_o do_v he_o work_v miracle_n in_o every_o place_n but_o where_o he_o think_v expedient_a nor_o when_o he_o rise_v again_o from_o death_n which_o be_v a_o point_n principal_o in_o this_o matter_n to_o be_v consider_v do_v he_o appear_v to_o all_o man_n or_o public_o in_o the_o street_n of_o jerusalem_n as_o he_o may_v have_v do_v and_o thereby_o have_v make_v his_o resurrection_n clear_a and_o out_o of_o controversy_n but_o he_o appear_v only_o to_o his_o apostle_n and_o disciple_n which_o he_o 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