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part_n embrace_v and_o prefer_v before_o all_o other_o carolus_n molinaeus_n in_o nov_n testam_fw-la part_n 30._o signify_v his_o no_o less_o answerable_a like_n thereof_o say_v aegerrimè_fw-la à _fw-la vulgari_fw-la consuetaque_fw-la lectione_n recedo_fw-la quam_fw-la etiam_fw-la enixè_fw-la defendere_fw-la soleo_fw-la i_o can_v very_o hardly_o depart_v from_o the_o vulgar_a and_o accustom_a read_v which_o also_o i_o be_o accustom_v earnest_o to_o defend_v in_o so_o much_o as_o he_o profess_v 17._o profess_v see_v molinaeus_n in_o luc._n 17._o to_o prefer_v the_o vulgar_a edition_n before_o erasmus_n bucer_n bullinger_n brentius_n the_o tigurine_a translation_n also_o before_o john_n calvin_n etiam_fw-la joannis_n calvini_n &_o omnibus_fw-la aliis_fw-la and_o all_o other_o whereto_o may_v be_v add_v the_o like_o further_a answerable_a commendation_n thereof_o give_v by_o that_o famous_a protestant_a writer_n conradus_n pelicanus_n who_o in_o praefat_fw-la in_o psalterium_fw-la anni_fw-la 1534._o say_v tanta_fw-la dexteritate_fw-la erudition_n &_o fide_fw-la hebraica_n quoad_fw-la sensum_fw-la concordare_fw-la deprehendimus_fw-la vulgatam_fw-la editionem_fw-la psalterii_fw-la ut_fw-la eruditissimum_fw-la pariterque_fw-la piissimum_fw-la &_o verè_fw-la prophetali_fw-la spiritu_fw-la fuisse_fw-la interpretem_fw-la graecum_fw-la &_o latinum_fw-la non_fw-la dubitem_fw-la and_o
puritan_n for_o seditious_a by_o d._n wilts_n in_o his_o odedience_n or_o ecclesiastical_a union_n pag._n 6._o prope_fw-la initium_fw-la and_o knox_n allege_v in_o proof_n of_o his_o own_o seditious_a opinion_n calvin_n and_o certain_a other_o minister_n then_o reside_v at_o geneva_n teach_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o subject_n to_o reform_v religion_n when_o prince_n will_v not_o yea_o rather_o than_o fail_v even_o by_o force_n of_o arm_n and_o according_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o acknowledge_v thatthe_a protestant_n of_o geneva_n do_v depose_v their_o liege_n lord_n and_o prince_n from_o his_o temporal_a right_n there_o from_o which_o yet_o to_o this_o present_a he_o be_v keep_v by_o strong_a force_n debar_v albeit_o he_o be_v by_o right_a of_o succession_n the_o temporal_a lord_n and_o owner_n of_o that_o city_n and_o territory_n 39_o his_o intolerable_a contempt_n of_o the_o ancient_a holy_a father_n will_v appear_v many_o way_n when_o we_o shall_v come_v to_o prove_v that_o protestant_n confess_v the_o father_n to_o stand_v for_o we_o and_o for_o that_o cause_n they_o reject_v they_o here_o we_o will_v only_o set_v down_o his_o tax_v the_o father_n for_o believe_v and_o teach_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n t._n mass_n brereley_o tract_n 3._o sect_n 1._o under_o the_o letter_n t._n a_o point_n most_o oppose_v by_o protestant_n and_o most_o dear_a to_o we_o catholic_n in_o these_o word_n lib._n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la reformatione_fw-la extant_a in_o tract_n theologic_n calvini_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 389._o a._n fine_a &_o b._n initio_fw-la solemn_a est_fw-la nebulonibus_fw-la istis_fw-la mean_v we_o catholic_n quiequid_fw-la vitiosum_fw-la in_o patribus_fw-la legitur_fw-la corradere_fw-la etc._n etc._n cùm_fw-la ergo_fw-la objiciunt_fw-la locum_fw-la malachiae_fw-la de_fw-la missae_fw-la sacrificio_fw-la ab_fw-la irenao_n exponi_fw-la oblationem_fw-la melchisedech_n sic_fw-la tractari_fw-la ab_fw-la athanasio_fw-la ambrosio_n augustino_n arnobio_n breviter_fw-la responsum_fw-la sit_fw-la eosdem_fw-la illos_fw-la scriptores_fw-la alibi_fw-la quoque_fw-la panem_fw-la interpretari_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la ita_fw-la ridiculè_fw-la ut_fw-la dissentire_fw-la nos_fw-la cogat_fw-la ratio_fw-la &_o veritas_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o institution_n print_v argentorati_fw-la 1539._o pag._n 350._o ante_fw-la medium_n and_o after_o the_o other_o edition_n lib._n 4._o instit_fw-la cap._n 18._o sect_n 11._o he_o say_v veteres_n quoque_fw-la illos_fw-la video_fw-la hanc_fw-la memoriam_fw-la aliò_fw-la detorsisse_fw-la quam_fw-la institutioni_fw-la domini_fw-la conveniebat_fw-la quod_fw-la nescio_fw-la quam_fw-la repetitae_fw-la aut_fw-la saltem_fw-la renovatae_fw-la imolationis_fw-la faciem_fw-la eorum_fw-la coena_fw-la prae_fw-la se_fw-la ferehat_fw-la etc._n etc._n imitati_fw-la sunt_fw-la enim_fw-la propius_fw-la judaicum_fw-la sacrificandi_fw-la morem_fw-la quam_fw-la aut_fw-la ordinaverat_fw-la christus_fw-la aut_fw-la evangelii_n ratio_fw-la ferebat_fw-la and_o see_v brereley_o tract_n 1._o sect_n 3._o subdivis_fw-la 3._o post_n 12._o where_o he_o express_o charge_v the_o father_n with_o forge_v a_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n without_o his_o commandment_n and_o adulterate_v the_o supper_n with_o add_v of_o sacrifice_n thus_o calvin_n in_o omnes_fw-la pauli_n epist_n in_o hebr._n c._n 7._o ver_fw-la 9_o pag._n 924._o say_v quo_fw-la magis_fw-la tot_fw-la veteres_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la doctores_fw-la hac_fw-la opinion_n occupatos_fw-la fuisse_fw-la miror_fw-la etc._n etc._n certè_fw-la ut_fw-la error_n errorem_fw-la trahere_fw-la solet_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la coena_fw-la nullo_n ejus_fw-la mandato_fw-la finxissent_fw-la adeoque_fw-la coenam_fw-la adulterassent_fw-la addito_fw-la sacrificio_fw-la colores_fw-la postea_fw-la hinc_fw-la inde_fw-la accersere_fw-la conatisunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la errorem_fw-la suum_fw-la fucarent_fw-la and_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la reformatione_fw-la extant_a in_o tract_n theologic_n calvini_n pag._n 389._o b._n fine_a he_o further_o say_v veteres_n excusandi_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la quatenus_fw-la scilicet_fw-la ipsos_fw-la apparet_fw-la à _fw-la puro_fw-la &_o gennino_fw-la christi_fw-la instituto_fw-la deflexisse_fw-la nam_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o hunc_fw-la finem_fw-la celebranda_fw-la sit_fw-la coena_fw-la ut_fw-la sacrificio_fw-la christi_fw-la communicemus_fw-la eo_fw-la non_fw-la contenti_fw-la oblationem_fw-la quoque_fw-la addiderunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la auctarium_fw-la vitiosum_fw-la esse_fw-la dico_fw-la etc._n etc._n 40._o the_o doctrine_n and_o say_n of_o calvin_n and_o calvinist_n whereby_o he_o avoidable_o make_v god_n the_o author_n of_o sin_n in_o we_o be_v so_o know_v and_o so_o strong_o impugn_a by_o protestant_n themselves_o as_o i_o need_v not_o be_v long_o in_o allege_v they_o particular_o and_o at_o large_a but_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o brereley_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 10._o subd_v 14._o where_o he_o will_v find_v exact_o cite_v these_o and_o other_o like_a doctrine_n 6._o doctrine_n calvin_n instit_fw-la l._n 3_o cap._n 23._o sect_n 6._o that_o god_n do_v ordain_v by_o his_o counsel_n and_o decree_n that_o among_o man_n some_o be_v bear_v destine_v to_o certain_a damnation_n from_o their_o mother_n womb_n and_o that_o the_o decree_n of_o god_n in_o this_o behalf_n be_v only_o because_o it_o so_o please_v he_o without_o any_o respect_n have_v to_o their_o work_n either_o good_a or_o ill_n that_o god_n excit_v the_o wicked_a will_n of_o one_o thief_n to_o kill_v another_o guide_v his_o hand_n and_o weapon_n just_o enforce_v the_o will_n of_o the_o thief_n that_o god_n not_o only_o permitmit_v but_o lead_v into_o temptation_n even_o with_o a_o active_a power_n and_o not_o permissive_a only_o and_o do_v true_o and_o by_o his_o determinate_a purpose_n harden_v make_v blind_a and_o incline_v the_o heart_n to_o evil_n that_o god_n harden_v pharaoh_n not_o speak_v hyperbolical_o but_o true_o and_o harden_v he_o that_o so_o he_o may_v resist_v that_o god_n will_v that_o pharaoh_n shall_v not_o obey_v his_o commandment_n yea_o he_o wrought_v in_o he_o that_o he_o shall_v resist_v it_o nor_o can_v he_o do_v otherwise_o that_o god_n work_v effectal_o in_o our_o sin_n that_o the_o fall_n of_o the_o ten_o tribe_n he_o call_v his_o work_n that_o david_n adultery_n be_v the_o proper_a work_n of_o god_n as_o be_v the_o conversion_n of_o paul_n that_o god_n pronounce_v absalon_n incestuous_a pollution_n of_o his_o father_n bed_n to_o be_v his_o own_o work_n and_o that_o in_o our_o sin_v neither_o satan_n nor_o we_o be_v author_n but_o as_o the_o instrument_n of_o god_n that_o whatsoever_o thing_n god_n do_v foresee_v and_o he_o forsee_v all_o sin_n the_o same_o he_o do_v will_n decree_n and_o ordain_v to_o be_v do_v that_o therefore_o he_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o popish_a censurer_n think_v that_o he_o idle_o permit_v which_o doctrine_n be_v so_o absurd_a that_o even_o calvin_n confess_v it_o for_o 3._o for_o calvin_n instit_fw-la l._n 1._o cap._n 18._o sect_n 3._o inexplicable_a how_o god_n may_v be_v say_v to_o will_v sin_n which_o he_o himself_o forbid_v to_o be_v do_v and_o sundry_a protestant_n of_o great_a estimation_n do_v thereupon_o reject_v and_o condemn_v they_o express_o also_o for_o that_o cause_n charge_v their_o author_n with_o teach_v that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o sin_n from_o whence_o and_o from_o their_o other_o foresay_a principle_n of_o advance_v of_o only_a faith_n extenuate_v good_a work_n and_o their_o other_o like_a doctrine_n have_v spring_v as_o from_o a_o hydra_n the_o sect_n of_o the_o libertine_n who_o upon_o the_o very_a foresay_a ground_n and_o colour_n affirmat_fw-la colour_n calvin_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 540._o b._n paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a say_v of_o their_o say_a principal_a man_n contestatur_fw-la sibi_fw-la long_o aliam_fw-la esse_fw-la mentem_fw-la seque_fw-la dâum_fw-la mâli_fw-la authorem_fw-la facere_fw-la nolle_fw-la affirmat_fw-la deny_v nevertheless_o verbal_o as_o calvin_n do_v god_n to_o be_v author_n of_o sin_n and_o verbal_o also_o require_v himself_o require_v calvin_n ibid._n pag_n 548._o a._n prope_fw-la finem_fw-la say_v of_o their_o contest_v in_o this_o case_n as_o catholic_n say_v of_o calvin_n himself_n contestetur_fw-la quantum_fw-la vol._n t_z se_fw-la licentiam_fw-la peccand_v praebere_fw-la nolle_fw-la hoc_fw-la enim_fw-la nihil_fw-la all_o ud_fw-la est_fw-la quà m_fw-la inane_fw-la nimisque_fw-la ridiculum_fw-la simolationis_fw-la velum_fw-la obtendere_fw-la quoniam_fw-la ipsi_fw-la nihil_fw-la est_fw-la cùm_fw-la deus_fw-la omne_fw-la facere_fw-la putatur_fw-la may_v not_o thâse_a very_a word_n of_o calvin_n against_o they_o be_v return_v apt_o against_o calvin_n himself_o integrity_n of_o life_n and_o manner_n have_v set_v abroad_o to_o the_o world_n by_o their_o publish_a fine_a publish_a concern_v their_o sundry_a publish_a writing_n see_v calvin_n tract_n theologic_n pag._n 510._o a._n it_o med_n &_o pag._n 532._o a._n fine_a writing_n store_v med_n store_v see_v their_o frequent_a allegation_n of_o scripture_n in_o calvin_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la 533_o 534_o 535_o 536_o etc._n etc._n and_o see_v in_o calvin_n their_o allegation_n of_o these_o very_a scripture_n which_o calvin_n and_o other_o protestant_n usual_o allege_v in_o
loss_n in_o all_o kind_n which_o if_o we_o do_v undergo_v for_o external_a profession_n of_o that_o faith_n which_o we_o do_v not_o inward_o believe_v to_o be_v true_a we_o shall_v deserve_v rather_o to_o be_v beg_v for_o fool_n then_o persecute_v for_o our_o religion_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n every_o catholic_n have_v this_o comfort_n that_o he_o be_v safe_a even_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o a_o adversary_n if_o he_o be_v not_o a_o foolish_a dissembler_n which_o will_v be_v cause_n of_o damnation_n in_o a_o protestant_n or_o any_o other_o even_o the_o profession_n of_o a_o truth_n believe_v to_o be_v false_a be_v a_o sin_n but_o i_o return_v to_o say_v it_o be_v impossible_a for_o any_o roman_a catholic_n to_o be_v safe_a upon_o what_o condition_n soever_o if_o we_o err_v in_o any_o one_o fundamental_a article_n of_o faith_n 7._o with_o d._n potter_n agree_v m._n william_n chillingworth_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v the_o religion_n of_o protestant_n a_o safe_a way_n to_o salvation_n for_o whereas_o charity_n mantain_v part_n 1._o pag._n 15._o n._n 13._o say_v since_o d._n potter_n will_v be_v force_v to_o grant_v that_o there_o can_v be_v assign_v no_o visible_a true_a church_n of_o christ_n distinct_a from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o such_o church_n as_o agree_v with_o she_o when_o luther_n first_o appear_v i_o desire_v he_o to_o declare_v whether_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o she_o have_v not_o err_v fundamental_o because_o every_o such_o error_n destroy_v the_o nature_n and_o be_v of_o a_o church_n and_o so_o our_o saviour_n christ_n shall_v have_v have_v not_o visible_o church_n on_o earth_n to_o these_o word_n which_o he_o think_v fit_a to_o set_v down_o very_o imperfect_o he_o answer_v pag._n 16._o n._n 20._o in_o this_o manner_n i_o say_v in_o our_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n fundamental_a it_o do_v follow_v for_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o there_o be_v then_o no_o church_n distinct_a from_o the_o roman_a than_o it_o must_v be_v either_o because_o there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o which_o we_o deny_v or_o because_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o whole_a church_n which_o we_o also_o deny_v or_o because_o she_o be_v part_n of_o the_o whole_a which_o we_o grant_v and_o if_o she_o be_v a_o true_a part_n of_o the_o church_n than_o she_o retain_v those_o truth_n which_o be_v simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o hold_v no_o error_n which_o be_v inevitable_o and_o unpardonable_o destructive_a of_o it_o for_o this_o be_v precise_o necessary_a to_o constitute_v any_o man_n or_o any_o church_n a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n in_o our_o sense_n therefore_o of_o the_o word_n fundamental_a i_o hope_v she_o err_v not_o fundamental_o but_o in_o your_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n i_o fear_v she_o do_v that_o be_v she_o hold_v some_o thing_n to_o be_v divine_a revelation_n which_o be_v not_o something_o not_o to_o be_v which_o be_v he_o have_v speak_v so_o clear_o and_o full_o in_o favour_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o not_o only_o affirm_v but_o prove_v that_o she_o do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n that_o i_o need_v not_o say_v one_o word_n to_o ponder_v his_o word_n or_o declare_v the_o force_n of_o they_o pag._n 7._o n._n 3._o he_o express_o approve_v the_o say_n of_o d._n potter_n that_o both_o side_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o both_o side_n agree_v in_o more_o point_n than_o be_v simple_o and_o indispensable_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o differ_v only_o in_o such_o as_o be_v not_o precise_o necessary_a therefore_o do_v we_o infer_v catholic_n believe_v all_o that_o be_v precise_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o more_o but_o we_o never_o yield_v so_o much_o to_o you_o protestant_n pag._n 85._o n._n 89._o he_o confess_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o pag._n 16._o n._n 20._o he_o say_v if_o she_o be_v a_o true_a part_n of_o the_o church_n than_o she_o retain_v those_o truth_n which_o be_v simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o hold_v no_o error_n which_o be_v unevitable_o and_o unpardonable_o destructive_a of_o it_o for_o this_o be_v precise_o necessary_a to_o constitute_v any_o man_n or_o any_o church_n a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n pag._n 163._o n._n 56._o he_o say_v from_o scripture_n we_o collect_v our_o hope_n that_o the_o truth_n she_o the_o roman_a church_n retain_v and_o the_o practice_n of_o they_o may_v prove_v a_o antidote_n to_o she_o against_o the_o error_n which_o she_o maintain_v in_o such_o person_n as_o in_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n follow_v this_o absalon_n these_o point_n of_o christianity_n which_o have_v in_o they_o the_o nature_n of_o antidote_n against_o the_o poison_n of_o all_o sin_n and_o error_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n though_o otherwise_o much_o corrupt_v still_o retain_v therefore_o we_o hope_v she_o err_v not_o fundamental_o but_o still_o remain_v a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n but_o this_o can_v be_v no_o warrant_n to_o we_o to_o think_v with_o she_o in_o all_o thing_n see_v the_o very_a same_o scripture_n which_o put_v we_o in_o hope_n she_o err_v not_o fundamental_o mark_n how_o he_o profess_v to_o learn_v out_o of_o scripture_n that_o we_o err_v not_o fundamental_o assure_v we_o that_o in_o many_o thing_n and_o those_o of_o great_a moment_n she_o err_v very_o grievous_o and_o these_o error_n though_o to_o they_o that_o believe_v they_o we_o hope_v they_o will_v not_o be_v pernicious_a yet_o the_o profess_v of_o they_o against_o conscience_n can_v not_o but_o bring_v we_o certain_a damnation_n therefore_o the_o point_n in_o which_o we_o differ_v from_o protestant_n be_v acknowledge_v not_o to_o be_v fundamental_a and_o in_o other_o point_n profess_v nothing_o against_o our_o conscience_n we_o be_v safe_a by_o his_o own_o confession_n if_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v as_o we_o profess_v we_o be_v no_o roman_a catholic_n in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o say_v express_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la we_o hope_v the_o roman_a church_n do_v not_o err_v in_o fundamental_n yea_o he_o say_v line_n 33._o perhaps_o she_o do_v not_o err_v damnable_o the_o contrary_a whereof_o he_o affirm_v so_o often_o his_o example_n of_o absalon_n be_v very_o ill_o apply_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o do_v not_o rebel_v from_o protestant_n but_o they_o against_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o mother_n of_o all_o christian_n more_o sacrilegious_o than_o absalon_n behave_v himself_o wicked_o towards_o his_o father_n pag._n 404._o n._n 29._o he_o approve_v dr._n potter_n say_v pag._n 79_o which_o i_o cite_v above_o that_o the_o roman_a religion_n be_v safe_a that_o be_v not_o damnable_a to_o some_o such_o as_o believe_v what_o they_o profess_v and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o say_v we_o may_v hope_v that_o she_o retain_v those_o truth_n which_o be_v simple_o absolute_o and_o indispensable_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n pag._n 401._o n._n 7._o we_o approve_v those_o fundamental_a and_o simple_o necessary_a truth_n which_o you_o retain_v by_o which_o some_o good_a soul_n among_o you_o may_v be_v save_v but_o abhor_v your_o many_o superstition_n and_o heresy_n the_o truth_n you_o retain_v be_v good_a and_o as_o we_o hope_v sufficient_a to_o bring_v good_a ignorant_a soul_n among_o you_o to_o salvation_n yet_o be_v not_o to_o be_v seek_v for_o in_o the_o conventicle_n of_o papist_n if_o any_o soul_n may_v be_v save_v in_o our_o religion_n it_o be_v clear_a we_o hold_v not_o any_o fundamental_a error_n with_o which_o no_o soul_n can_v be_v save_v pag._n 277._o n._n 61._o he_o say_v the_o simple_a defect_n of_o some_o truth_n profitable_a only_o and_o not_o simple_o necessary_a may_v consist_v with_o salvation_n see_v therefore_o he_o have_v so_o often_o confess_v that_o we_o err_v not_o in_o fundamental_a point_n our_o error_n in_o some_o truth_n profitable_a only_o and_o not_o fundamental_a may_v consist_v with_o salvation_n how_o then_o do_v he_o say_v to_o catholic_n pag._n 401._o n._n 27._o as_o for_o our_o free_n you_o from_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o yield_v you_o salvation_n neither_o he_o dr._n potter_n nor_o any_o other_o protestant_n be_v guilty_a of_o it_o pag._n 219._o n._n 50._o speak_v of_o protestant_n he_o say_v they_o do_v not_o differ_v at_o all_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n if_o you_o take_v the_o word_n in_o the_o high_a sense_n and_o meanby_o matter_n of_o faith_n such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o be_v believe_v or_o not_o to_o be_v believe_v now_o you_o know_v well_o that_o in_o point_n of_o great_a moment_n which_o catholic_n believe_v against_o some_o protestant_n other_o protestant_n stand_v for_o we_o against_o their_o pretend_a brethren_n and_o therefore_o he_o must_v either_o say_v that_o we_o believe_v all_o such_o doctrine_n as_o be_v absolute_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n or_o
supremacy_n and_o be_v so_o conformable_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o he_o be_v make_v etc._n make_v osiander_n in_o epitome_n etc._n etc._n cent_n 12._o pag._n 309._o &_o simon_n de_fw-fr voyon_n in_o his_o catalogue_n etc._n etc._n abbot_n of_o clairevaux_n be_v also_o fautores_fw-la also_o ofiander_n abi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 309._o fine_a say_v centum_fw-la &_o quadradraginta_fw-la monafteriorum_fw-la author_n fulsse_n creditur_fw-la and_o danaeus_n in_o primae_fw-la partis_fw-la altera_fw-la parte_fw-la contra_fw-la bellarminum_fw-la pag._n 940._o say_v hieronymus_n &_o bernardus_n suerunt_fw-la monachi_fw-la &_o istius_fw-la erroris_fw-la authores_fw-la &_o fautores_fw-la author_n of_o many_o monastery_n both_o in_o france_n and_o flanders_n insomuch_o as_o our_o adversary_n allege_v he_o to_o we_o do_v call_v he_o sanctus_n vester_fw-ge fine_a vester_fw-ge gomarus_n in_o speculo_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la pag._n 23._o fine_a our_o saint_n and_o virum_fw-la and_o whitaker_n in_o respon_n ad_fw-la rat_n campianiâ_n âat_a 7._o pag._n 105._o ante_fw-la med_n say_v bernardus_n quem_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la vesâia_fw-la multis_fw-la annis_fw-la unum_fw-la tulit_fw-la piuni_fw-la virum_fw-la a_o man_n bring_v forth_o by_o our_o church_n who_o in_o regard_n of_o christian_a communion_n be_v dear_o initio_fw-la dear_o osiander_n abide_v see_v his_o word_n heretofore_o in_o the_o four_o consideration_n num_fw-la 1._o sine_fw-la in_o the_o margânt_n at_o the_o figure_n 3._o initio_fw-la familiar_a to_o muiachias_n who_o our_o adversary_n reject_v for_o a_o confess_a catholic_n or_o papist_n as_o also_o the_o etc._n the_o the_o cârturists_n cârt_n 12._o col_fw-fr 1637._o l_o n._n 45._o âo_o say_v therefore_o of_o s._n bernard_n coâuât_fw-la deum_fw-la mâozim_n ad_fw-la novissimum_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la suae_fw-la articulum_fw-la &_o col_fw-fr 1638._o lin_v 16._o they_o say_v far_o of_o he_o acerrimus_fw-la propugnator_fw-la sedis_fw-la antichristi_fw-la suir_n etc._n etc._n centurist_n do_v for_o such_o in_o most_o plain_a term_n reject_v s._n bernard_n and_o yet_o this_o his_o know_a religion_n notwithstanding_o our_o adversary_n do_v acknowledge_v he_o for_o 126._o for_o whitaker_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la pag._n 369._o paulò_fw-la post_fw-la med_n say_v ego_fw-la quidem_fw-la bernardum_fw-la verè_fw-la fuisse_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ex_fw-la stimo_fw-la and_o see_v the_o like_a in_o whitaker_n against_o m._n william_n reynolds_n pag._n 125_o &_o 126._o a_o true_a saint_n med_n saint_n osiander_n cent_n 12._o pag._n 309._o post_n med_n a_o very_a good_a man_n 13._o man_n see_v this_o in_o pasqud_n return_v into_o england_n pag._n 8._o &_o 13._o a_o good_a father_n and_o one_o of_o the_o lamp_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o like_a manner_n s._n bede_n who_o live_v about_o 900_o year_n since_o be_v so_o evident_o of_o our_o religion_n that_o our_o adversary_n osiander_n therefore_o say_v of_o he_o initio_fw-la he_o osiander_n in_o epitome_n etc._n etc._n cent_n 8._o l._n 2._o c._n 3._o pag._n 58._o initio_fw-la beda_n be_v wrap_v in_o all_o the_o popish_a error_n wherein_o we_o at_o this_o day_n dissent_v from_o the_o pope_n for_o he_o admire_v and_o embrace_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n the_o popish_a mass_n invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n which_o thing_n appear_v also_o yet_o more_o undoubted_o to_o omit_v his_o evident_a writing_n by_o his_o 129._o his_o see_v m._n fox_n act._n mon._n print_v 1576._o pag._n 128_o &_o 129._o confess_a credit_n and_o estimation_n have_v with_o the_o pope_n of_o that_o age_n who_o m._n fulk_n term_v etc._n term_v m._n fulk_n in_o his_o retentive_a against_o bristol_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 278._o post_n med_n recite_v bede_n '_o s_o authority_n say_v the_o last_o testimony_n out_o of_o beda_n who_o live_v under_o the_o tyranny_n of_o antichrist_n i_o will_v not_o stand_v upon_o m._n sanders_n may_v have_v great_a store_n of_o such_o etc._n etc._n antichrist_n and_o yet_o be_v he_o all_o this_o notwithstanding_o acknowledge_v by_o our_o adversary_n to_o have_v be_v med_n be_v osiander_n cent_n 8._o pag._n 58._o ante_fw-la med_n a_o good_a man_n b._n man_n m._n cowper_n in_o his_o chronicle_n at_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 734._o fol._n 171._o b._n renown_v in_o all_o the_o world_n for_o his_o learning_n and_o godly_a life_n for_o which_o he_o be_v also_o privilege_v with_o the_o surname_n of_o med_n of_o of_o this_o title_n see_v holinshead_n be_v chronicle_n at_o the_o year_n 735._o and_o m._n cowper_n in_o his_o chronicle_n at_o the_o year_n 724._o fol._n 168._o b._n and_o m._n fox_n act._n mon._n print_v 1576._o pag._n 128._o b._n &_o vide_fw-la 129._o a._n &_o oecolampadius_n in_o libro_fw-la epist_n zuinglii_n &_o oecolampadii_fw-la pag._n 654._o post_n med_n reverend_n and_o by_o d._n humphrey_n special_o register_v among_o initio_fw-la among_o humh_o fredus_fw-la in_fw-la jesuitismi_fw-la part_n 2._o rat_n 3._o pag._n 326._o initio_fw-la the_o godly_a man_n raise_v up_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n hitherto_o also_o appertain_v the_o like_a example_n of_o gregory_n and_o austin_n both_o of_o they_o acknowledge_v for_o e._n for_o hereof_o see_v brereley_o tract_n 1._o sect_n 2._o aâd_n 2._o 3._o e._n confess_v popish_a catholic_n and_o yet_o be_v one_o of_o they_o call_v by_o our_o adversary_n med_n adversary_n m._n godwin_n in_o his_o catalogue_n of_o bishop_n pag._n 3._o ante_fw-la med_n that_o bless_a and_o holy_a fatner_n s._n gregory_n and_o the_o other_o med_n other_o m._n godwin_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 7._o initio_fw-la &_o aunt_n med_n s._n austin_n our_o apostle_n whereunto_o to_o omit_v other_o may_v be_v add_v the_o forementioned_a example_n of_o your_o highness_n dear_a mother_n who_o undoubted_a salvation_n her_o know_a religion_n notwithstanding_o be_v even_o in_o that_o opposition_n of_o time_n by_o the_o learned_a adversary_n as_o before_o z._n before_o see_v brereley_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o 6._o section_n of_o tract_n 1._o at_o z._n public_o acknowledge_v what_o now_o can_v our_o adversary_n answer_v unto_o these_o confess_a example_n be_v there_o 1.17_o there_o james_n 1.17_o with_o god_n variableness_n or_o 1.17_o or_o ephes_n 6.9_o &_o deut._n 10.17_o &_o ro._n 2.11_o &_o 1_o pet._n 1.17_o any_o acception_n of_o person_n or_o be_v he_o 23.19_o he_o num._n 23.19_o as_o the_o son_n of_o man_n that_o he_o shall_v change_v so_o as_o one_o and_o the_o same_o religion_n which_o be_v before_o in_o they_o holy_a shall_v now_o be_v in_o we_o damnable_a and_o thus_o much_o brief_o concern_v certain_a undoubted_a example_n of_o this_o kind_n 3._o three_o to_o make_v this_o point_n more_o evident_a as_o yet_o by_o the_o like_a confess_v answerable_a practice_n of_o almost_o all_o the_o protestant_n reform_v church_n whereas_o they_o hold_v that_o 25._o that_o in_o the_o proposition_n and_o principle_n dispute_v in_o the_o university_n of_o geneva_n pag._n 166._o 25._o the_o sacrament_n be_v only_o to_o be_v administer_v to_o those_o that_o be_v take_v for_o know_a member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o no_o man_n can_v be_v without_o faith_n because_o that_o 11.6_o that_o hebr._n 11.6_o without_o faith_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o please_v god_n for_o which_o cause_n they_o teach_v concern_v infant_n who_o in_o their_o opinion_n have_v not_o initio_fw-la not_o that_o child_n have_v not_o faith_n be_v affirm_v by_o m._n cartwright_n in_o m._n whitgift_n defence_n pag._n 611._o and_o by_o beza_n in_o respon_n ad_fw-la acta_fw-la colloquii_fw-la montisbelgar_a part_n 2._o pag._n 124._o initio_fw-la and_o in_o the_o proposition_n and_o principle_n dispute_v in_o the_o university_n of_o geneva_n pag._n 178._o sect_n 4._o and_o by_o jacobus_n kimedoncius_n in_o his_o redemption_n of_o mankind_n l._n 2._o c._n 15._o pag._n 164._o fine_a and_o by_o m._n whitaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 8._o pag._n 682._o initio_fw-la faith_n which_o as_o the_o scripture_n witness_v 10.17_o witness_v râm_fw-la 10.17_o come_v by_o hear_v which_o infant_n can_v accomplish_v that_o parentibus_fw-la that_o so_o say_v the_o divine_n of_o geneva_n in_o the_o foresay_a proposition_n and_o principle_n dispute_v pag._n 178._o sect_n 4._o also_o oecolampadius_n in_o libro_fw-la epistolarum_fw-la oâcolampadii_fw-la &_o zuinglii_n l._n 2._o pag._n 301._o circa_fw-la med_n say_v hereof_o parentum_fw-la &_o compatrum_fw-la fides_fw-la pueros_fw-la sanctificat_fw-la and_o praetorius_n l._n de_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la pag._n 108._o say_v respectu_fw-la fidelium_fw-la parentum_fw-la infant_n fideles_fw-la habentur_fw-la etc._n etc._n credunt_fw-la igitur_fw-la infant_n sed_fw-la in_o parentibus_fw-la they_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o covenant_n of_o eternal_a life_n by_o mean_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o parent_n and_o faith_n and_o in_o the_o proposition_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 178._o &_o luther_n l._n de_fw-fr praeparatione_fw-la cordis_fw-la pro_fw-la suscipiendo_fw-la sacramento_n eucharistiae_fw-la say_v parvulus_fw-la alienae_n fidei_fw-la merito_fw-la baptizatur_fw-la &_o salvatur_fw-la and_o see_v he_o further_o tom_n 2._o the_o captiv_n babyl_n fol._n 77._o a._n fine_a and_o
m._n perkins_n in_o his_o work_n print_v 1605._o fol._n 585._o o._n post_o med_n affirm_v that_o parent_n believe_v for_o themselves_o and_o their_o child_n and_o that_o the_o child_n by_o the_o parent_n faith_n have_v title_n to_o the_o covenant_n and_o fol._n 585._o b._n initio_fw-la it_o be_v say_v that_o infant_n be_v god_n child_n not_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o birth_n but_o by_o mean_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n be_v for_o that_o cause_n to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o therefore_o the_o child_n of_o jew_n turk_n and_o such_o like_a profess_a infidel_n 150._o infidel_n in_o the_o proposition_n and_o principle_n etc._n etc._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la sect_n 8._o pag._n 179._o and_o m._n whitaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 8._o pag._n 679._o fine_a say_v infidelium_fw-la liberos_fw-la ut_fw-la turcarum_fw-la judaeorum_fw-la ethnicorum_fw-la calvinus_n meritò_fw-la &_o verè_fw-la negate_fw-la esse_fw-la baptizandos_fw-la and_o the_o like_a be_v teach_v by_o kimedoncius_n in_o his_o redemption_n of_o mankind_n l._n 2._o cap._n 15._o pag._n 167._o fine_a and_o see_v m._n d._n some_o in_o his_o defence_n against_o penry_n and_o resutation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 150._o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v as_o not_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o covenant_n by_o reason_n that_o their_o parent_n do_v not_o believe_v all_o this_o yet_o notwithstanding_o they_o profess_v baptism_n profess_v teach_v by_o m._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 623._o ante_fw-la med_n by_o m._n hooker_n in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n l._n 3._o sect_n 1._o pag._n 131._o by_o d._n some_o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 149_o &_o 150._o and_o in_o the_o foresay_a proposition_n and_o principle_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 179._o sect_n 9_o it_o be_v say_v by_o the_o divine_n of_o geneva_n we_o be_v of_o mind_n that_o the_o child_n of_o papist_n may_v be_v receive_v into_o baptism_n to_o teach_v and_o practise_v their_o baptise_v of_o infant_n bear_v of_o catholic_n or_o as_o they_o term_v popish_a parent_n not_o say_v m._n hooker_n in_o regard_n of_o supra_fw-la of_o m._n hooker_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la god_n promise_n which_o reach_v unto_o a_o thousand_o generation_n for_o by_o this_o reason_n the_o child_n of_o turk_n and_o as_o m._n hooker_n say_v ibidem_fw-la say_v m._n hooker_n ibidem_fw-la all_o the_o world_n may_v be_v baptize_v insomuch_o as_o no_o man_n be_v a_o thousand_o descent_n from_o adam_n but_o their_o say_a baptise_v of_o they_o be_v according_a to_o the_o other_o premise_n of_o their_o doctrine_n by_o themselves_o practise_v and_o hold_v good_a though_o as_o m._n d._n some_o affirm_v to_o 167._o to_o m._n some_o in_o his_o foresay_a defence_n etc._n etc._n cap._n 22._o pag._n 165_o &_o 167._o penry_n they_o be_v the_o child_n of_o popish_a west_n indian_n who_o other_o former_a ancestor_n never_o know_v the_o christian_a faith_n and_o though_o say_v he_o those_o west-indians_a 167_o west-indians_a m._n some_o ibid._n pag._n 167_o be_v baptize_v by_o popish_a shaveling_n yet_o they_o receive_v true_a baptism_n and_o be_v ingraft_v into_o christ_n and_o for_o this_o reason_n because_o there_o be_v a_o church_n in_o popery_n for_o say_v he_o etc._n he_o m._n some_o ibid._n pag._n 149._o post_n med_n and_o amandus_n polanus_fw-la in_o partit_fw-la theolog._n pag._n 305._o post_n med_n say_v hodierna_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la romana_fw-la est_fw-la adhuc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la omnium_fw-la impurissima_fw-la etc._n etc._n alicquin_n two_o qui_fw-la in_o papatu_fw-la sunt_fw-la baptizati_fw-la extra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la christi_fw-la ac_fw-la proinde_fw-la nec_fw-la baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la fuissent_fw-la baptizati_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o in_o popery_n then_o the_o infant_n of_o papist_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v in_o any_o reform_a church_n by_o which_o premise_n of_o their_o confess_a practice_n it_o appear_v first_o that_o the_o child_n of_o catholic_n or_o popish_a parent_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v second_o as_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o covenant_n of_o eternal_a life_n last_o and_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n so_o evident_o in_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o catholic_n or_o popish_a parent_n hold_v for_o available_a to_o his_o child_n and_o shall_v it_o then_o be_v think_v damnable_a to_o himself_o or_o hold_v worthy_a to_o be_v yet_o further_o persecute_v by_o our_o so_o implacable_a and_o unrelenting_a adversary_n 4._o this_o foresay_a truth_n be_v further_o prove_v by_o brereley_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 14._o say_v that_o the_o more_o sober_a and_o learned_a protestant_n who_o headstrong_a and_o inconsiderate_a zeal_n have_v not_o altogether_o blind_v for_o the_o preservation_n of_o christ_n church_n in_o be_v which_o according_a to_o mansura_fw-la to_o m._n whitaker_n against_o m._n reynolds_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o preface_n pag._n 33._o say_v we_o believe_v to_o the_o comfort_n of_o our_o soul_n that_o christ_n church_n have_v continue_v and_o never_o shall_v fail_v so_o long_o as_o the_o world_n endure_v and_o we_o account_v it_o a_o profane_a heresy_n to_o teach_v otherwise_o and_o the_o same_o be_v yet_o further_o affirm_v by_o fulk_n in_o the_o tower_n disput_fw-la with_o edm._n camp_n the_o 2._o day_n conference_n and_o also_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o belgia_n in_o the_o harmony_n of_o confession_n pag._n 321._o and_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o helvetia_n ibid._n pag._n 306._o by_o the_o confession_n of_o saxony_n ibid._n pag._n 324_o 325._o &_o 473._o insomuch_o as_o the_o divine_n of_o wittenberg_n in_o colloquio_fw-la badensi_fw-la apud_fw-la osiandrum_fw-la in_o epitome_n etc._n etc._n cent_n 16._o pag._n 1064._o ante_fw-la med_n say_v ecclesiam_fw-la inde_fw-la ab_fw-la ascensione_n usque_fw-la ad_fw-la haec_fw-la tempora_fw-la nunquam_fw-la interruptam_fw-la sed_fw-la perpetua_fw-la successione_n in_fw-la terris_fw-la permansisse_fw-la firmiter_fw-la credimus_fw-la and_o ibid._n pag._n 1065._o post_n med_n it_o be_v say_v contra_fw-la omnes_fw-la furores_fw-la satanae_n ecclesia_fw-la vera_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la usque_fw-la adventum_fw-la christi_fw-la ad_fw-la extremum_fw-la judicium_fw-la est_fw-la mansura_fw-la all_o opinion_n must_v evermore_o continue_v without_o fail_v or_o cease_v to_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o for_o any_o one_o moment_n of_o time_n do_v acknowledge_v as_o well_o that_o their_o own_o succession_n call_v and_o ministry_n be_v and_o have_v be_v for_o former_a time_n h._n time_n apud_fw-la brereley_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 6._o post_n med_n in_o the_o margin_n at_o *_o next_o before_o d._n m._n bridge_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o government_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 1276._o post_n med_n rest_v so_o whole_o upon_o the_o call_v confer_v to_o their_o protestant_a minister_n from_o and_o under_o our_o catholic_n church_n that_o say_v he_o of_o our_o catholic_n bishop_n and_o their_o call_n if_o our_o brethren_n will_v make_v they_o but_o mere_a layman_n then_o be_v neither_o they_o nor_o we_o any_o minister_n at_o all_o but_o mere_a layman_n also_o for_o who_o ordain_v we_o minister_n but_o such_o minister_n as_o be_v either_o themselves_o of_o their_o ministry_n or_o at_o least_o be_v make_v minister_n of_o those_o minister_n except_o they_o will_v say_v the_o people_n can_v make_v minister_n etc._n etc._n see_v hereof_o further_o in_o brereley_o ibid._n at_o g._n h._n preserve_v in_o and_o by_o the_o only_a succession_n and_o call_v continue_v in_o our_o catholic_n church_n as_o also_o that_o the_o true_a church_n immediate_o before_o luther_n time_n have_v its_o ordinationem_fw-la its_o luc._n osiander_n in_o epitome_n hist_o eccl._n cent_n 16._o part_n altera_fw-la pag._n 1073._o in_o fine_a say_v ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la sub_fw-la papatu_fw-la fuit_fw-la eo_fw-la tempore_fw-la quo_fw-la lutherus_n natus_fw-la est_fw-la suis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n ideoque_fw-la qui_fw-la sub_fw-la papatu_fw-la ad_fw-la ministerium_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ordinati_fw-la ut_fw-la lutherus_n &_o multi_fw-la alii_fw-la evangelici_fw-la doctores_fw-la revera_fw-la habuerunt_fw-la legitimam_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la be_v in_o our_o catholic_n church_n to_o this_o end_n m._n d._n field_n say_v med_n say_v m._n d._n field_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 3._o c._n 6._o pag._n 72._o ante_fw-la med_n where_o some_o demand_n of_o we_o where_o our_o church_n be_v before_o luther_n begin_v we_o say_v it_o be_v where_o now_o it_o be_v if_o they_o ask_v we_o which_o church_n we_o answer_v it_o be_v the_o know_v and_o apparent_a church_n in_o the_o world_n wherein_o all_o our_o ancestor_n live_v and_o dye_v wherein_o luther_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v baptize_v receive_v their_o ordinance_n and_o power_n of_o ministry_n and_o our_o other_o learned_a adversary_n do_v according_o teach_v that_o like_a as_o luther_n himself_o before_o his_o preach_n against_o the_o pope_n be_v a_o initio_fw-la a_o sleydan_n l._n 1._o initio_fw-la augustine_n friar_n and_o as_o himself_o say_v med_n say_v luther_n
as_o well_o as_o they_o therefore_o we_o catholic_n have_v the_o life_n and_o substance_n of_o religion_n pag._n 60._o in_o the_o prime_a ground_n or_o principle_n of_o christian_a religion_n we_o have_v not_o forsake_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n therefore_o he_o grant_v that_o we_o have_v the_o prime_a ground_n or_o fundamental_a article_n of_o religion_n pag._n 11._o for_o those_o catholic_n verity_n which_o she_o the_o roman_a church_n retain_v we_o yield_v she_o a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n though_o one_o of_o the_o most_o unsound_a and_o corrupt_a member_n in_o this_o sense_n the_o romanist_n may_v be_v call_v catholic_n behold_v we_o be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o we_o err_v in_o any_o one_o fundamental_a point_n by_o the_o way_n if_o the_o romanist_n may_v be_v call_v catholic_n why_o may_v not_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v term_v catholic_n and_o yet_o this_o be_v that_o argument_n which_o protestant_n be_v wont_a to_o urge_v against_o we_o and_o potter_n in_o particular_a in_o this_o very_a place_n not_o consider_v that_o he_o impugn_v himself_o while_o he_o speak_v against_o we_o not_o distinguish_v between_o universal_a as_o logician_n speak_v of_o it_o which_o signify_v one_o common_a thing_n abstract_n or_o abstract_v from_o all_o particular_n and_o catholic_n as_o it_o be_v take_v in_o true_a divinity_n for_o the_o church_n spread_v over_o the_o whole_a world_n that_o be_v all_o church_n which_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a and_o upon_o that_o vain_a conceit_n tell_v his_o unlearned_a reader_n that_o universal_a and_o particular_a be_v term_n repugnant_a and_o consequent_o one_o can_v be_v affirm_v of_o the_o other_o that_o be_v say_v i_o catholic_n can_v be_v affirm_v of_o d._n potter_n nor_o d._n potter_n say_v to_o be_v a_o catholic_n because_o a_o particular_a can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v universal_a or_o a_o universal_a pag._n 75._o to_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o some_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n there_o may_v be_v just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n want_v nothing_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n pag._n 70._o they_o the_o roman_a doctor_n confess_v that_o set_v aside_o all_o matter_n controvert_v the_o main_a positive_a truth_n wherein_o all_o agree_v be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o every_o good_a christian_a both_o for_o his_o knowledge_n and_o for_o his_o practice_n teach_v he_o what_o to_o believe_v and_o how_o to_o live_v so_o as_o he_o may_v be_v save_v his_o say_n that_o the_o roman_a doctor_n confess_v that_o set_v aside_o all_o matter_n controvert_v etc._n etc._n be_v very_o untrue_a it_o be_v manifest_a that_o catholic_n believe_v protestant_n to_o err_v damnable_o both_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o practice_v yet_o his_o word_n convince_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o we_o have_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a yea_o and_o abundant_o sufficient_a both_o for_o knowledge_n and_o practice_v for_o we_o to_o be_v save_v and_o then_o he_o discourse_v of_o the_o doctrine_n wherein_o we_o differ_v from_o protestant_n say_v pag._n 74._o if_o the_o mistaker_n will_v suppose_v his_o roman_a church_n and_o religion_n purge_v from_o these_o and_o the_o like_v confess_v excess_n and_o novelty_n he_o shall_v find_v in_o that_o which_o remain_v little_a difference_n of_o importance_n between_o we_o therefore_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la we_o believe_v all_o thing_n of_o importance_n which_o protestant_n believe_v after_o these_o word_n without_o any_o interruption_n he_o go_v forward_o and_o say_v pag._n 75._o but_o by_o this_o discourse_n the_o mistaker_n happy_o may_v believe_v his_o cause_n to_o be_v advantage_v and_o may_v reply_v if_o rome_n want_v nothing_o essential_a to_o religion_n or_o to_o a_o church_n how_o then_o can_v the_o reformer_n justify_v their_o separation_n from_o that_o church_n or_o free_v themselves_o from_o damnable_a schism_n do_v not_o this_o discourse_n prove_v and_o the_o objection_n which_o he_o raise_v from_o it_o suppose_v that_o we_o want_v nothing_o essential_a to_o religion_n otherwise_o this_o objection_n which_o he_o make_v to_o himself_o be_v clear_o impertinent_a and_o foolish_a if_o he_o can_v have_v dispatch_v all_o by_o say_v we_o err_v in_o essential_a point_n which_o have_v be_v a_o evident_a and_o more_o than_o a_o just_a cause_n to_o justify_v their_o separation_n which_o yet_o appear_v further_o by_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o say_a objection_n that_o to_o depart_v from_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o namely_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o some_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n there_o may_v be_v just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n want_v nothing_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o afterward_o in_o the_o next_o pag._n 76._o speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n he_o say_v express_o her_o communion_n we_o forsake_v not_o no_o more_o than_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereof_o we_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o member_n though_o corrupt_v and_o this_o clear_v we_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o schism_n who_o property_n it_o be_v to_o cut_v off_o from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n the_o church_n from_o which_o it_o separate_v but_o if_o she_o do_v err_v in_o any_o one_o fundamental_a point_n by_o that_o very_a error_n she_o will_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o shall_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n therefore_o she_o do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n p._n 83._o we_o be_v never_o disjoin_v from_o she_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o those_o main_a essential_a truth_n which_o give_v she_o the_o name_n and_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n you_o must_v then_o say_v that_o she_o err_v not_o in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n for_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n can_v subsist_v with_o any_o such_o error_n and_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o 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faith_n and_o to_o that_o end_n cite_v for_o catholic_n writer_n those_o two_o who_o can_v be_v no_o catholic_n as_o charity_n maintain_v part_n 1._o chap._n 3._o pag._n 104._o show_v the_o former_a in_o particular_a to_o be_v a_o plain_a heretic_n or_o rather_o atheist_n lucian-like_a jest_v at_o all_o religion_n pag._n 78._o he_o say_v we_o hope_v and_o think_v very_o well_o of_o all_o those_o holy_a and_o devout_a soul_n which_o in_o former_a age_n live_v and_o dye_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n nay_o our_o charity_n reach_v further_a to_o all_o those_o at_o this_o day_n who_o in_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n believe_v the_o roman_a religion_n and_o profess_v it_o to_o these_o word_n of_o the_o doctor_n if_o we_o subsume_v but_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o any_o can_v be_v save_v even_o by_o ignorance_n or_o any_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n if_o he_o err_v in_o a_o fundamental_a point_n because_o as_o by_o every_o such_o error_n a_o church_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o church_n so_o 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that_o many_o learned_a protestant_n do_v not_o believe_v all_o such_o doctrine_n and_o consequent_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o salvation_n pag._n 269._o n._n 45._o a_o man_n may_v possible_o leave_v some_o opinion_n or_o practice_n of_o a_o church_n former_o common_a to_o himself_o and_o other_o and_o continue_v still_o a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n provide_v that_o what_o he_o forsake_v be_v not_o one_o of_o those_o thing_n wherein_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n consist_v for_o this_o cause_n he_o say_v that_o although_o protestant_n leave_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o they_o leave_v not_o the_o church_n because_o they_o leave_v she_o not_o in_o any_o thing_n essential_a to_o a_o church_n as_o fundamental_a point_n be_v therefore_o he_o suppose_v the_o church_n before_o luther_n do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a article_n otherwise_o protestant_n have_v leave_v she_o that_o be_v they_o have_v disagree_v from_o she_o in_o a_o fundamental_a 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therefore_o he_o grant_v that_o we_o err_v not_o in_o any_o such_o necessary_a point_n pag._n 401._o n._n 26._o he_o confess_v that_o d._n potter_n say_v indeed_o that_o our_o not_o cut_v off_o your_o church_n from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o hope_v of_o salvation_n free_v we_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o schism_n pag._n 133._o n._n 12._o he_o say_v express_o by_o confession_n of_o both_o side_n we_o agree_v in_o much_o more_o than_o be_v simple_o and_o indispensable_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n it_o be_v well_o he_o make_v so_o open_a a_o confession_n that_o we_o believe_v much_o more_o than_o be_v simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o as_o i_o say_v before_o we_o will_v not_o because_o we_o can_v yield_v so_o much_o to_o protestant_n and_o here_o i_o must_v ask_v again_o how_o he_o can_v say_v pag._n 401._o n._n 27._o as_o for_o our_o free_n you_o from_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o yield_v you_o salvation_n neither_o d._n potter_n nor_o any_o other_o protestant_n be_v 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