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faithfulness_n in_o god_n house_n yea_o and_o to_o exceed_v he_o in_o perfectness_n as_o much_o as_o his_o own_o glorious_a body_n now_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n do_v excel_v that_o of_o moses_n putrify_v long_o since_o in_o the_o earth_n sect_n four_o i._n comparison_n between_o christ_n and_o moses_n in_o real_a faithfulness_n first_o moses_n by_o his_o bodily_a rite_n do_v but_o only_o prefigure_v man_n redemption_n but_o christ_n in_o his_o own_o body_n perform_v it_o in_o that_o consummatum_fw-la est_fw-la by_o his_o sacrifice_n on_o the_o crosse._n second_o moses_n have_v a_o veil_n over_o his_o face_n and_o deliver_v the_o gospel_n only_o in_o shadow_n and_o mystery_n but_o christ_n reveal_v the_o bless_a countenance_n of_o our_o gracious_a god_n unto_o we_o by_o the_o light_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n express_o publish_v our_o reconciliation_n with_o god_n by_o his_o own_o death_n three_o moses_n his_o office_n be_v principal_o to_o diwlge_v the_o law_n deliver_v in_o 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