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grief_n and_o dismay_n of_o all_o those_o that_o profess_v christian_a religion_n and_o labour_n to_o atteyne_v christian_a reformation_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 146._o 147._o 148._o you_o complain_v much_o of_o unbrother_o and_o uncharitable_a entreat_v cause_n complain_v of_o persecution_n without_o cause_n of_o you_o of_o remove_v you_o from_o your_o office_n and_o place_n sure_o in_o this_o point_n i_o must_v compare_v you_o to_o certain_a heretic_n that_o be_v in_o augustine_n time_n who_o most_o bitter_o by_o sundry_a mean_n afflict_v and_o molest_v the_o true_a minister_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o for_o all_o that_o cry_v out_o that_o they_o be_v extreme_o deal_v with_o and_o cruel_o persecute_v by_o they_o or_o else_o unto_o a_o shrewd_a and_o ungracious_a wife_n which_o beat_v her_o husband_n by_o her_o clamorous_a complaint_n make_v her_o neighbour_n tongue_n persecution_n of_o the_o tongue_n believe_v that_o her_o husband_n beat_v she_o or_o to_o he_o that_o 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a_o priest_n to_o be_v slacken_v because_o we_o be_v revile_v and_o evil_o speak_v of_o etc._n etc._n and_o again_o the_o opprobrious_a speech_n of_o the_o wicked_a ought_v not_o to_o move_v we_o so_o that_o we_o decline_v from_o the_o right_a way_n and_o the_o sure_a rule_n see_v that_o the_o apostle_n instruct_v we_o say_v if_o i_o â–ª_o shall_v please_v man_n i_o be_v not_o the_o servant_n of_o christ._n if_o the_o heat_n of_o my_o tongue_n be_v immoderate_a what_o shall_v be_v say_v of_o you_o but_o this_o kind_n of_o deal_n be_v nothing_o meet_v for_o us._n wherefore_o if_o you_o continue_v in_o this_o vain_a you_o shall_v have_v the_o best_a game_n for_o i_o t._n c._n pag._n 156._o sect._n 2._o and_o although_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a enough_o that_o he_o shall_v not_o give_v man_n leave_v to_o complain_v of_o their_o trouble_n
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much_o as_o one_o word_n of_o any_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n and_o y_fw-fr t_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o far_o you_o be_v overséene_a in_o this_o place_n you_o shall_v understand_v that_o the_o last_o emperor_n of_o who_o eusebius_n make_v any_o mention_n in_o these_o book_n be_v dioclesian_n who_o come_v to_o the_o empire_n anno._n 288._o but_o constantinople_n be_v build_v anno._n 335._o so_o that_o by_o your_o assertion_n the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n be_v confirm_v above_o 40._o year_n before_o constantinople_n be_v chap._n 7._o the._n sixth_o division_n t._n c._n page_n 42._o lin._n 2._o &_o sect._n 1_o i_o will_v add_v only_o one_o place_n which_o if_o it_o be_v more_o etc._n more_o part_v riunt_fw-la montes_fw-la etc._n etc._n bitter_a than_o the_o rest_n and_o cut_v the_o quick_a more_o near_o you_o shall_v not_o be_v angry_a with_o i_o but_o first_o with_o those_o that_o be_v the_o author_n of_o it_o and_o then_o with_o he_o that_o write_v it_o eusebius_n in_o 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