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A03125 A manifest and apparent confutation of an astrological discourse, lately published to the discomfort (without cause) of the weake and simple sort, as will by the sequel of that which foloweth, euidently appeare With a briefe prognostication, or astrologicall prediction, of the coniunction of the two superiour planets, Saturn and Iupiter: which shalbe in the year of our Lord God 1583 the 29. of Aprill, at three of the clocke in the morning. / VVritten the 25. of March by Thomas Heth, Master of Art. Heath, Thomas, astronomer. 1583 (1583) STC 13255.3; ESTC S106102 23,841 84

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they both bring forth a third as scaldyng hot water and extreme colde doe make luke warme As cōcerning the iudgemēt of the yeare 1585. it is not to bee thought that the assemblie in Aries should pul on the effect of a Coniunction that was before in Pisces a watrie signe and of a contrary Elemēt and fire water so hardly agreeing as also for that Transitus as the Astronomers tearme it is the least of all the influences Againe where as it is saied that thei whiche haue in their Natiuities the Ascendent the Sunne the two superious Planets or the Lorde of the Ascendent or Natiuitie in Aries Inprimis ad choreas caelestes inuitabuntur aliquidque noui molientur and that Germany Italy with other Countries subiect to Aries should beware of greeuous calamities chaunces and chaunges it is farre against reason to thinke that any Constellation should foreshewe generall calamities to whole Countries and particular prefermentes to priuate persons bothe beyng vnder the gouernement of one and the same signe As touchyng the continuance of the former effectes euen as the coniectures of them are very slender so is the text of Cardane very weake to this purpose Effectus durant vsque ad reditū vt pote coniūctio Saturni Iouis vsque ad aliā coniunctionē whereby his meanyng is that it should last the tearme space of 20. yeres following whereas it is recorded amōg them of no small credite in this science that the significations vpon the chaunge of a Trigon hath been sometimes deferred vntill the 3. or 4. Coniunction followyng which is a 60. or 80. yeares from the same or it take effect and hath not lasted aboue 7. or 8. yeares in effecte But to come to the comparison of this Coniunction with others heretofore The Coniunction which was in Cancer in Nouember that shewed the generall Deluge called Nohae floud had other accidents cōcurring with the same which did aggrauate the force thereof as these The Coniunction was in Cancer whiche then likewise was the signe of the greate Orbe Saturne was then lorde of the greate Orbe and was there far worse disposed then at at this present forasmuche as thē he was Tardus motu prope stationē in detrimēto aswell as Peregrine c. being so many waies lorde and gouernor of the whole and so diuersly feebled and weakened no maruell though so greate effecte did then followe suche as the world shall neuer see again neither the like cōstellation in all respectes As for the Romane Monarchie his beginning which happened after a coniunction in Scorpie but fortie yere before the beginnyng of the fierie Trigon at the leaste whiche Coniunction of it self could as then haue doen naught had there not been a little before a concourse of Orbes that hed of Aries octaui orbis beyng in longitude with Aries noni orbis and beginnyng as then to make a new reuolutiō which is Res magnaīcaelo as witnesseth Cardane Furthermore the signe of the great Orb at the same time was Aquarie which Orbe was as then newly begunne and Saturn Lord of the sayde Orbe who did by a square aspect beholde the signe of the great Orbe ex siguis se odiose intuentibus All which considered there is more cause to think that then there should follow some notable subuersion rather then now when as none of the like accidents do any way concur againe it is no reason to thinke that the watry Trygon which beganne the fourth Monarchy shoulde likewyse finish the same Quia idem non potest esse causa generationis corruptionis And as touching the cōiunction which was sixe yéeres before the blessed and happye byrth of our sauiour Christ the which Leouitius putteth in Pisces Cardane affirmeth the same to be in the thyrd degree of Aries and the fiery Trygon already begun which controuersye of theyrs béeing men excellentlye read and learned I referre to my betters to decide Lastly in the time of Carolus magnus the Trygon changing into Aries came as then into the signe of the great Orbe and Dominion of Mars And sith that by processe of time we are now come againe to the ende of the watry Trigon and beginning of the fierye it is requisite before we shal presume by Astrologicall coniecture to affirme that the ende and consumation of the world shoulde be in the yéere of our Lord 1588. We should firste consider whether there happen any chaunge of the greate Orbe or concourse of the eyght and ninth Orbe eyther els the chaunge of any Absit out of one signe into an other All which as Cardane witnesseth Sunt res magnae in Coelo If so bée that ther be any such cause concurrent then is somewhat to bee spoken thereof otherwise little to bee expected The prophesies of the sacred Scriptures firste most reuerenced and beste considered aboute the same and then the Astrogliocall coniectures compared therewithall and carefully foreseeing that we alleadge not Non causam pro causa some reasonable estimate may bee made thereof But the day and houre is vnknowne to the angels of heauen And so to return to the last notable matter by him specified which is that there shall not appeare vnto vs in our Horizon anie Eclipse of the Sun or moone this year But how greate or how notable a thing that is to be cōsidred I leaue to those that are meanely exercised in Astronomy But as touching the influence of the Eclipse of the Sunne that was in Cancer the last yeare 1582 whereof there is wonders promised we are to examine And first the cause of an Eclipse well knowne we are to consider the quantitie of the Eclipse and the continuaunce of the same Leouitius at Augusta putteth it to be the twenteth of Iune at foure of the clock fiftie thrée minuts in the morning and thrée poyntes seuen minutes darkened and continued an houre twentie two minutes Maestlin for Tubing affirmeth it to be at foure of the clock fiftie minutes and but two poynts foure minuts darkned and lasted an houre and fourtéen minutes And Stadius for Antvverp hath it at foure of the clock fourtie two minutes But not so much as one sixt part of one point darkned nor of any continuance at all but onely a touch as it were Wherfore if they which dwel in longitude thirtie degrées and haue the pole eleuated fortye eight degrées had it thrée points darkned they in longitude thirtie one degrées vnder the eleuation of fourty nine degrées had but two points darkned Likewise they that dwel in longitude twentie six degrées vnder the eleuation of fiftie one degrees sawe nothing at all How is it possible that they which are in longitude nintéene degrées vnder the eleuation of fiftie two degrées should sée any thing And for because the surreption of light is the grounde wherby to iudge of the euents I thought good to take the paines to prooue by the principles of the Art whether there were any
Cōiunction they turne the significations thereof vnto much good prosperous happe and effect as appeareth by the saied Pthol Thus writyng of the said Iupiter in the seconde Booke in his tracte de eclipsibus there inquiryng Quales futuri sunt euentus boni vel mali Thus muche affirmyng of the saied Planette Iupiter cum solus dominatur incremēta efficit cumque euentus ad homines pertinēt gloriam fertilitatem tranquillitatem pacem significat c. And no lesse signification hath the saied Iupiter and Venus and either of them in the dominion of Comettes and Meteors as witnesseth Mizaldus and others who haue written de Cometographiae and were this not so Commets and Eclipses could not at any tyme signifie and pretende good happ and effect to followe and ensue the contrarie whereof experience doeth testifie for as muche as after the appearance of the Comette in Libra the Diurnall house of Venus and vnder the beames and irradiation of the moste prosperous and beneuolent Planett Iupiter in the Natiuitie of our Sauiour there followed greate ioye peace and comforte vnto the whole worlde and what good effectes haue insued of Eclipses in particular Countries eache meane Chronographer is able to testifie If then in suche greate matters as Eclipses and Comettes the force of these Planettes bee suche vppon their dominion there I see no cause but to hope and expect the like hereafter the power and authoritie of Iupiter and Venus being no lesse in this Coniunction the one quia dominus the other quia Almutē and the same so muche the rather for that the saied Iupiter hath none eleuated aboue hym thereby to lett and inhibite his influence but is both the highest and the strongest in the figure and therefore the good effectes promised therby so muche the more as witnesseth Pthol in his seconde Booke de predictionibus Astronomicis His wordes being these Etenim beneficae stell● locis euentui obnoxijs cognatione aliqua iunctae si non superentur ab alijs contrariae sectae stellis efficatius quod policentur naturae suae bonitate absoluunt Wherefore it is requisite to shewe and declare to whom and what Countries this saied good by this Coniunction promised is especially portended for as muche as it were absurde in reason to thincke this same to bee prefigured vnto the whole or vnto these to whō the same in the Exacte tyme of the Coniunction doth not appeare For as a Comett signifieth not but vnto those to whom the same doeth first shewe and appeare or an Eclipse but vnto such as se and behold the same their reuolutions notwithstandyng about the whole within the space of foure and twentie houres the like consideration therefore of this Coniunction not without cause at this present in this behalfe accordyng to the whiche tyme and position it seemeth moste reasonable to thincke the good effectes by this Coniunction promised and presaged especially to touche suche Regions and Countreis as lye vnder the influence thereof and as haue the said Iupiter their patron and significator as also vnto those Countries that are subiect vnto the signe of the Cōiunction or signe ascendent of the same or signe wherein the Almuten of the Coniunction is as then seated and placed And for as muche as the signe wherein the Coniunction wil happen is knowne to be of the fourth and last triplicitie it hath his signification in the Countries liyng in respect of the whole Southwest and those especially of the same situate on the Sea coste and certaine Ilandes liyng in the saied point as also other Countries in the like position inuironed with many Riuers or greate waters and to discende more particularly vnto Normandy Portingall and Compestella in Spaigne and no lesse good hap promised likewise vnto the Countries lying and situate in respect of vs Southeast adioyning and bounding vppon the North Seas Quia Iupiter huius boni author significator orientalis a sole in latitudine australi ac in piscibus signo aqueo ac septentrionali And the signe Gemini wherein the Almuten of the saied Coniunction moueth somewhat confirmeth the same Habet enim signum geminorū ex regionibus Flandriam Brabantiaē c. Et quia Iupiter huius rei dominator fortis est per se erga solem in domo pauoris tristiciae meroris captiuorum ac incarceratorum sit us ac supra saturnum eiusdem domus dominum exaltatus eumque de primens exilij inopiae angustiarum luctus pauoris interitus vastitatis caritatis ac penuriae dominū ac significatorem maxime necessariorū ad victum What is hereby to be thought but that the imprisoned in the saied places to bee released the captiues set at libertie their dearth penurie turned into more abundance plentie their feare to ioy their thraldome to libertie their sorrow to comfort their long warre to sodaine and short peace the same so much the rather if other more forcible effectual causes cōcur with the same as the two eclipses héereafter following the one lighting néere vnto the degrée of the sayd coniunction the other not far from the degrée oposite to the same but the good before promised is not like presently to take effect but after certain smal tresons trecheries secret conspirasies a few like troubles before going for although Iupiter haue héerin the victorie superioritie disposing for the most part the coniūction after his own inclination disposition yet can it not be denied but the Saturne worketh therin some little and smal effect though nothing in respect of the former good far lesse then otherwise he would had he had the superioritie and supremacie therein And it may séeme somwhat strāge thus to think considering that the said Saturne is in this coniunction peregrine weake wtout dignitie as also in domo cadente a weak place of the figure wher vnto I answere which Haly Abenragell other that although he be without dignitie yet is he not voide of influēce as also that the malefici being peregrine are then readier apter to mischiefe then otherwise howbeit their force abilitie as then not answerable to their will as appeareth in the direction of an Aphaeta vnto a weake peregrine Anaraeta and although Saturne be in Cadente yet must it be considered with al that he is in domo in qua gaudet And therefore it is not anie way to be intended that the dominion and superioritie of the one can quite wholly extinguish the influence operation of the other but rather causeth it to appere mild weak féeble and verie remisse Vt rerū vmbrae potius quam res ipsae videantur that otherwise would appeare In intenciori ac summo gradu And for as much as Cardane in his first cōment vpon the second booke of Pthol his quadrupartite there speaking somewhat of the coniunction of the second superiour planets Saturne Iupiter thus saith of them Hi tamen effectus vt dictum est ab eclipsibus augentur vel minuantur vel etiā ad effectum ducuntur And therfore I will héer after whē as I haue occasiō to write of those two eclipses before mentioned diligently consider what consent or discent they haue with the same accordingly to yéeld my censure opiniō thereof knowing not what shuld moue the author of the late Astrologicall discourse without the consent of anie of the former considerations so much to ascribe vnto the said coniunction vnlesse the remembrance of the fiftie propositiō Centiloquij Ptho the words being these Ne prete●mittas centum decem nouē coniunctiones in his enim posita est vis eorum quae fiunt in mūdo generationis corruptionis The which words if hée simply vnderstand without any further respect as I am certainly perswaded of no lesse thē sée I no cause but that he may vpon the same ground take no lesse occasion to pronounce the like meruailes miracles vpon the coniūction of the two luminaries the Sunne the Moone a matter happening once euery month the same being one of the Centum decem nouem coniunctiones there specified But for that I purposed not to be ouer tedious and troublesome vnto your worship in this behalfe I wil at this present cease the further examination declaration héereof hoping that your worship will accept in good part my simple and true meaning héerin vntill such time as it may please the Almightie to indue me with a farther knowledge in this science worthie the better liking and contentation of your worship Your worships to command Thomas Heth.