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A59822 The distinction between real and nominal trinitarians examined and the doctrine of a real Trinity vindicated from the charge of Tritheism : in answer to a late Socinian pamphlet, entituled, The judgment of a disinterested person, concerning the controversie about the Blessed Trinity, depending between Dr. S--th, and Dr. Sherlock. Sherlock, William, 1641?-1707. 1696 (1696) Wing S3294; ESTC R19545 58,708 90

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