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A34888 The reply of W.C. Carter, W. (William) 1677 (1677) Wing C676E; ESTC R4126 19,955 55

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Consideration where the Nobility Gentry or Farmers would find a Market for their Commodities or find a Price answerable to them All which Particulars I have been the larger in to remove that Mistake which is almost as Distructive to the Nation as the Pestilence it Self which is that mentioned by my Opponent Viz. that the Interest of the Merchant or the Interest of the Cloathier and Artifficer is not Consistent with the Interest of the Nobility and Gentry the contrary being made sufficiently to appear My Opponents Third Argument is that Wooll was at twelve pound Per Pack in the Year 1647 when Wooll was Prohibited and that in the following Year it was sold for sixteen pound Per Pack but that Wooll ever since by reason of the said Prohibition as is pretended is fallen of its price and is now not worth above four or five pound Per Pack In which Argument there seems to be a Failure in two Respects one as if the Wooll of the Nation hath never bore any Price since the time of the Prohibition whereas it may be made appear that after the Year 1650 Wooll bore a very considerable Price from ten pound Per Pack to twenty foure Pound Per Pack according to the goodness of the said Wooll and continued so for some time which shews us another mistake in his Arguments as if the fall of the price of Wooll were wholly to be ascribed to the Prohibition of it whereas indeed there are two other causes that are very evident First From the discouragment that hath been put upon the Clothier and upon the Vent of our Woollen-Manufacture by the French Kings Arbitrary Impositions upon it to the almost utter Prohibition of it whereby now there cannot be so much wrought of it as formerly which had otherwise certainly been and then no such occasion or pretence as this would have been taken to complain of Superfluous Wooll and therefore as this cannot be denyed to be a true cause why more of our Wooll comes to be unwrought than formerly so 't is clear that those very Men that are now pleaded for by my Opponent I mean the Stealers and Transporters of Wooll about Canterbury and the places adjacent not for necessity but for filthy greediness of Gain and Lucre have highly contributed to it notwithstanding the Lawes of the Nation against it and notwithstanding the Ruine of the Nation that is Dayly Jeoperdied by it in which respect I cannot but Confess that Rumney-Marsh hath indeed Created an Interest by it self but it 's such an Interest which neither is nor hath been Consistent with the Interest of the Nation nor with the Interest of the Nobility and Gentry in General so that the said Stealers or Transporters of Wooll have been the main and principal Cause of both these Inconveniences viz both of the Loss of our Manufacture and the Loering the Price of our Wooll The other Cause of the Fall of the Price of Wooll especially of late Years hath been the Necessitating of Ireland to stock their Pasture Ground with Sheep instead of great Cattle and those of the best-Breed of England by which meanes as Wooll hath of late Years been more encreased then ever at any time before within his Majesties Dominions so the Consequence of this Extraordinary Increase and not any Fault in the Clothier or Manufacturer is that which hath not only brought down the Price but hath occasioned so great a quantity to be sent Abroad into Forreign Parts as it bears now almost as smale a Price beyond Sea as Here and therefore in this Argument my Opponent hath Assigned that for a Cause which is no Cause at all may clearly Appear because it 's matter of Fact that Wooll bore as good a Price if not a better after the said Prohibition as it did before for many Years till that breach of Commerce which was put upon us by the French King which wee before mentioned and until that Unfortunate Act for so I must Humbly crave leave to call it was made against the Importing the Irish Cattle upon supposition that it would Raise the Price of Land here in England whereas the quite contrary Effect hath been too much Experienced viz that it hath Laid such a Foundation for the Impoverishing England as will not quickly I fear be Recovered The next thing Alleged by my Oppoent is that a Limited Exportation of Wooll will be more for the Advantage of our Woollen Trade and less for that beyond the Sea than the hindring of it hath been Which Ascertion if my Opponent had Really Sufficiently and Effectually made good he might justly have Merited the Name for being the greatest Master of Reason in England And indeed seeing a Paradox more strange and more hard to be Conceived could not easily be stated I could not but expect that some Arguments more Remarkable than ordinary would Immediately have followed it but finding contrary to my Expectations nothing beyond a bare Affermation that if Strangers had a Liberty to Buy what Wooll soever they please they would Pay Dearer for it then now they do and that our Clothiers would therefore have it the Cheaper and by this Advantage would be able to under-sel the Strangers in their Manufacture I say finding litle or nothing more to be brought either by way of Reason or of Argument to maintain this Parradox I was soon convinced that it remained as uncapable to be proved as it was before and a little to evidence the Improbability of the said Consequence we shall here offer some few Reasons to the Contrary And First I crave leave to say that it 's no way likely that the Grower in any part of England should not be willing to get the utmost Price for his Wooll that he can and therefore not likely that any Grower whatsoever will sell his Wooll to the Natives of this Countrey for a less Price than he presumes he may have of Strangers And therefore not at all likely that our own Manufacturers should Buy it Cheaper than others Secondly Admiting that it should be made Unlawful for any Stranger to Buy up Wooll till such a time or season of the Year to the end that our Clothiers might first Provide themselves of what they need yet it would no way follow but Strangers may have their Agents and Factors here that may Purchase it at the same ease with the same conveniency and at the same Rates that our Clothiers are like to do nor can I perceive any thing propounded by my Opponent that would be able in the least either to Prevent it or Obviate it Thirdly And this great Omition in my Opponent I could not but take the more notice of because if no Expedient can be found out by him which I doubt there will not to prevent Strangers from giving what Commssions they please to Buy up what Quantities of Wooll soever they shall think fit here in this Countrey as I see not how or by what meanes the Exportation of our Wooll