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A00831	A very fruitfull exposition of the Commaundements by way of questions and answeres for greater plainnesse together with an application of euery one to the soule and conscience of man, profitable for all, and especially for them that (beeing not otherwise furnished) are yet desirous both to see themselues, and to deliuer to others some larger speech of euery point that is but briefly named in the shorter catechismes. By Geruase Babington.	Babington, Gervase, 1550-1610.	1583 (1583)	STC 1095; ESTC S108401	209,221	568

For be he as wise as he will in directing the Magistrate to a lawe to rule vs by we shortly after wil be vp in wit against him to shake in péeces by a shift all his indeuour Truely our heartes be dead our sinne is great the Lorde hath wrath in store if this our dealing with our parentes be not confessed and amended Thus deale we also with our ministers and spirituall fathers begetting vs to the Lorde With most vile vsage we often abuse them and if not yet in heart at least as the refuse of the worlde we estéeme them Let God be iudge or our owne soules what base and scorneful concepts we harbour of them and whether in trueth as parentes they be loued accompted of and delt withall What swelling pride in youth against the aged What vngratefull handes and heartes against our great and gainefull friendes Euerie way euerie way guiltie we are of the breache of this commaundement if wee can sée it Magistrates also and ministers euen asmuch for their great offences in their callings so that if in iustice we be repayed short shall our liues be heere on earth and in the world to come eternall death Who can say he hath doone the duties of a gouernour who can say he hath liued lawefully as an inferiour Alas we are touched all with sinne and robbed by it of all the blessing Yet sinne espied and truely loathed findes euer pardon For this cause Christ died that we should not be damned if we will be taught Thinges past be gone and the Lorde forgiue vs. Some be to come and the Lorde strengthen vs. Whether we be parentes and haue not deserued or we be children and haue not perfourmed the Lorde hath mercie if we doe amende the Lorde hath loue if our liues doe séeke it and iudgement also if perswasion profit not Life doth he promise if we kéepe this lawe and life will he giue vs as hee is GOD and true both heere and euermore The sixt Commaundement Thou shalt doe no murther Question HOw standeth the order of this commandement Ans Great wisedome hath our God shewed euen in the order of euery one and by name of this For hauing in the former established degrées amongest men some to rule and some to obey if he should not also haue set limittes for their authoritie it had bene to arme iniustice and to strengthen oppression and wrong Que. What is the equitie of this lawe Ans It is a verie iust lawe and méete to bee established and made in thrée respectes First in respect of God himselfe who louing all good preseruation of life goods credite c. and hating the contrarie fitly prouideth to worke the same in men whome he would haue holy as he is holie Secondly in respect of man for our brother is our owne flesh and wee come all of one roote and therefore wee shoulde not kill Lastlie forasmuch as the societie and traficke of man with man cannot be vnlesse life may be in safetie therefore euen in respect thereof also méete it was that the Lord should make this lawe that we should not kill Que. Is all killing of anie thing that hath life forbidden in these wordes of the lawe Ans No indéede but if we would vnderstande what notwithstanding these wordes we may doe wee must consider that all liuing things are of thrée sorts either they are plantes hearbes trées and such like or brute beastes or reasonable creatures And al these in time place and for some causes we may kill notwithstanding these wordes For the first we haue our warrants in these wordes I haue giuen you euerie hearbe bearing seede Gen. 1.29 which is vppon all the earth and euerie tree wherein is the fruit of a tree bearing seede that shall be to you for meate For the seconde Euery thing saith God that moueth and liueth shal be meate for you Gen. 9.3 as the greene hearbe I haue giuen you all thinges For the thirde and last sort both the sundrie commandementes of God in sackages of cities to put to sworde man woman and childe prooue it as also many his lawes made to that ende Que. But may anie man shed mans bloud Ans No onely they haue lawefully shedde mans bloud which haue had a calling of the Lorde to the same as the Magistrate Que. And what say you of the warriour Ans Wee must comprehende him vnder the title of a Magistrat for so indéede he is if he be thereunto appointed The calling also Luke 3. Iohn Baptist approoueth in that his spéeche vnto the souldiers whome hee doth not bidde to leaue that life but to vse it rightly which yet he would not haue aduised them if it had béene vngodly Also in the gospell Christ toucheth not the Centurion for his kinde of life Math. 8. neither Peter Cornelius who was a Captaine or yet his messenger Act. 10. which was a Souldier And I come vnto thee sayeth Dauid in the name of the Lorde and blessed be the Lorde which teacheth my hands to warre and my fingers to fight Psalm 143. Que. Is onely the actuall killing of a man forbidden Ans No but euen aswell also the ordinarie forerunners of murther to wit fighting and quarrelling For if a man cause anie blemish in his neighbour Leuit. 24.19 sayth the lawe as he hath done so shall it be doone vnto him Eie for eie tooth for tooth hande for hande foote for foote Exod. 21.24.25 burning for burning wounde for wounde stripe for stripe Whereby wee sée plainely howe the GOD of heauen alloweth that hurting and laming of our brethren in fight which a fleshly man taketh to be so lawefull so glorious and an argument of such valure in him And no doubt but this lawe of God thus executed vpon vs would quickly coole that raging heate within vs which no counsell of our friendes no consideration of necessarie circumstances as of our calling the place where we liue the charge of wife children and such like hanging vpon our safetie the lawe of man no nor the lawe of God it selfe condemning vs for it can staie or aswage Math. 5.39 Againe Resist not euill sayth the Lorde but whosoeuer shal smite thee on the right cheeke turne to him the other also That is be so farre from yéelding to the rage of thy affections which prouoke thee to strike againe that euen rather thou be cōtent to take asmuch more than to displease thy God by vngodly and forbidden reuenge And for quarrelling what a swéete and vehement perswasion is it of the Apostle against such bitter words of a boyling and boysterous heart Now therefore sayth he as the elect of God holy and beloued Colos 3.13 put on tender mercie and kindenesse humblenesse of minde meekenesse long suffering forbearing one an other and forgiuing one an other if anie man haue a quarrell to an other euen as Christ forgaue you euen so doe yee Hatefull therefore before God are as I

say the ordinarie forerunners of murther quarrelling and fighting with their fellowes whatsoeuer And assuredly if the Lorde were in vs as we thinke he is that méeke spirite of his would kill more and more that fearefull hastinesse to reuenge that is euen in al and we would learne of him Math. 11.25 for hee is meeke and lowly in heart Que. What thinke you of killing by combat Ans I must néedes thinke that the practise in a Christian common wealth being naught and vnlawfull the death that therby insues is horrible murther and condemned in this commaundement Nowe that to fight a combat in a godly state is not tollerable it may easily appeare if you weigh the causes for which it is at any time taken in hande For if they be not as it will appeare sufficient to warrant it then is it not warrantable The first cause that is alleadged for it is to trie a trueth which otherwise can not bee knowen say they But it may bee answered that the ende good doeth not by and by make the meanes good to try out a trueth is good but to try it with the hazarde of life is more than can be warranted There are manie lawefull meanes to finde out trueth by and if all those faile then is it euident that the Lorde for some cause reserueth it to himselfe for a secret and to séeke importunately and impaciently by extraordinarie meanes as a combat is to finde it out is to tempt the Lorde and euen as it were by violence to draw from him the manifestation of the which as yet he would not haue reueiled Secondly the one partie is innocent yet either of thē desireth the death of an other indifferently so the murder is in the hart of both of them which amongest Christians shoulde not be countenaunced Sometimes the combat is craued for vaine ostentation of corage strength many a Thraso thinking his glorie to stande in the chalenging of an other to vngodlinesse but this I hope no man will say to be a good cause for a Magistrate to admit of a combat Sometimes to auoyd or reuenge some great disgrace offred to a man he beggeth thus to fight But a Christian man that must make an accompt at the day of iudgement of his life giuen him from aboue must learne to estéeme more of life than honour if honour by lawefull meanes may not be kept and more of God and his commaundement than of them both Besides the profession of a Christian is to heare euill and to suffer euill though hee doe well and deserue so therefore farre should wee be from yéelding to such heates Some alleadge that it endeth strife and therefore is to be admitted but to this may serue the aunswere to the first cause alleadged for it And besides who knoweth not that howesoeuer it endeth it betwixt those two because the one of them dyeth yet layeth it the foundation of euen deadly hatred in the heartes of all their frindes seede and posteritie so that for one which is killed there starteth vp an hundred discontented heartes séeking and following all occasions of strife against their enemies Therefore in peace and at home howe a Christian Magistrate may allowe the combat wee finde no sufficient cause and warrant For the fielde yet some doe thinke it is méete and that they haue reason for it for say they when two armies are incamped in battle together if vppon causes it bee iudged fitte not to hazarde the losse of manie but to committe it to two champions either side agréeing to yéelde vppon the ouerthrowe of their man who can mislike this But we answere that as yet the combat in it selfe is not prooued good but is euill and to doe euill that good may come of it wee may not Againe in such a case as this we must consider not onely of the men and their safetie but also of the cause and his honestie The cause is certainely either good or euill either iust or iniust If it bee good and iust then is not the credite of it to bee layde vppon one man onelie to the mocking of iustice and right and if it bee euill and vniust then of a Christian Magistrate not one mannes life is to be spent in it and for it Yea but say they yet further the partie that hath the good cause is farre the weaker and not able to stande if they once ioyne all together and therefore this other way of two to trie all is good And we answere also further that this were a maruelous distrust of Gods mercie and power not tollerable in a Christian For if the cause be good and méete to be maintayned then is the cause the Lordes the men the Lordes and hee saueth not by bowe nor speare nor by the multitude of an hoste so that wee shoulde so regarde these but giueth victorie at his will to the weaker and driueth away as the winde the dust verie mightie force assembled against him and his children Therefore not euen yet doe I see a cause to beare out anie combat If there be anie corruption in menne that iustice bee not doone which sometimes also is a cause alleadged we must say as hee sayde committing our selues and our matter to GOD. Video fero spero That is I sée I suffer I trust in God And euen with a good heart be readie to beare any thing rather than by a thing whereof I haue no warrant to séeke my satisfaction Que. Why what say you then of Dauids act with Goliah Ans I say it was an extraordinary motion in the hart of Dauid wrought by the Lorde vppon the hearing of such blasphemie against God Num. 25. Exod. 32. 1. King 18. and it may not bee our imitation no more than the fact of Phinees of the Leuites or of Eliah which were all mere extraordinarie and had their warrant by such specialtie from the Lorde as that others may not looke it shall extend to them if they doe the like Que. What nowe of killing of our selues is that neuer tollerable Ans Much of this matter hath S. Augustine in his first booke of the city of God And first he reasoneth thus Chap. 1. If Iudas did euill in hanging himselfe which hee thinketh no man will denie what may warrant anie man or woman to lay violent handes vppon themselues Chap. 28. For neuer can anie fall in earth to a fowler fact or to worse estate in the eyes of God and man Secondlie saith hee the lawe saith not Thou shalt not kill thy neighbor limiting it as it were to some but indefinitelie Thou shalt not kill extending it largelie to all and therefore saith he not euen our selues may we make away Thirdlie not Iob in all his extremitie durst doe this whē as yet one pricke woulde haue finished all his woe Chap. 24. And therefore no man may kill himselfe Que. Well but yet because you name Augustine I haue heard of some causes propounded by him in