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A91190 A full reply to certaine briefe observations and anti-queries on Master Prynnes twelve questions about church-government: vvherein the frivolousnesse, falsenesse, and grosse mistakes of this anonymous answerer (ashamed of his name) and his weak grounds for independency, and separation, are modestly discovered, refelled. / By William Prynne of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1644 (1644) Wing P3966; Thomason E257_7; ESTC R210038 32,460 24

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A FVLL REPLY To certaine briefe Observations and Anti-Queries ON Master PRYNNES twelve Questions about Church-Government Wherein the Frivolousnesse Falsenesse and grosse Mistakes of this Anonymous Answerer ashamed of his Name and his weak grounds for Independency and Separation are modestly discovered refelled By William Prynne of Lincolnes Inne Esquire Socrates Scholasticus Eccles. Hist. l. 5. c. 20. Ecclesia cum semel esset divisa non una divisione acquievit sed homines ab se mutuò aversi al●er ab altero denuò scesserunt atque adeò EXIGVAM LEVICVLAMQVE OCCASIONEM nacti mutuae communionis consociationisque vincula disruperunt Mark 9. 50. Have salt in your selves and have peace one with another Iohn 18. 37. To this end was I born and for this cause come I into the world that I should beare witnesse unto the truth Gal. 4. 16. Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth LONDON Printed by F. L. for Michael Sparke Senior and are to bee sold at the Blew-Bible in Green-Arbour 1644. A full Reply to certaine briefe Observations and Anti-queries to Mr Prynnes Twelve Questions about Church-Government OF all the vanities and vexations of spirit enumerated by the royall Preacher this is one of the principall a That for all travell and every right worke a man is envied yea many times hated oppugned by his neighbour This hath been alwayes my condition heretofore and now my best actions and publike services for the common good have been misconstrued traduced nay censured in an high degree as evill by many though blessed be God approved yea gratefully accepted by the best-affected to the felicity tranquilliry of Church and State The importunity of some Reverend friends lamenting the deplorable distractions of our Church which threaten disunion and so ruine to us in these unhappy times of intestine warres prevailed so farre as to induce me to compile and publish Twelve considerable serious questions touching Church-government out of a cordial desire as much as in me lay to close up not widen our divisions Which though they have given ample satisfaction to many truely religious of all ranks and qualities who have returned me speciall thanks yet they have found very harsh entertainment from others who of Friends b are become my professed Antagonists if not enemies in print because I have told them the truth to whom I should have returned no Reply but silence there being nought in these Observations worthy answer but only to rectifie some mistakes therin and shew the opposite party those common errours whereby they deceive themselves and others The first thing this namelesse Respondent quarrels with is c For my writing by may of Quere To which I answer that I had both Presidents and Reasons for it Presidents from our Saviour himselfe who both instructed refuted convinced his opposites and auditors by demanding Questions onely Luk. 2. 46 47. Matth. 11. 1 to 20. c. 12. 3 to 13. 26. 27. 29. c. 21. 23 to 43. c. 22. 18 to 23. c. 16. 26. Presidents from Philosophers Fathers School-men and all sorts of Writers ancient modern over-tedious to recite Reasons 1. I conceived the Questions touching church-government were not rightly stated by most and that the right stating of them by way of Question would be the best and speediest meanes to decide them 2. The Independent party had neither then nor since to my knowledg dogmatically resolved or discovered in print what that church-government is they so eagerly contend for and pretend to be so plainly set down in the Word of God and therefore I conjectured such Queries to be the onely meanes to discover and refute their concealed Platforme 3. The controversies concerning church-government were then and now in agitation in the Synode and high Court of Parliament the properest Iudges of them therefore I thought it better became me in point of modesty and good manners to expresse my opinion of them by way of Question then Decision Finally I found all Independents guilty of Petitio principii in their Writings Sermons Discourses peremptorily concluding their forme of church-government to d be the onely Government instituted by Christ the ONLY WAY OF GOD which hath more of God and Christ in it then any other the Kingdome Scepter and Throne of Christ himselfe and no other way beside it e That by the beauty and perfect consonancy of this Government with the Word of God it may very reasonably yea and upon higher termes then of reason bee thought THAT IN TIME IT CANNOT BVT OVERTHROW ALL SORTS OF ECCLESIASTICALL GOVERNMENT and I feare civill too by the selfe-same-reason AND STAND VP IT SELFE IN THEIR STEAD which they close up with a Faxit Deus festinet and that writing or disputing against this Government or opposing it in any kind yea in thought is no lesse then f A FIGHTING AGAINST GOD which will bring certain ruine on our Realme in generall and all private open opposers of it yet not one of them nor this Respondent hath hitherto fully discovered to us what this WAY or Government is nor produced any one Scripture or Reason to warrant these superlative Encomiums of it but we must take all they say as Gospel upon their own bare words without examination or dispute And therefore I proposed these with 12 other subsequent Questions to them to induce them to make good these transcendent that I say not arrogant Positions touching their Way since I seriously professe before God Angels and men that I could never yet discover the least footsteps of it in Scripture or Antiquity nor defery this their Patern in the Mount which no age till ours had ever the happiness to behold if it be worth the viewing when unvailed by them to us Having thus given this Respondent the true grounds of my writing by way of Question I shall briefly answer all his materiall Observations and Anti-queries upon my twelve Questions pretermitting his Impertinencies 1. To the first Question the Respondent gives no Answer at all to the things demanded but only misrecites the Question without my limitations and then seemes to refute what himselfe propounds not I He should have demonstrated by direct Scriptures That Christ hath prescribed one set immutable forme of Government to all Christian Nations Churches in the World from which none must vary in the least degree without sinne schisme or being no true Churches of Christ with whom good Christians may with safe conscience communicate that nothing herein is or can be left free to humane prudence And then have positively delineated exactly proved the modell of this pretended Government Discipline in every particle thereof by Gospel-Texts so far as to satisfie mens erronious judgments consciences herein that so they might either submit thereto without dispute or propound their objections against the same But in this maine point whereon the hinge of the controversie turnes the Respondent is wholly silent and I shall expect his answer ad